The Bachelor 18 - Screencaps Discussion - *Spoilers*

notarose wrote:

eversotrue wrote:It's not even really about that though. It's that he doesn't even care or take into account that he hurt her...

I see your point.
 When he didn't want to kiss someone he said it was because of his daughter rather than saying "I don't want to kiss you".  What do you think he really wanted to say to Clare? Could what he really have wanted to say have been more hurtful? I think this was a catch 22 situation.
Or, as you said, maybe he doesn't care about her feelings which would mean he's just going through the motions of the show with her at this point after thinking about their relationship.

Then why take her to final 2? She was the only one dumb enough to keep accepting the roses?   

iamreal2u wrote:Wow.  Why are they doing that to him.  Personally they are building up for something that will happen at FRC…What is it? performance of a lifetime?

I'm wondering too. Why release the deleted video a few days before the finale when they could have done this right after the showing of episode 5? I think this may tie up to the video clip release of Clare about something JP said to her in private which "no woman should want to know". IMO, the production is trying to get sympathy for Clare and it's like an Andi part 2 drama.

Based on what his family says (in previews) and how he's acted this far...it's more then this show. He has issues that go further then Clare and this show.

eversotrue wrote:Based on what his family says (in previews) and how he's acted this far...it's more then this show. He has issues that go further then Clare and this show.

Andi being a lawyer and all, may have sniffed out the jerk in him. Although, me thinks she's got issues, too.

I still think more happened than Ocean Romp... like inbetween "Let's not kiss" and nighttime surf. He wants to Be As Fair As Possible with all of the ladies' TIME... and probably tells Clare in the helicopter that he had an overnight with Nikki so that she will have equal TIME. Even if nothing happened other than his continuing to talk about his need for his own bed once there are no more Private Islands. He is confusing these ladies to no end.

Probably also got spooked by Momma Lillian saying marriage is a "sacred thing" you don't play with.

That EW outtake concerns the Vietnam rose ceremony. In the blooper reel, a cluster of ladies' photos fall off the shelves. I wonder if that happened as soon as Juan discussed Ocean Romp with Harrison.

Are any of the new videos surfacing around the web? On Twitter? Have any contestants seen it? Anything? If so, please post. This is crazy.

I've only seen the headline "Bachelor Juan Pablo Galavis Broke and Living with His Parents!"

atem wrote:

notarose wrote:

eversotrue wrote:It's not even really about that though. It's that he doesn't even care or take into account that he hurt her...

I see your point.
 When he didn't want to kiss someone he said it was because of his daughter rather than saying "I don't want to kiss you".  What do you think he really wanted to say to Clare? Could what he really have wanted to say have been more hurtful? I think this was a catch 22 situation.
Or, as you said, maybe he doesn't care about her feelings which would mean he's just going through the motions of the show with her at this point after thinking about their relationship.

Then why take her to final 2?  She was the only one dumb enough to keep accepting the roses?     

Why was Sean in love with multiple women, so confused after the final dates or close too, seeing his life with both of them ( he told his family that) then riding off into the sunset a day later on an elephant with his fiancé? Because, it's a tv show and the show must go one. The Lead has to keep x number per week, has to kiss a certain number in total, and I think has to keep bachelorette candidates for as long as possible so people want to see them as the lead. Clare isn't dumb at all if she wants to be the bachelorette because she is building a following, getting oodles of airtime, and if she becomes the bachelorette will have to keep kissing someone she has lost interest in too because of the rose number and next bachelors in training.

I know I called out the girls on their display of sour grapes during the WTA, but at least they were mature enough to put aside rivalries to collectively call out JP on his reaction to and handling of the ocean incident. What is bad is bad!

iamreal2u wrote:Wow. Why are they doing that to him. Personally they are building up for something that will happen at FRC…What is it? performance of a lifetime?

I was thinking the same thing; what is their goal. The show will be over in 4 days and people will forget him whether they hate him or love him after the show. I'm thinking something is coming with the FRC and ATFR like you.

pbmax wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:Wow.  Why are they doing that to him.  Personally they are building up for something that will happen at FRC…What is it? performance of a lifetime?

I was thinking the same thing; what is their goal. The show will be over in 4 days and people will forget him whether they hate him or love him after the show. I'm thinking something is coming with the FRC and ATFR like you.

JP just reposted that Venezuela cap video again on twitter so whatever it is, he doesn't seem to give a rats a**

julychild wrote:I know I called out the girls on their display of sour grapes during the WTA, but at least they were mature enough to put aside rivalries to collectively call out JP on his reaction to and handling of the ocean incident. What is bad is bad!

C'mon... am I the only one here thinking MORE is going on between Juan and Clare?

Oops! I didn't realize I am on a *spoilers* thread.