Re: The Bachelor 18 - Screencaps Discussion - *Spoilers*

by JBF Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:20 am

Aunties_Love wrote:
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Actually according to other pics, there is the other section of beach there that he could be taking Clare to where she could await for JP, in case we have another example of the F1 girl arriving first. We don't know for sure if Clare is leaving the area after that pic was taken. Just a bunch of assumptions and conjecture.

I am not going to comment on all of the Time Stamp Business or these photos aside from this post. From a body language standpoint... THIS woman is not upset about being rejected and Chris Harrison looks like he is just humorously talking to her. If Clare is F2, then she already knows she is the Bachelorette or has a boyfriend off the show and was "playing for the cameras" just as Nikki accused Kat for doing. One of the hosts on AfterBuzz did think she resembled Jake Pavelka after all.

Doesn't matter. I am sure it is all Oh-Kay in the end.

by nutty1 Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:19 am

richmondrose wrote:
nutty1 wrote:
Mirzam wrote:
nutty1 wrote:I haven't been around too much….have you analyzed the numbers on these?

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Oh yes!!! Mostly in the non spoiler section.

So why the higher numbers in those few of Clare's?

People thought the time stamps took precedence over the thumbnail numbers.

Educate me please. Are the time stamps on the picture? What do they show? Thank you!

ETA….found them!! When you click full caption, it shows it!

by nutty1 Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:25 am

Those are extremely telling.

The pictures of Clare:
Arriving: 10:39 AM
Walking with CH: 10:50 AM
Walking away with CH: 11:24 AM

Nikki arriving: 12:13 PM

Puzzle solved…..there is your answer.

by Mirzam Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:20 pm

nutty1 wrote:Those are extremely telling.

The pictures of Clare:
Arriving: 10:39 AM
Walking with CH: 10:50 AM
Walking away with CH: 11:24 AM

Nikki arriving: 12:13 PM

Puzzle solved…..there is your answer.

Exactly, but we have some holdouts!!!! (Not that there is anything wrong with that)

by Mr Write Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:21 pm

Mr Write wrote:On the topic of the scs. Before I ran out of time yesterday, I started focusing on the caps showing Nikki and Clare crying after their LCDS (I'm fairly sure that's when they are). One explanation is that each girl was just upset about saying goodbye to JP for the last time, but what if there is another explanation? What if he had a similar, maybe even clumsy, message for each of them, that neither liked (dare I say it - that he was not feeling like he could propose). It would go along with his theme of being honest and, to say such a thing beforehand would be something new. ... I only really have one small circumstantial thing to back this up, but I figured it was worth looking. I'm also not sure the producers would allow it. Thoughts?

Sorry to quote myself, but I was wondering about this again in light of the recent video clip.
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It looks like the clumsy statement to Clare was during the helicopter ride. In addition to the scs I do have one bit of evidence that he says something clumsy to both girls - actually two if we count Nikki's statement about going ahead despite the downsides.

by jlccaz Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:27 pm

I'm thinking she has strong sense she isn't going to get picked, and decides to reject him. It fits with why disclosing the picture of Harrison walking her out is not a spoiler ... she leaves without JP, but not for the reasons everyone expects.

In the last (walk out) picture, she has a "head held high" smugness, not teary rejection carriage. She's going to be all "I made my daddy proud today. He didn't raise me to be disrespected. JP is not who I hoped he was."

JP talks dirty, gets crass? Not sure what it is that was so offensive, hope they tell us.

by Mirzam Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:32 pm

jlccaz wrote:I'm thinking she has strong sense she isn't going to get picked, and decides to reject him. It fits with why disclosing the picture of Harrison walking her out is not a spoiler ... she leaves without JP, but not for the reasons everyone expects.

In the last (walk out) picture, she has a "head held high" smugness, not teary rejection carriage. She's going to be all "I made my daddy proud today. He didn't raise me to be disrespected. JP is not who I hoped he was."

JP talks dirty, gets crass? Not sure what it is that was so offensive, hope they tell us.

But whatever was said to her in helicopter it appears she gets over it, and by the evening of her LCD she has decided that "No Better Lovers", by Josh Krajcik will be their wedding song. She would have make a 180 to reject him at the FRC.

by Mr Write Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:47 pm

I was wondering about whether Clare rejected JP too. But if she does, I'm pretty sure she does so at the podium. (there's a sc from the preview that shows her really close to it) I also think her LCD was first, which would give her some time to think about the FRC.

by jlccaz Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:48 pm

Mirzam wrote:
jlccaz wrote:I'm thinking she has strong sense she isn't going to get picked, and decides to reject him. It fits with why disclosing the picture of Harrison walking her out is not a spoiler ... she leaves without JP, but not for the reasons everyone expects.

In the last (walk out) picture, she has a "head held high" smugness, not teary rejection carriage. She's going to be all "I made my daddy proud today. He didn't raise me to be disrespected. JP is not who I hoped he was."

JP talks dirty, gets crass? Not sure what it is that was so offensive, hope they tell us.

But whatever was said to her in helicopter it appears she gets over it, and by the evening of her LCD she has decided that "No Better Lovers", by Josh Krajcik will be their wedding song. She would have make a 180 to reject him at the FRC.

Question is when did she confront him about the comment ... when did she cry on the bed. Before or after the song.

by Mirzam Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:51 pm

jlccaz wrote:
Mirzam wrote:
jlccaz wrote:I'm thinking she has strong sense she isn't going to get picked, and decides to reject him. It fits with why disclosing the picture of Harrison walking her out is not a spoiler ... she leaves without JP, but not for the reasons everyone expects.

In the last (walk out) picture, she has a "head held high" smugness, not teary rejection carriage. She's going to be all "I made my daddy proud today. He didn't raise me to be disrespected. JP is not who I hoped he was."

JP talks dirty, gets crass? Not sure what it is that was so offensive, hope they tell us.

But whatever was said to her in helicopter it appears she gets over it, and by the evening of her LCD she has decided that "No Better Lovers", by Josh Krajcik will be their wedding song. She would have make a 180 to reject him at the FRC.

Question is when did she confront him about the comment ... when did she cry on the bed. Before or after the song.

It appears from the previews they discussed the heli comment on the hill top, and that she eez ok with his explanation.

by atem Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:54 pm

What comment? Give a break down folks! Thanks!

by docnash14 Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:54 pm

Seems to me that JuanPa would prefer to be rejected than to do the rejecting due to his avoidance (or at least attempts thereof) of hurting someone's feelings (I think he even wrote in his blog that Andi's opting out helped in that he had not known the decision he was going to make come RC time). So how plausible is it that his comment to Clare - whatever it was - was intended unconsciously or not as a way to get Clare to opt out as well?

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