Desiree Hartsock & Chris Siegfried - Media - Discussion

Alanna, I am assuming you are referring to her family and upbringing.  IF Nate did talk, that says a lot.  I agree, she seems to have had it pretty rough.   Chris is the man she needs!!  

Veg-out I also agree with you about Jolly.  I remember Jason was crucified in the rag mags!  It was brutal, and I remember Molly saying at her wedding how hard it was but in the end it was worth it.

Glad that they are close by and I have a feeling they will be getting together soon.   I am sure Jason and Molly will give advice and reassurance to Chris and Des.

In Ali's blog she wondered aloud if production didn't give Des a short break for a week or so. The 2 weeks thing is confusing and she even said it during filming. Is it possible the proposal was not May 6th?

Ariela wrote:Meh, I hate when people want their 15 minutes of fame...i.e.
Nate.

Although the proposal was sudden, and Des didn't look all hot and bothered with Chris, like she did with Brooks, the more realistic love is friendship growing into love. Only Des knows what she feels.
I highly doubt that Des is desperate. I'm sure that she knew that her dating would have improved tremendously after the bette, so she didn't need to pick anyone. She could be running around Hollywood and have men chase her now that she's been on TV.

There are people you date, and there are people you marry. Many hot boyfriends end up in the recycling bin. A good man or a woman is hard to find.
No doubt that she was distracted by Brooks. He was her first date on the show and she thought they clicked. She, probably like most women, closed herself off to the others while concentrating on Brooks. That's human (most women) nature. She actually started off with Chris as friends, and liked him a lot, and probably guarded herself not to fall (so she wasn't confused, or in pain  at the end) for him because she set her eyes on Brooks, eventho Brooks was not right for her.

Once Brooks was out of the picture, she examined who she had, and IF there was something there. She knew that Drew was not it, but Chris was very close to what she wanted. She let herself fall for him in the last 2 weeks. PERIOD.

Bottom line: Des is the most compatible with Chris Astrologically, anyway. Chris Birthday is Dec 12th, Des Birthday is April 8th. Sag & Aries are an excellent match. I wouldn't be surprised that if she met Brooks and Chris at a party without pressure,  she would pick Chris. Compatibility-wise, no question it would be Chris.

Great post! Especially the bolded above.

Nate needs to have a convo with Ashley's (Rosenbaum nee Hebert) sister Chrystie...relax. It's not about you dude.

soccermom333 wrote:Alanna, I am assuming you are referring to her family and upbringing.  IF Nate did talk, that says a lot.  I agree, she seems to have had it pretty rough.   Chris is the man she needs!!  

Veg-out I also agree with you about Jolly.  I remember Jason was crucified in the rag mags!  It was brutal, and I remember Molly saying at her wedding how hard it was but in the end it was worth it.

Glad that they are close by and I have a feeling they will be getting together soon.   I am sure Jason and Molly will give advice and reassurance to Chris and Des.

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Leaving home at 18, no support from them, seeing them once a year, crazy Nate...something is off in terms of her family IMO, but she now has Chris so we got our reality tv fairy tale. I'm so happy for her!

veg_out wrote:US Weekly has a side-bar cover story about "Why Chris is the 'One'". We'll get the tabloid preview today. I don't think, though, that Nate is stating anything that the rest of us don't know if we're honest. Brooks was most likely Des' F1 until Antigua, but I think Des said it best when she said, "I was so blinded[sided] by my feelings towards Brooks that I couldn't see that the one thing I always needed was right in front of me."

Perhaps the negative press is good for these two. Jolly was torn to shreds and they made it through to marriage and a baby. It's up to Des and Chris from here on out.

I have the US Weekly issue with Des on sidebar and the article is TOTALLY 100% POSITIVE!! Here's the gist of the article, which has big picture of smiling Des and an inset of Des smiling up at Chris post proposal ...

"Why She Chose Chris"

Deserted by Brooks Forester, Hartsock Embraces Siegfried

Well, that was dramatic. After her self-professed "future husband" Brooks Forester left her in tears, Desiree Hartsock dusted off her heart and accepted a bended knee proposal from mortgage manager - and poet! - CHris Siegfried, 27 ...

"I could see the one thing I needed was right in front of me," Des

She hinted at her feelings after the Men Tell All taping July 13. Calling Siegfried "perfect," she told Us., "he never wavered."

Hartsock ... is eager to move in with him in Seattle and plans a wedding to the one she almost let get away. Says Hartsock, "It's hard, because I feel guilty. How could I not have loved him from the beginning?"

(Caption next to smiling picture of Des) ... "Hartsock and Siegfried fell in love in Munich, Germany to the sounds of Matt White's song "Love and Affection."

***

My take:
If there was dirt or something funky happening behind the scenes, Us Weekly would not be shy about telling all. As an ex JEM fan, uggh .. we dreaded Wednesdays last season as Us Weekly went after them with everything in their arsenal from Emily sleeping with Arie while in production on the fantasy dates to Jef's string of sorority girlfriends and how she was exploiting her daughter. So the fact that this is a really positive article (well, for a tabloid!) just tells me that the rawness/genuine emotions that we saw happen and what Des said happened with her recognition of feelings for Chris ... actually happened!

Alanna wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:Alanna, I am assuming you are referring to her family and upbringing.  IF Nate did talk, that says a lot.  I agree, she seems to have had it pretty rough.   Chris is the man she needs!!  

Veg-out I also agree with you about Jolly.  I remember Jason was crucified in the rag mags!  It was brutal, and I remember Molly saying at her wedding how hard it was but in the end it was worth it.

Glad that they are close by and I have a feeling they will be getting together soon.   I am sure Jason and Molly will give advice and reassurance to Chris and Des.

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Leaving home at 18, no support from them, seeing them once a year, crazy Nate...something is off in terms of her family IMO, but she now has Chris so we got our reality tv fairy tale. I'm so happy for her!

I'm wondering if she has communication with her family all the time; but, only visit them once a year. I'm trying to remember how Des' acted with her parents during Sean's Season. It's funny that I don't recall much about her mother. Did Des' mother talk much during the HTD with Sean???

soccermom333 wrote:Pia, I agree.  Take it with a grain of salt.  I would pay more attention to the things he says on his twitter page.  Recently he answered a "fan" that they would be going to Seattle soon to visit Des and Chris, and that she was happy.  

Remember these gossip mags twist and turn words around, and "piece" together if you will comments to make their story.  Example, princess Kate is on the last cover "baby number two!"  Their sources close to the couple are not really close but 7 or 8 degrees of separation.  Maybe a contestant from three seasons ago!  Ha!!  

They will continue to dig in Chris and Des's past personal lives!  This is probably the worst they can do is go after the brother!  Not sure if Nate even talked to them, but if he did, he probably should restrain himself from saying anything, or have a standard answer he gives each time.

I don't think this was discussed on the board, or I could have missed it, but not sure how close Des is to her family.  I did not see much of her conversations with Sean, but with Chris, she did mention that she only sees them once a year.  Not sure this is the right thread for this, but if anyone can answer to this, it would be interesting.  I am sure Des will hear about this from her PR person, who I noticed is based in Seattle. Des started following her before the show finished and she follows Chris and Des.  Anyway, jmo, but I bet there will be a conversation about it.  

Stay strong Des and Chris!  :Smiley:

Just wanted to add.... I know Chris and Des seem genuine and I would hope they stay focused on themselves, which I believe they are, and not worry too much about a gossip mag!

Exactly to the bolded! Nate is a dream come true for the tabloids. He is so unfiltered and just talks too much! If this is worst of it, bring it on.

Neither of Des' parents spoke much- I gather TPTB wouldn't think they're good television- Nate, the train wreck, is great television, though, so he got a lot of airtime.

And visiting once a year- heck, I'm going to guess that Des' has lots of student loans, she has not been working in a highly paid job- I think money's tight for her- and her parents don't have much, I don't think. So traveling back and forth probably wasn't in the cards. As to regular phone conversations- I don't know.

I think Des is very independent and has been for a long time.

2observe wrote:

Alanna wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:Alanna, I am assuming you are referring to her family and upbringing.  IF Nate did talk, that says a lot.  I agree, she seems to have had it pretty rough.   Chris is the man she needs!!  

Veg-out I also agree with you about Jolly.  I remember Jason was crucified in the rag mags!  It was brutal, and I remember Molly saying at her wedding how hard it was but in the end it was worth it.

Glad that they are close by and I have a feeling they will be getting together soon.   I am sure Jason and Molly will give advice and reassurance to Chris and Des.

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Leaving home at 18, no support from them, seeing them once a year, crazy Nate...something is off in terms of her family IMO, but she now has Chris so we got our reality tv fairy tale. I'm so happy for her!

I'm wondering if she has communication with her family all the time; but, only visit them once a year.  I'm trying to remember how Des' acted with her parents during Sean's Season.  It's funny that I don't recall much about her mother.  Did Des' mother talk much during the HTD with Sean???

Her parents were barely shown during Sean's HTD probably because of the Nate situation. I do recall in one of her one on one date with Sean that she mentioned that she grew up in a family without much money but that she admired her parents and that she wanted that kind of marriage her parents have. I can't remember verbatim of what she said but my impression was that she had a happy childhood but that they moved around a lot and that they didn't have much but they loved each other.

grace8136 wrote:In Ali's blog she wondered aloud if production didn't give Des a short break for a week or so. The 2 weeks thing is confusing and she even said it during filming. Is it possible the proposal was not May 6th?

It's possible IMO. 

Alanna wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:Alanna, I am assuming you are referring to her family and upbringing.  IF Nate did talk, that says a lot.  I agree, she seems to have had it pretty rough.   Chris is the man she needs!!  

Veg-out I also agree with you about Jolly.  I remember Jason was crucified in the rag mags!  It was brutal, and I remember Molly saying at her wedding how hard it was but in the end it was worth it.

Glad that they are close by and I have a feeling they will be getting together soon.   I am sure Jason and Molly will give advice and reassurance to Chris and Des.

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Leaving home at 18, no support from them, seeing them once a year, crazy Nate...something is off in terms of her family IMO, but she now has Chris so we got our reality tv fairy tale. I'm so happy for her!

She seems adopted. They are so different from her and how did the same parents raise a child like her and a child like Nate? My kids have different personalities but not to that extent.  They have the same values on how to treat others, respect, courtesy, social interaction, etc. Things you learn from your parents. Bet she will be a lot closer with Chris' family. She needs to take her cues from Chris, so that they don't raise a Nate. Her parents must not have disciplined Nate when he was growing up. They almost seem too nice to have been able to handle a child like Nate.