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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:31 pm

misticia wrote:
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misticia wrote:
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Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. :(  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
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Sorry, I do not see this happening.  If Brooks leaves and returns, I'm assuming Des would want strong confirmation of his change of heart... including him down on both knees... begging for her hand in marriage!  :-)

Actually I'm afraid that the begging will be from Des to Drew for staying. Before the Brooks return but after the Drew/Des akward LCD.
But when Brooks will return, she will send home Drew.
Here it is the dumpster fire.
Awfull. Terrible.

So you guys are assuming that when CH said dumpster fire he is referring to the second half of the finale and not the first part ?

I hope you're wrong. If Desiree tries to convince Drew or Chris to stay while telling them that Brooks is gone, and they have false hope, she'll be subjected to the WRATH of the viewers, Chris and Drew. You just don't do that.
I've been very protective of Des on this board, and don't like to see that Brooks has doubts, or leaves. I still think he'll propose to Des. I find too much "love analysis" (on Brooks" part) as a premonition of future problems to come, but if they are happy NOW, good for them. However, if Des plays with Drew's or Chris' feelings at this late stage, I will loose my respect for her and say that she and Brooks DESERVE each other (sarcastically).
Or it could be (as suits MY fantasy)...
That she begs Drew to stay. Brooks comes back and she dumps Brooks!

I hope it will be the flower garden you describe Sue (instead of the CH dumpster).
Unfortunately, CH has said that it's not going to be a flower garden for anyone... that no one gets through the finale unscathed...
As Ariela stated, if Des is unsure and keeps flip flopping, changing her mind, back and forth so late in the game, it's going to throw everyone into an emotional tailspin; lots of promises, begging, crying and walking away... and ultimately I think, again to Ariela’s point, it’s not going to reflect well on Des. Still, how it all ends, I guess we'll have to see. Deep Breath.


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Post by Ariela Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:51 pm

iamreal2u wrote:
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Rolly wrote:In case it hasn't been posted Des' twitter quote re: dating advice (discussed a few pages back):

"love and be yourself, know your worth, let him pursue, don't be desperate, confidence is key..."

was posted on 7/11. :yes:

So she couldn't have chosen Brooks....interesting.

Actually it sounds more like a lesson learnt and does not rule out Brooks at all.  She realized being desperate did not help her situation. She realized her worth and was confident in her choice at the end.  Since I believe Brooks returned and swept her off her feet her statement is a reflection.

For her sake I hope you're right, and that Brooks really means it all by himself, without the nudge from his family.

So you believe that she must have played hard to get at the end? Interesting, again.


I still don't think that love should be that hard....that you have to lose someone in order to realize what you've had, etc. I see that as torture, but that's just me.

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Post by nd4reality Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:00 pm

Ariela wrote:
Rolly wrote:In case it hasn't been posted Des' twitter quote re: dating advice (discussed a few pages back):

"love and be yourself, know your worth, let him pursue, don't be desperate, confidence is key..."

was posted on 7/11. :yes:

So she couldn't have chosen Brooks....interesting.

That is exactly what I got from reading that.

Plus her face at the MTA when CH talked about the finale.


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Post by Guest Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:01 pm

My hope (total fantasy, I know) is that we are being Fleissed with the previews and Des, the F3, CH and tptb were all in it together to film dramatic crying scenes to pull one over on the viewers. Because this season was a done deal from the start, they had to get creative to come up with a solution. We know Des likes to pull pranks. I know, I know. Silly.

But still, there was a fraction of a second during CH and Des talking at MTA when she got a look on her face of pure mischief and giddiness. She wiped it off very quickly, and got back her sad, confused look, but it didn't fit with what they were saying. An actress she is not!

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Post by nd4reality Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:03 pm

BKay wrote:My hope (total fantasy, I know) is that we are being Fleissed with the previews and Des, the F3, CH and tptb were all in it together to film dramatic crying scenes to pull one over on the viewers. Because this season was a done deal from the start, they had to get creative to come up with a solution. We know Des likes to pull pranks. I know, I know. Silly.

But still, there was a fraction of a second during CH and Des talking at MTA when she got a look on her face of pure mischief and giddiness. She wiped it off very quickly, and got back her sad, confused look, but it didn't fit with what they were saying. An actress she is not!

Mind sharing which fraction that was ? What did he say just prior ? I'm curious enough to go to re-watch.


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Post by misticia Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:18 pm

nd4reality wrote:
BKay wrote:My hope (total fantasy, I know) is that we are being Fleissed with the previews and Des, the F3, CH and tptb were all in it together to film dramatic crying scenes to pull one over on the viewers. Because this season was a done deal from the start, they had to get creative to come up with a solution. We know Des likes to pull pranks. I know, I know. Silly.

But still, there was a fraction of a second during CH and Des talking at MTA when she got a look on her face of pure mischief and giddiness. She wiped it off very quickly, and got back her sad, confused look, but it didn't fit with what they were saying. An actress she is not!

Mind sharing which fraction that was ? What did he say just prior ? I'm curious enough to go to re-watch.

Plus Des had to exit the MTA set because she got to emotional during the preview of the finale.

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Post by nutty1 Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:23 pm

New ABC preview, I didn't see it, someone told me. Says NO rose ceremony.

Just as we have thought for weeks....a cliffhanger.


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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:43 pm

misticia wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
BKay wrote:My hope (total fantasy, I know) is that we are being Fleissed with the previews and Des, the F3, CH and tptb were all in it together to film dramatic crying scenes to pull one over on the viewers. Because this season was a done deal from the start, they had to get creative to come up with a solution. We know Des likes to pull pranks. I know, I know. Silly.

But still, there was a fraction of a second during CH and Des talking at MTA when she got a look on her face of pure mischief and giddiness. She wiped it off very quickly, and got back her sad, confused look, but it didn't fit with what they were saying. An actress she is not!

Mind sharing which fraction that was ? What did he say just prior ? I'm curious enough to go to re-watch.

Plus Des had to exit the MTA set because she got to emotional during the preview of the finale.

Thanks Misticia, I didn't know that, that's interesting...
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Post by nutty1 Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:44 pm

I don't think that is why she wasn't there?? Who ever said that?


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Post by Spoil Me Again Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:45 pm

SueSt wrote:
misticia wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Ariela wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
misticia wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. :(  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
TA DAAAAA
I have no favorites among the last 3 although I do admit to being partial to Chris and Drew.  Okay have fun with this post and I'll just sit back and watch.  LOL.

Sorry, I do not see this happening.  If Brooks leaves and returns, I'm assuming Des would want strong confirmation of his change of heart... including him down on both knees... begging for her hand in marriage!  :-)

Actually I'm afraid that the begging will be from Des to Drew for staying. Before the Brooks return but after the Drew/Des akward LCD.
But when Brooks will return, she will send home Drew.
Here it is the dumpster fire.
Awfull. Terrible.

So you guys are assuming that when CH said dumpster fire he is referring to the second half of the finale and not the first part ?

I hope you're wrong. If Desiree tries to convince Drew or Chris to stay while telling them that Brooks is gone, and they have false hope, she'll be subjected to the WRATH of the viewers, Chris and Drew. You just don't do that.
I've been very protective of Des on this board, and don't like to see that Brooks has doubts, or leaves. I still think he'll propose to Des. I find too much "love analysis" (on Brooks" part) as a premonition of future problems to come, but if they are happy NOW, good for them. However, if Des plays with Drew's or Chris' feelings at this late stage, I will loose my respect for her and say that she and Brooks DESERVE each other (sarcastically).
Or it could be (as suits MY fantasy)...
That she begs Drew to stay. Brooks comes back and she dumps Brooks!

I hope it will be the flower garden you describe Sue (instead of the CH dumpster).
Unfortunately, CH has said that it's not going to be a flower garden for anyone... that no one gets through the finale unscathed... As Ariela stated, if Des is unsure and keeps flip flopping, changing her mind, back and forth so late in the game, it's going to throw everyone into an emotional tailspin; lots of promises, begging, crying and walking away...  and ultimately I think, again to Ariela’s point, it’s not going to reflect well on Des.  Still, how it all ends, I guess we'll have to see.  Deep Breath.


dumpster fire: Brooks "dumps" Des, Des "dumps" both Drew and Chris ... hence no-one gets through unscathed
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Post by pander3575 Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:47 pm

SueSt wrote:
misticia wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
BKay wrote:My hope (total fantasy, I know) is that we are being Fleissed with the previews and Des, the F3, CH and tptb were all in it together to film dramatic crying scenes to pull one over on the viewers. Because this season was a done deal from the start, they had to get creative to come up with a solution. We know Des likes to pull pranks. I know, I know. Silly.

But still, there was a fraction of a second during CH and Des talking at MTA when she got a look on her face of pure mischief and giddiness. She wiped it off very quickly, and got back her sad, confused look, but it didn't fit with what they were saying. An actress she is not!

Mind sharing which fraction that was ? What did he say just prior ? I'm curious enough to go to re-watch.

Plus Des had to exit the MTA set because she got to emotional during the preview of the finale.

Thanks Misticia, I didn't know that, that's interesting...

I don't remember the lead ever being there for the previews.
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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:47 pm

nutty1 wrote:New ABC preview, I didn't see it, someone told me. Says NO rose ceremony.

Just as we have thought for weeks....a cliffhanger.

Interesting, Nutty. I wonder what that really means ..
no rose ceremony till next episode
no rose ceremony because Brooks is gone and it's not necessary
no rose ceremony because Brooks is gone, it's not necessary, she's too upset to meet the guys
no rose ceremony because Brooks is gone, it's not necessary, she's too upset to meet the guys and she's not sure if she's going to continue...
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