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Post by nd4reality Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:27 pm

nutty1 wrote:Maybe some people feel they need to step away and clear their head. I, for one, have a spinning head, and I am thrilled I have a 3 very busy days, to force me to stay away!!

Quite right, There are only so many ways this thing can be spun. I am camping on the weekend and hopefully will not be giving this a second thought till monday.


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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:34 pm

misticia wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. :(  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
TA DAAAAA
I have no favorites among the last 3 although I do admit to being partial to Chris and Drew.  Okay have fun with this post and I'll just sit back and watch.  LOL.

Sorry, I do not see this happening.  If Brooks leaves and returns, I'm assuming Des would want strong confirmation of his change of heart... including him down on both knees... begging for her hand in marriage!  :-)

Actually I'm afraid that the begging will be from Des to Drew for staying. Before the Brooks return but after the Drew/Des akward LCD.
But when Brooks will return, she will send home Drew.
Here it is the dumpster fire.
Awfull. Terrible.
So you're thinking Des is going to beg Drew to stay only to send him home once Brooks returns???
THAT would be terrible, unthinkable, really.
I hope you're wrong! :-(
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Post by misticia Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:40 pm

SueSt wrote:
misticia wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. :(  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
TA DAAAAA
I have no favorites among the last 3 although I do admit to being partial to Chris and Drew.  Okay have fun with this post and I'll just sit back and watch.  LOL.

Sorry, I do not see this happening.  If Brooks leaves and returns, I'm assuming Des would want strong confirmation of his change of heart... including him down on both knees... begging for her hand in marriage!  :-)

Actually I'm afraid that the begging will be from Des to Drew for staying. Before the Brooks return but after the Drew/Des akward LCD.
But when Brooks will return, she will send home Drew.
Here it is the dumpster fire.
Awfull. Terrible.
So you're thinking Des is going to beg Drew to stay only to send him home once Brooks returns???
THAT would be terrible, unthinkable, really.
I hope you're wrong!  :-(

The CH words "Dumpster Fire" suggested me that plus the awfull trailer with all the worst moments in Bachelor/ette history (including Vienna/Jake break-up !).

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Post by Rolly Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:44 pm

In case it hasn't been posted Des' twitter quote re: dating advice (discussed a few pages back):

"love and be yourself, know your worth, let him pursue, don't be desperate, confidence is key..."

was posted on 7/11. :yes:
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Post by Ariela Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:53 pm

nd4reality wrote:
misticia wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. :(  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
TA DAAAAA
I have no favorites among the last 3 although I do admit to being partial to Chris and Drew.  Okay have fun with this post and I'll just sit back and watch.  LOL.

Sorry, I do not see this happening.  If Brooks leaves and returns, I'm assuming Des would want strong confirmation of his change of heart... including him down on both knees... begging for her hand in marriage!  :-)

Actually I'm afraid that the begging will be from Des to Drew for staying. Before the Brooks return but after the Drew/Des akward LCD.
But when Brooks will return, she will send home Drew.
Here it is the dumpster fire.
Awfull. Terrible.

So you guys are assuming that when CH said dumpster fire he is referring to the second half of the finale and not the first part ?

I hope you're wrong. If Desiree tries to convince Drew or Chris to stay while telling them that Brooks is gone, and they have false hope, she'll be subjected to the WRATH of the viewers, Chris and Drew. You just don't do that.
I've been very protective of Des on this board, and don't like to see that Brooks has doubts, or leaves. I still think he'll propose to Des. I find too much "love analysis" (on Brooks" part) as a premonition of future problems to come, but if they are happy NOW, good for them. However, if Des plays with Drew's or Chris' feelings at this late stage, I will loose my respect for her and say that she and Brooks DESERVE each other (sarcastically).

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Post by Ariela Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:54 pm

Rolly wrote:In case it hasn't been posted Des' twitter quote re: dating advice (discussed a few pages back):

"love and be yourself, know your worth, let him pursue, don't be desperate, confidence is key..."

was posted on 7/11. :yes:

So she couldn't have chosen Brooks....interesting.

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Post by Piper61 Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:03 pm

I don't think that means she didn't choose Brooks. By all speculations of his return, he's pursuing.

And then I'm reminded of, "Do as I say, not as I do." :shocked!: 
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Post by SueSt Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:03 pm

Ariela wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
misticia wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. :(  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
TA DAAAAA
I have no favorites among the last 3 although I do admit to being partial to Chris and Drew.  Okay have fun with this post and I'll just sit back and watch.  LOL.

Sorry, I do not see this happening.  If Brooks leaves and returns, I'm assuming Des would want strong confirmation of his change of heart... including him down on both knees... begging for her hand in marriage!  :-)

Actually I'm afraid that the begging will be from Des to Drew for staying. Before the Brooks return but after the Drew/Des akward LCD.
But when Brooks will return, she will send home Drew.
Here it is the dumpster fire.
Awfull. Terrible.

So you guys are assuming that when CH said dumpster fire he is referring to the second half of the finale and not the first part ?

I hope you're wrong. If Desiree tries to convince Drew or Chris to stay while telling them that Brooks is gone, and they have false hope, she'll be subjected to the WRATH of the viewers, Chris and Drew. You just don't do that.
I've been very protective of Des on this board, and don't like to see that Brooks has doubts, or leaves. I still think he'll propose to Des. I find too much "love analysis" (on Brooks" part) as a premonition of future problems to come, but if they are happy NOW, good for them. However, if Des plays with Drew's or Chris' feelings at this late stage, I will loose my respect for her and say that she and Brooks DESERVE each other (sarcastically).
Or it could be (as suits MY fantasy)...
That she begs Drew to stay. Brooks comes back and she dumps Brooks!
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Post by iamreal2u Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:10 pm

Ariela wrote:
Rolly wrote:In case it hasn't been posted Des' twitter quote re: dating advice (discussed a few pages back):

"love and be yourself, know your worth, let him pursue, don't be desperate, confidence is key..."

was posted on 7/11. :yes:

So she couldn't have chosen Brooks....interesting.

Actually it sounds more like a lesson learnt and does not rule out Brooks at all. She realized being desperate did not help her situation. She realized her worth and was confident in her choice at the end. Since I believe Brooks returned and swept her off her feet her statement is a reflection.
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Post by Piper61 Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:12 pm

iamreal2u wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Rolly wrote:In case it hasn't been posted Des' twitter quote re: dating advice (discussed a few pages back):

"love and be yourself, know your worth, let him pursue, don't be desperate, confidence is key..."

was posted on 7/11. :yes:

So she couldn't have chosen Brooks....interesting.

Actually it sounds more like a lesson learnt and does not rule out Brooks at all.  She realized being desperate did not help her situation. She realized her worth and was confident in her choice at the end.  Since I believe Brooks returned and swept her off her feet her statement is a reflection.
Like they say on Family Fued, good answer! Hugesmile 
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Post by misticia Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:15 pm

SueSt wrote:
Ariela wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
misticia wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. :(  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
TA DAAAAA
I have no favorites among the last 3 although I do admit to being partial to Chris and Drew.  Okay have fun with this post and I'll just sit back and watch.  LOL.

Sorry, I do not see this happening.  If Brooks leaves and returns, I'm assuming Des would want strong confirmation of his change of heart... including him down on both knees... begging for her hand in marriage!  :-)

Actually I'm afraid that the begging will be from Des to Drew for staying. Before the Brooks return but after the Drew/Des akward LCD.
But when Brooks will return, she will send home Drew.
Here it is the dumpster fire.
Awfull. Terrible.

So you guys are assuming that when CH said dumpster fire he is referring to the second half of the finale and not the first part ?

I hope you're wrong. If Desiree tries to convince Drew or Chris to stay while telling them that Brooks is gone, and they have false hope, she'll be subjected to the WRATH of the viewers, Chris and Drew. You just don't do that.
I've been very protective of Des on this board, and don't like to see that Brooks has doubts, or leaves. I still think he'll propose to Des. I find too much "love analysis" (on Brooks" part) as a premonition of future problems to come, but if they are happy NOW, good for them. However, if Des plays with Drew's or Chris' feelings at this late stage, I will loose my respect for her and say that she and Brooks DESERVE each other (sarcastically).
Or it could be (as suits MY fantasy)...
That she begs Drew to stay. Brooks comes back and she dumps Brooks!

I hope it will be the flower garden you describe Sue (instead of the CH dumpster).

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Post by 2observe Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:30 pm

BarbB222 wrote:
Cker wrote:Okay folks, after reading more threads and theories and what have you, here is my scenerio. Canyonvue hit on what I have been thinking a few pages back.  What ever Brooks says to Des, upsets her but tries to carry on with program.  I am not going to speculate about the MTP.  She has lcd's with Chris and Drew.  I really believe that Drew leaves during that date, but how it goes down remains to be seen.  He definitely is stunned. I think the VO of "I did not see this happening" goes with that shot  of him saying "I don't get it.   Blindsided. sad  Poor Drew.

FRC is Chris only, he proposes, she rejects him.  I thought for awhile that he turns her down, because he has been very aware of her attraction to Brooks. But I think it's a normal FRC rejection. :-(  Poor Chris.  
Now the aftermath.  Someone talks to her. Could be family, but most likely Chris H. They discuss the Brooks situation, similar to what he did with Jill when he convinced her to go with Ed instead of Reid(LOL I had to put that in there because he did push her that way)  So it comes down to him telling her Brooks is still there, what is she going to do about it.   She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  Still need a ring, andMTP if he didn't.
Dramatic, emotional, out of left field,  no one saw it coming, weird ending,  the Bachette proposing has never been done before.  
TA DAAAAA
I have no favorites among the last 3 although I do admit to being partial to Chris and Drew.  Okay have fun with this post and I'll just sit back and watch.  LOL.


This post was interesting because it got me thinking . Great senario. I don't savor Drew or Chris leaving/being rejected. But, again going back to Brooks thinking no one will be left comes into play. She rejects Drew because feelings tho strong just aren't mutual on the same level. Very sad goodbye.

Chris talks to Des LCD dinner. She realizes their careers paths  takes them in different directions. Yes Des said she'd move for love but when faced with that sacrifice it's not what she really wants. She chose Cali for a reason. She realizes that on the LCD night date . FRC rejection we will hear her say, I don't see our futures lining up.
I will shed tears for Chris. Be careful for Tenley. She might want to check you out. Jmo of course.


Not sure how Brooks will reenter on to the scene. But it will be in regards to Des saying, you were THE ONLY ONE keeping me here. I wonder if there will be two FRC's. They showed clip of Brad rejecting Deanna who thought she was F1. Could it be the first FRC brings only Chris and she rejects him here because it was about THE ONE? Never before only 1 shows up for FRC but not the Lead's  F1. Maybe why date of May 5th thrown out there by some. Day of 1st FRC after Chris rejected,  Des  meets up with Brooks . They talk it out and Brooks expresses his love without knowing what Des did. Cliffhanger.....


Finale part 2.... Des lets Brooks know it was all about him.  Only one was  her quest although she tried to move on when he was gone. Out of left field she takes Brooks to meet her family. They would have already met Drew and Chris in Part 1. Would be happy with any of them but senses something lacking in Des.  With Brooks they see what Des was missing and support her. It's about her happiness . Never been done before, another FRC. Only Brooks. He Proposes . Bres is born. Not sure about the Neil Lane ring selection . But either way everything is so out of the ordinary . Not sure the guys are happy? Drew and Chris F2 in part one but both rejected.

Not sure Des is happy? Thought her journey would end fruitlessly. Not sure Brooks is happy? Yah! Being manipulated to the max. ( italics mine). giggling 


Be kind . I was just musing. Praying
I really think that the bolded relates to Chris.  Brooks had left so why would she be staying around for him?  The only way it would makes sense with Brooks is if she knew that he would return.  jmo


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