Re: Episode 10 (Finale Part 1) - 7/29 - Bachelorette 9 - Thread #1

[Kashathediva]

Why is everyone ignoring the horseback ride all of a sudden?

Drew has the 1st FD and it clearly isn't horseback riding.  

I think she doesn't decide that day and waits.  That horseback ride with Drew is her deciding not to continue with him.  

I don't understand what you are saying.
I am not "ignoring" it, I just don't think in my mind it's a big deal. Just another LCD that might add doubt or his exit. That kissing scene in the bedroom--if it is not FD--that horseback riding date resolves itself. We don't know where that bedroom scene takes place in the scheme of things.
I see Chris in a limo, with a different suit from the 3RC, so I know he is of the F2. The only point of ridiculous doubt for him is the moving issue and Des has indicated in interviews this is not an issue.
The spoilers have said that Brooks is F1. So what I have to do in my own mind is prove he is or is not. Where I am is---does Brooks leave for good or is it a ruse? Does he come back in the last episode. I can not answer these questions yet.
I don't see TPTB having treated Drew in a way that indicates respect or even like(IMOAA), so unless I can see Brooks definitely GONE, I don't see a place for Drew, yet.
Just my thoughts.

[albean99]

Why is everyone ignoring the horseback ride all of a sudden?

Drew has the 1st FD and it clearly isn't horseback riding.  

I think she doesn't decide that day and waits.  That horseback ride with Drew is her deciding not to continue with him.  

 
But why would she need to take him to a secluded bay and ride horses with him to let him go? That bay is also hard to get to. Seems like a lot of trouble when she could have just gone to his room to talk to him. Looks like a LCD cut short.

Exactly. If Brooks wasn't gone then Drew may have been let go in the F3 RC but Brooks does leave. I think people are forgetting that only Drew & Chris have pics on the table at the F3 RC.  

I don't know what Brooks tells CH but you can tell Des is devastated by whatever he told her and it can't be as simple as I can't propose. She's still crying by the RC.

Obviously I was wrong about Drew's FD but the horseback riding/beach is clearly a LCD. It would make no sense to have a special date to talk to the 2 guys because they have a RC for that.

[b]

Just read the description, so Drew's date is first....interesting!  Chris' need for Des to move could be a dealbreaker for her.  But the Brooks situation makes me sad for Des.  Brooks was unsure if he wanted to continue the relationship b/f HTD, then talked about seeing them as a serious couple after the HTD, then she leaves and he's back to wondering if he really wants her.  I think his HTD was filmed last (?) so it couldn't have been that many days that passed b/f he was supposed to leave for Antigua.  If he's this unsure, its not the right time or the right person.  I know this isn't a popular thing to say on this mostly pro Brooks board.  :hidingchair     Again, I have nothing personal against Brooks, just sad for Des.  I hope this has been all spin/editing and that he really wasn't this wishy-washy with her.

[atem]

Just read the description, so Drew's date is first....interesting!  Chris' need for Des to move could be a dealbreaker for her.  But the Brooks situation makes me sad for Des.  Brooks was unsure if he wanted to continue the relationship b/f HTD, then talked about seeing them as a serious couple after the HTD, then she leaves and he's back to wondering if he really wants her.  I think his HTD was filmed last (?) so it couldn't have been that many days that passed b/f he was supposed to leave for Antigua.  If he's this unsure, its not the right time or the right person.  I know this isn't a popular thing to say on this mostly pro Brooks board.  :hidingchair     Again, I have nothing personal against Brooks, just sad for Des.  I hope this has been all spin/editing and that he really wasn't this wishy-washy with her.

Sounds more like Brooks is just insecure whenever he's away from Desiree and thus won't let himself fall all the way and propose.

[Cecilia]

Just read the description, so Drew's date is first....interesting!  Chris' need for Des to move could be a dealbreaker for her.  But the Brooks situation makes me sad for Des.  Brooks was unsure if he wanted to continue the relationship b/f HTD, then talked about seeing them as a serious couple after the HTD, then she leaves and he's back to wondering if he really wants her.  I think his HTD was filmed last (?) so it couldn't have been that many days that passed b/f he was supposed to leave for Antigua.  If he's this unsure, its not the right time or the right person.  I know this isn't a popular thing to say on this mostly pro Brooks board.  :hidingchair     Again, I have nothing personal against Brooks, just sad for Des.  I hope this has been all spin/editing and that he really wasn't this wishy-washy with her.

Sounds more like Brooks is just insecure whenever he's away from Desiree and thus won't let himself fall all the way and propose.  

I think this is correct. Even though he told his mom "the walls around my heart" were coming down. The second she leaves him, they are back up again. OR he's just not as into her as him. OR he doubts the whole "process" and "journey" which to that I say - don't go on the show!

[Soleil]

Maybe he never thought the feelings he's having could be so real? And it looks like he really has a hard time handling the process of waiting for time with her and also that there are other guys she has feelings for. I'm processing it all and it still doesn't make sense what we'll see. But I cannot believe he's leaving based on the amazing chemistry and connection that they have developed from the get go.

[luvstx]

I think the press release isn't completely truthful. They make it sound like the guys all travel with Des to Antigua. Then they say that Brooks is back in the US to talk to his sis and mom. But I'm guessing that Brooks' talk with his sis and mom is while he is in Utah for the HTD. They'll just add it in there as if it comes later. And so Brooks travels with them to Antigua but has doubts still and talks to CH. Drops his 'bombshell'. They do his FD last so as not to upset the other two FD's. Des is unhappy/confused. She tells him she can't go on with him then realizes during LCDs with the other two that she is really in love with him and will fight to make it work (I think his bombshell is that he is just not ready to propose).

[Beeleever]

I think the press release isn't completely truthful.  They make it sound like the guys all travel with Des to Antigua.  Then they say that Brooks is back in the US to talk to his sis and mom.  But I'm guessing that Brooks' talk with his sis and mom is while he is in Utah for the HTD.  They'll just add it in there as if it comes later.  And so Brooks travels with them to Antigua but has doubts still and talks to CH.  Drops his 'bombshell'.  They do his FD last so as not to upset the other two FD's.  Des is unhappy/confused.  She tells him she can't go on with him then realizes during LCDs with the other two that she is really in love with him and will fight to make it work (I think his bombshell is that he is just not ready to propose).

Agree with the bolded. They shot that talk with Brooks and his mom/sister before they left for Antigua. They are just editing it into where they feel it fits the best for Brooks' storyline.

The spoilers we have from 3 credible sources (Love, San, Sophie) say Des and Brooks are engaged and in love. If the bombshell is that he isn't ready to propose, how do we get to the spoiled ending?

[Cecilia]

I think the press release isn't completely truthful.  They make it sound like the guys all travel with Des to Antigua.  Then they say that Brooks is back in the US to talk to his sis and mom.  But I'm guessing that Brooks' talk with his sis and mom is while he is in Utah for the HTD.  They'll just add it in there as if it comes later.  And so Brooks travels with them to Antigua but has doubts still and talks to CH.  Drops his 'bombshell'.  They do his FD last so as not to upset the other two FD's.  Des is unhappy/confused.  She tells him she can't go on with him then realizes during LCDs with the other two that she is really in love with him and will fight to make it work (I think his bombshell is that he is just not ready to propose).

Agree with the bolded. They shot that talk with Brooks and his mom/sister before they left for Antigua. They are just editing it into where they feel it fits the best for Brooks' storyline.

The spoilers we have from 3 credible sources (Love, San, Sophie) say Des and Brooks are engaged and in love. If the bombshell is that he isn't ready to propose, how do we get to the spoiled ending?

No freakin' clue. This is the million dollar question.

[nd4reality]

I think the press release isn't completely truthful.  They make it sound like the guys all travel with Des to Antigua.  Then they say that Brooks is back in the US to talk to his sis and mom.  But I'm guessing that Brooks' talk with his sis and mom is while he is in Utah for the HTD.  They'll just add it in there as if it comes later.  And so Brooks travels with them to Antigua but has doubts still and talks to CH.  Drops his 'bombshell'.  They do his FD last so as not to upset the other two FD's.  Des is unhappy/confused.  She tells him she can't go on with him then realizes during LCDs with the other two that she is really in love with him and will fight to make it work (I think his bombshell is that he is just not ready to propose).

Agree with the bolded. They shot that talk with Brooks and his mom/sister before they left for Antigua. They are just editing it into where they feel it fits the best for Brooks' storyline.

The spoilers we have from 3 credible sources (Love, San, Sophie) say Des and Brooks are engaged and in love. If the bombshell is that he isn't ready to propose, how do we get to the spoiled ending?

This  

[nutty1]

After the RC after HTDs, do they normally travel the very next day to their next destination?

[DMBFan]

And I think they are playing with the wording in that press release "explosive, dramatic..." is the earthquake on April 30.

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