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Post by Love_Me Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:33 am

Doesn't the lead usually do PI's about how into their F1 they are? Whereas the contestants who aren't the F1 end up doing PI's about how they are the ones falling for the lead etc.?

That is what I have noticed.
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Post by sfrank Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:25 am

JBF wrote:Howdy! I guess there are many ways to interpret those lines... and there's no telling what lop and chop is involved.

... and it is interesting that all of Chris' scenes have HER narrating instead of him.

We are all fussy about details, details, details...

Anybody want to search youtube for past Bachelor/ette hometown "previews" to compare how the past F1s, F2s, etc. are shown? Does the lead speak over one contestant and not the others? Is there a certain sequence? Are there key hugging shots with F1 parents each season? Questions questions questions for those who like to look for patterns.

I personally think they use a kitchen sink approach with these "previews" so I don't think you can find anything really....

Sean:


Emily:


Brad 2.0 (starts at 7:00)


Ben:


Ashley: (starts 9:02)
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Post by JBF Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:26 pm

sfrank wrote:
JBF wrote:Howdy! I guess there are many ways to interpret those lines... and there's no telling what lop and chop is involved.

... and it is interesting that all of Chris' scenes have HER narrating instead of him.

We are all fussy about details, details, details...

Anybody want to search youtube for past Bachelor/ette hometown "previews" to compare how the past F1s, F2s, etc. are shown? Does the lead speak over one contestant and not the others? Is there a certain sequence? Are there key hugging shots with F1 parents each season? Questions questions questions for those who like to look for patterns.

I personally think they use a kitchen sink approach with these "previews" so I don't think you can find anything really....


Apparently "heartbroken" talk is no factor here. F1 JP and F2 Lindzi get this talk.

Sean says “Family is so big for me…” and discusses all of the ladies in general. He calls out Lindsay’s dad as important. AshLee and Catherine talk on screen, Lindsay and Desiree do not.

Desiree’s Chris and Drew get key kissing shots. She speaks about Chris during his and Drew talks during his. This fits what others are noticing... Drew is doing all of the talking in his "journey" instead of Desiree but Desiree is constantly talking about Chris (and Brooks on the main show if not this promo).

Now... in Sean's promo, Catherine gets TWO solo kissing shots with her talking... resembling Drew in one way. Then again...

AshLee’s lines are the most like Drew’s. She is really "into" Sean as much as Drew is "into" Desiree.

***************

Emily’s promo is a mess. Chris B. is the only one talking, which makes me think he’s the one she is crying about “hurting anybody”.

Chris B. = AshLee = Drew.

Like Desiree’s Chris/Drew and Sean’s Catherine, F1 Jef gets the solo kissing shot.

***************

Ben’s is like Sean’s: all about family being important and needing parental approval.

Lindzi, Nicki and Courtney talk. Kacie's parents talk FOR her.

No kissing apart from Nicki kissing her dad.

****************

Ben, JP and Constantine all talk either in voice-over or real time.

Now... in another promo for ABC, Chris is shown talking to a sibling. This means Chris, Drew AND Brooks resemble JP here talking to Ilene.

Constantine, like Brooks (before and after Nate), is the last one highlighted with the most doubt cast.

No kissing, but Ashley is discussing "us" with JP.
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Post by SueSt Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:36 pm

JBF wrote:
sfrank wrote:
JBF wrote:Howdy! I guess there are many ways to interpret those lines... and there's no telling what lop and chop is involved.

... and it is interesting that all of Chris' scenes have HER narrating instead of him.

We are all fussy about details, details, details...

Anybody want to search youtube for past Bachelor/ette hometown "previews" to compare how the past F1s, F2s, etc. are shown? Does the lead speak over one contestant and not the others? Is there a certain sequence? Are there key hugging shots with F1 parents each season? Questions questions questions for those who like to look for patterns.

I personally think they use a kitchen sink approach with these "previews" so I don't think you can find anything really....


Apparently "heartbroken" talk is no factor here. F1 JP and F2 Lindzi get this talk.

Sean says “Family is so big for me…” and discusses all of the ladies in general. He calls out Lindsay’s dad as important. AshLee and Catherine talk on screen, Lindsay and Desiree do not.

Desiree’s Chris and Drew get key kissing shots. She speaks about Chris during his and Drew talks during his. This fits what others are noticing... Drew is doing all of the talking in his "journey" instead of Desiree but Desiree is constantly talking about Chris (and Brooks on the main show if not this promo).

Now... in Sean's promo, Catherine gets TWO solo kissing shots with her talking... resembling Drew in one way. Then again...

AshLee’s lines are the most like Drew’s. She is really "into" Sean as much as Drew is "into" Desiree.

***************

Emily’s promo is a mess. Chris B. is the only one talking, which makes me think he’s the one she is crying about “hurting anybody”.

Chris B. = AshLee = Drew.

Like Desiree’s Chris/Drew and Sean’s Catherine, F1 Jef gets the solo kissing shot.

***************

Ben’s is like Sean’s: all about family being important and needing parental approval.

Lindzi, Nicki and Courtney talk. Kacie's parents talk FOR her.

No kissing apart from Nicki kissing her dad.

****************

Ben, JP and Constantine all talk either in voice-over or real time.

Now... in another promo for ABC, Chris is shown talking to a sibling. This means Chris, Drew AND Brooks resemble JP here talking to Ilene.

Constantine, like Brooks (before and after Nate), is the last one highlighted with the most doubt cast.

No kissing, but Ashley is discussing "us" with JP.

:-) WOW JBF - this is a dissertation! Very impressive and thanks for all the research. Still I'm confused, what does it all mean!! :-)
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Post by JBF Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:26 pm

Hey! Great you added Brad's too, sfrank.

We all WANT a cookie cutter pattern, but these do have a "kitchen sink" feel to them.

One curio that will drive some of us batty... the very first shot in each promo:

Brad: F3 Ashley
Ashley: F2 Ben
Ben: F4 Kacie
Emily: F2 Arie
Sean: F2 Lindsay
Des: --- Brooks
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Post by nd4reality Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:32 pm

SueSt wrote:
JBF wrote:
sfrank wrote:
JBF wrote:Howdy! I guess there are many ways to interpret those lines... and there's no telling what lop and chop is involved.

... and it is interesting that all of Chris' scenes have HER narrating instead of him.

We are all fussy about details, details, details...

Anybody want to search youtube for past Bachelor/ette hometown "previews" to compare how the past F1s, F2s, etc. are shown? Does the lead speak over one contestant and not the others? Is there a certain sequence? Are there key hugging shots with F1 parents each season? Questions questions questions for those who like to look for patterns.

I personally think they use a kitchen sink approach with these "previews" so I don't think you can find anything really....


Apparently "heartbroken" talk is no factor here. F1 JP and F2 Lindzi get this talk.

Sean says “Family is so big for me…” and discusses all of the ladies in general. He calls out Lindsay’s dad as important. AshLee and Catherine talk on screen, Lindsay and Desiree do not.

Desiree’s Chris and Drew get key kissing shots. She speaks about Chris during his and Drew talks during his. This fits what others are noticing... Drew is doing all of the talking in his "journey" instead of Desiree but Desiree is constantly talking about Chris (and Brooks on the main show if not this promo).

Now... in Sean's promo, Catherine gets TWO solo kissing shots with her talking... resembling Drew in one way. Then again...

AshLee’s lines are the most like Drew’s. She is really "into" Sean as much as Drew is "into" Desiree.

***************

Emily’s promo is a mess. Chris B. is the only one talking, which makes me think he’s the one she is crying about “hurting anybody”.

Chris B. = AshLee = Drew.

Like Desiree’s Chris/Drew and Sean’s Catherine, F1 Jef gets the solo kissing shot.

***************

Ben’s is like Sean’s: all about family being important and needing parental approval.

Lindzi, Nicki and Courtney talk. Kacie's parents talk FOR her.

No kissing apart from Nicki kissing her dad.

****************

Ben, JP and Constantine all talk either in voice-over or real time.

Now... in another promo for ABC, Chris is shown talking to a sibling. This means Chris, Drew AND Brooks resemble JP here talking to Ilene.

Constantine, like Brooks (before and after Nate), is the last one highlighted with the most doubt cast.

No kissing, but Ashley is discussing "us" with JP.

:-) WOW JBF - this is a dissertation!  Very impressive and thanks for all the research.  Still I'm confused, what does it all mean!!  :-)


I'm not JBF but I think he is showing us how as per the usual patterns of edits - Brooks is not F1 but rather Chris is ????


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Post by JBF Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:44 pm

Oh, nd4reality, you are not suggesting that I am stirring the pot again?

Anyhoo... some more to add:

Ali's season promo: first shot is F4 Kirk's hometown
Jake's: F2 Tenley
Jillian: does it matter? Ed didn't have a hometown.
Jason: F3 Jillian


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Post by nd4reality Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:46 pm

JBF wrote:Oh, nd4reality, you are not suggesting that I am stirring the pot again?

Anyhoo... some more to add:

Ali's season promo: first shot is F4 Kirk's hometown
Jake's: F2 Tenley
Jillian: does it matter? Ed didn't have a hometown.

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Post by SueSt Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:52 pm

nd4reality wrote:
SueSt wrote:
JBF wrote:
sfrank wrote:
JBF wrote:Howdy! I guess there are many ways to interpret those lines... and there's no telling what lop and chop is involved.

... and it is interesting that all of Chris' scenes have HER narrating instead of him.

We are all fussy about details, details, details...

Anybody want to search youtube for past Bachelor/ette hometown "previews" to compare how the past F1s, F2s, etc. are shown? Does the lead speak over one contestant and not the others? Is there a certain sequence? Are there key hugging shots with F1 parents each season? Questions questions questions for those who like to look for patterns.

I personally think they use a kitchen sink approach with these "previews" so I don't think you can find anything really....


Apparently "heartbroken" talk is no factor here. F1 JP and F2 Lindzi get this talk.

Sean says “Family is so big for me…” and discusses all of the ladies in general. He calls out Lindsay’s dad as important. AshLee and Catherine talk on screen, Lindsay and Desiree do not.

Desiree’s Chris and Drew get key kissing shots. She speaks about Chris during his and Drew talks during his. This fits what others are noticing... Drew is doing all of the talking in his "journey" instead of Desiree but Desiree is constantly talking about Chris (and Brooks on the main show if not this promo).

Now... in Sean's promo, Catherine gets TWO solo kissing shots with her talking... resembling Drew in one way. Then again...

AshLee’s lines are the most like Drew’s. She is really "into" Sean as much as Drew is "into" Desiree.

***************

Emily’s promo is a mess. Chris B. is the only one talking, which makes me think he’s the one she is crying about “hurting anybody”.

Chris B. = AshLee = Drew.

Like Desiree’s Chris/Drew and Sean’s Catherine, F1 Jef gets the solo kissing shot.

***************

Ben’s is like Sean’s: all about family being important and needing parental approval.

Lindzi, Nicki and Courtney talk. Kacie's parents talk FOR her.

No kissing apart from Nicki kissing her dad.

****************

Ben, JP and Constantine all talk either in voice-over or real time.

Now... in another promo for ABC, Chris is shown talking to a sibling. This means Chris, Drew AND Brooks resemble JP here talking to Ilene.

Constantine, like Brooks (before and after Nate), is the last one highlighted with the most doubt cast.

No kissing, but Ashley is discussing "us" with JP.

:-) WOW JBF - this is a dissertation!  Very impressive and thanks for all the research.  Still I'm confused, what does it all mean!!  :-)


I'm not JBF but I think he is showing us how as per the usual patterns of edits - Brooks is not F1 but rather Chris is ????

thanks ND... not sure how you deduced this... but nevermind... happy for the bottom line! :-)
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Post by JBF Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:55 pm

nd4reality wrote:
JBF wrote:Oh, nd4reality, you are not suggesting that I am stirring the pot again?

Anyhoo... some more to add:

Ali's season promo: first shot is F4 Kirk's hometown
Jake's: F2 Tenley
Jillian: does it matter? Ed didn't have a hometown.

giggling 

I can't help it. She may be at the "finishing line" with Brooks, but she is blubbering this crap!

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This gal has to make up her mind or we will never get this season over with.
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Post by nd4reality Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:18 pm

SueSt wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
SueSt wrote:
JBF wrote:
sfrank wrote:
JBF wrote:Howdy! I guess there are many ways to interpret those lines... and there's no telling what lop and chop is involved.

... and it is interesting that all of Chris' scenes have HER narrating instead of him.

We are all fussy about details, details, details...

Anybody want to search youtube for past Bachelor/ette hometown "previews" to compare how the past F1s, F2s, etc. are shown? Does the lead speak over one contestant and not the others? Is there a certain sequence? Are there key hugging shots with F1 parents each season? Questions questions questions for those who like to look for patterns.

I personally think they use a kitchen sink approach with these "previews" so I don't think you can find anything really....


Apparently "heartbroken" talk is no factor here. F1 JP and F2 Lindzi get this talk.

Sean says “Family is so big for me…” and discusses all of the ladies in general. He calls out Lindsay’s dad as important. AshLee and Catherine talk on screen, Lindsay and Desiree do not.

Desiree’s Chris and Drew get key kissing shots. She speaks about Chris during his and Drew talks during his. This fits what others are noticing... Drew is doing all of the talking in his "journey" instead of Desiree but Desiree is constantly talking about Chris (and Brooks on the main show if not this promo).

Now... in Sean's promo, Catherine gets TWO solo kissing shots with her talking... resembling Drew in one way. Then again...

AshLee’s lines are the most like Drew’s. She is really "into" Sean as much as Drew is "into" Desiree.

***************

Emily’s promo is a mess. Chris B. is the only one talking, which makes me think he’s the one she is crying about “hurting anybody”.

Chris B. = AshLee = Drew.

Like Desiree’s Chris/Drew and Sean’s Catherine, F1 Jef gets the solo kissing shot.

***************

Ben’s is like Sean’s: all about family being important and needing parental approval.

Lindzi, Nicki and Courtney talk. Kacie's parents talk FOR her.

No kissing apart from Nicki kissing her dad.

****************

Ben, JP and Constantine all talk either in voice-over or real time.

Now... in another promo for ABC, Chris is shown talking to a sibling. This means Chris, Drew AND Brooks resemble JP here talking to Ilene.

Constantine, like Brooks (before and after Nate), is the last one highlighted with the most doubt cast.

No kissing, but Ashley is discussing "us" with JP.

:-) WOW JBF - this is a dissertation!  Very impressive and thanks for all the research.  Still I'm confused, what does it all mean!!  :-)


I'm not JBF but I think he is showing us how as per the usual patterns of edits - Brooks is not F1 but rather Chris is ????

thanks ND... not sure how you deduced this... but nevermind... happy for the bottom line!  :-)

I have been on the boards with JBF for a while now. I read JBF. I don't post here too often nor always agree with what he posts but he is always an interesting read.
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Post by Muslady Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:24 pm

haha! this it true but I'm always wrong and I think I'm seeing the same thing you are.
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