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Post by anders Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:23 pm

she tends to bite the inside of he mouth/lip when she's concerned.


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Post by nutty1 Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:24 pm

Let me just say...on the very off chance that JP isn't the F1, this will be the biggest we have been punked in the history of this show!!


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Post by happyvalleygirl Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:25 pm

richlp wrote:So, in summary...

...We've established that the woman in the screencaps is definitely Ashley...


hehehe hehehe hehehe


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Post by nd4reality Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:25 pm

nutty1 wrote:Let me just say...on the very off chance that JP isn't the F1, this will be the biggest we have been punked in the history of this show!!

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As it is more than 1/2 of the folks are angry with tptb for now showing us the love story. I think this time that % will be waaay higher because they have shown us NO story !


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Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:32 pm

In the SC of her running away from the FRC site, why are we assuming she's running after someone? Maybe the F2 rejection doesn't go well -- he dumps her instead of giving her the chance, then leaves, having said his piece. She stands there for a minute trying to compose herself, can't do it, then runs off to have a good cry.

IDK, but if a F2 rejection upsets her this much, maybe she should learn a lesson from Jason's experience and think a little longer before jumping in with both feet.

There's no way she starts her 'proposal time' with her F1 telling him what a dreadful day she's had so far. That's all done. Nothing left but the proposal and the twirl with the only guy she really wants. There's something more there.


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Post by skitts Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:33 pm

anders wrote:
emusha wrote:
she wouldn't need to run after her F2 - she would be escorting him out.

there's no way this is her F1 since there's someone that comes when the sun is lower than it is in this image. the only other scenario is that her F2 walks out on her and she is running after him?

so 1. F2 walks out on her after rejecting her
or 2. F2 gets mad and storms off after she rejects him

Either way she's beat up about the whole scenario as we can see in her PI and later we see GSC walking away from the podium (well unless he walks right back to place and is pacing sideways... Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #1 - Page 55 2148147175 )

I'm not sure I get what you're saying is any different that what I said- I said she wouldn't need to run after her F2, she would escort him out - unless he dumped her. I suppose he could storm off after she rejects him. I just don't get that vibe from Ben

At this point in time, I don't get that vibe from Ben either. However what's interesting was a tweet from Ashley S. about the communication between Ben F. and other bach alumni gals (don't remember whom; Marrissa..?) about meeting up. Ash S. tweeted it was 'disrespectful' (to Ash H.) to do this while the show still aired. Is Ash S. privy to some 'negative' info about Ben F? Does she have hurt feelings for her BFF? Just some food for thought!
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Post by nutty1 Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:36 pm

Alexxxx wrote:In the SC of her running away from the FRC site, why are we assuming she's running after someone? Maybe the F2 rejection doesn't go well -- he dumps her instead of giving her the chance, then leaves, having said his piece. She stands there for a minute trying to compose herself, can't do it, then runs off to have a good cry.

IDK, but if a F2 rejection upsets her this much, maybe she should learn a lesson from Jason's experience and think a little longer before jumping in with both feet.

There's no way she starts her 'proposal time' with her F1 telling him what a dreadful day she's had so far. That's all done. Nothing left but the proposal and the twirl with the only guy she really wants. There's something more there.


I agree about running because she is sad. But maybe it is not because she is unsure of JP, maybe just because she cares so much for Ben as a person and it really hurts her to hurt him.


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"Love is everything it's cracked up to be…It really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for" - Nick
"What I felt for you was greater than a moment" - Nick
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Post by nutty1 Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:38 pm

skitts wrote:
anders wrote:
emusha wrote:
she wouldn't need to run after her F2 - she would be escorting him out.

there's no way this is her F1 since there's someone that comes when the sun is lower than it is in this image. the only other scenario is that her F2 walks out on her and she is running after him?

so 1. F2 walks out on her after rejecting her
or 2. F2 gets mad and storms off after she rejects him

Either way she's beat up about the whole scenario as we can see in her PI and later we see GSC walking away from the podium (well unless he walks right back to place and is pacing sideways... Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #1 - Page 55 2148147175 )

I'm not sure I get what you're saying is any different that what I said- I said she wouldn't need to run after her F2, she would escort him out - unless he dumped her. I suppose he could storm off after she rejects him. I just don't get that vibe from Ben

At this point in time, I don't get that vibe from Ben either. However what's interesting was a tweet from Ashley S. about the communication between Ben F. and other bach alumni gals (don't remember whom; Marrissa..?) about meeting up. Ash S. tweeted it was 'disrespectful' (to Ash H.) to do this while the show still aired. Is Ash S. privy to some 'negative' info about Ben F? Does she have hurt feelings for her BFF? Just some food for thought!

The ONLY way I would consider it at all disrespectful was if he was F1....hmmmmm.


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"God puts the right people in our lives when the timing is just right." - Jef
"Love is everything it's cracked up to be…It really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for" - Nick
"What I felt for you was greater than a moment" - Nick
"I knew I loved you right away & I didn't even know why" - Ben
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Post by twochicklets Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:38 pm

We have to figure out which screencap tells THE story. IE, in Brad ver.1 there was a screencap of him sitting all alone after all was said and done, they gave it to us and we didn't take it. In Jason's season we had the famous "Mesnick/balcony screencap, again they gave it to us. Which of this season's screencaps is telling us something? I am sure it is (or will be) right there for us.
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Post by emusha Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:39 pm

deedreamer wrote:My take on the whole thing after watching in slo mo about a dozen times is that F2 (Ben) comes and she talks to him..it looks like she is trying to pull her hand with the tatoo back from him and he is pulling it closer. Whatever happens she is distraught and the crying scenes take place. I think between then and F1 she has her makeup freshened up and that is when the earrings switch sides. GSG (JP) to me looks like he is not walking away from her but moving to the side instead of in front of her....esentially the 90 degree turn they normally take. She looks sad but I think it is more serious and tension of the moment because at the final seconds of the slo mo you can see she is just starting to break into a smile. JMO but that is what I see when I look at slo mo.

Is this the smile you're referring to? Would be good if someone can capture it in hi-def? The shots where she was visibly tearing up and holding back from crying seem to match up with the last shots of the walking/pacing GSG -- based on the sun angle on her hair in all of the shots being similar. She's still visibly more somber than her usual bubbly self too in these sc...so I have a hard time understanding how they all work together. the earlier shots of her tearing up looked genuinely being upset

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Post by Alanna Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:39 pm

Alexxxx wrote:In the SC of her running away from the FRC site, why are we assuming she's running after someone? Maybe the F2 rejection doesn't go well -- he dumps her instead of giving her the chance, then leaves, having said his piece. She stands there for a minute trying to compose herself, can't do it, then runs off to have a good cry.

IDK, but if a F2 rejection upsets her this much, maybe she should learn a lesson from Jason's experience and think a little longer before jumping in with both feet.

There's no way she starts her 'proposal time' with her F1 telling him what a dreadful day she's had so far. That's all done. Nothing left but the proposal and the twirl with the only guy she really wants. There's something more there.


Ashley is a sensitive people pleaser. If Ben said something hurtful or upsetting, or he was just crushed himself, then she'll have a strong reaction and it has nothing to do with being conflicted about which man she wants. I'm guessing she'll be frazzled until JP arrives (on a white stallion) and comforts her like always before the proposal.


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Post by Guest Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:40 pm

nutty1 wrote:
Alexxxx wrote:In the SC of her running away from the FRC site, why are we assuming she's running after someone? Maybe the F2 rejection doesn't go well -- he dumps her instead of giving her the chance, then leaves, having said his piece. She stands there for a minute trying to compose herself, can't do it, then runs off to have a good cry.

IDK, but if a F2 rejection upsets her this much, maybe she should learn a lesson from Jason's experience and think a little longer before jumping in with both feet.

There's no way she starts her 'proposal time' with her F1 telling him what a dreadful day she's had so far. That's all done. Nothing left but the proposal and the twirl with the only guy she really wants. There's something more there.


I agree about running because she is sad. But maybe it is not because she is unsure of JP, maybe just because she cares so much for Ben as a person and it really hurts her to hurt him.

Maybe. What's all the upset with GSG about then? He's not ready to get engaged? That's way more than an initial pensive look that goes away quickly.

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