The Bachelor 18 Spoilers/Speculation - Media - Discussion

Mirzam wrote:

jlccaz wrote:The main difference is that Clare's took place in New Zealand?? Or did he play that song twice, in two different hotel rooms/countries?

Josh Krajcik sang the song during a mini concert on their first 1 on 1 date. JP then played it on their 2nd 1 on 1, during the evening portion. Third time was during Clare's LCD.

chloep wrote:^^ I do feel this actually makes him look bad. If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.

Exactly, no wonder Clare looked confident and giddy! That's just cruel....

stuckinsc wrote:Clare's song has the lyrics, I never want to be without you and he didn't look to upset when Clare said it could be their wedding song.

To me this is another leak to make him look bad. Unlike others, I do feel this actually makes him look bad. If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.

Truthfully, I still like JPG, but I am ready for this to end.

pbmax wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:Clare's song has the lyrics, I never want to be without you and he didn't look to upset when Clare said it could be their wedding song.

To me this is another leak to make him look bad.  Unlike others, I do feel this actually makes him look bad.  If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.  

Truthfully, I still like JPG, but I am ready for this to end.

The way I see it, is TPTB are pushing him to feed these women a line and he doesn't want to do it so he uses the songs. The lie won't be coming out of his mouth. I don't see it being any worst than saying you're in love with two women. Nikki acknowledges even with the song he could still not choose her.

jcrbil wrote:

pbmax wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:Clare's song has the lyrics, I never want to be without you and he didn't look to upset when Clare said it could be their wedding song.

To me this is another leak to make him look bad.  Unlike others, I do feel this actually makes him look bad.  If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.  

Truthfully, I still like JPG, but I am ready for this to end.

The way I see it, is TPTB are pushing him to feed these women a line and he doesn't want to do it so he uses the songs. The lie won't be coming out of his mouth. I don't see it being any worst than saying you're in love with two women. Nikki acknowledges even with the song he could still not choose her.

One of the things the producers do in the ITMs, especially late, is introduce doubt- especially to F1- to get some dramatic moments. At the same time, F2 is continually encouraged to think she is "the one" to get the major letdown at the FRC. So I believe that to get Nikki to say "a****le" they have just asked her, "what if Juan Pablo doesn't choose you?" That's the thing... we never see the questions they are asked when they give the ITM.

jcrbil wrote:

pbmax wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:Clare's song has the lyrics, I never want to be without you and he didn't look to upset when Clare said it could be their wedding song.

To me this is another leak to make him look bad.  Unlike others, I do feel this actually makes him look bad.  If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.  

Truthfully, I still like JPG, but I am ready for this to end.

The way I see it, is TPTB are pushing him to feed these women a line and he doesn't want to do it so he uses the songs. The lie won't be coming out of his mouth. I don't see it being any worst than saying you're in love with two women. Nikki acknowledges even with the song he could still not choose her.

One of the things the producers do in the ITMs, especially late, is introduce doubt- especially to F1- to get some dramatic moments.  At the same time, F2 is continually encouraged to think she is "the one" to get the major letdown at the FRC.  So I believe that to get Nikki to say "a****le" they have just asked her, "what if Juan Pablo doesn't choose you?"  That's the thing... we never see the questions they are asked when they give the ITM.

stuckinsc wrote:

jcrbil wrote:

pbmax wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:Clare's song has the lyrics, I never want to be without you and he didn't look to upset when Clare said it could be their wedding song.

To me this is another leak to make him look bad.  Unlike others, I do feel this actually makes him look bad.  If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.  

Truthfully, I still like JPG, but I am ready for this to end.

The way I see it, is TPTB are pushing him to feed these women a line and he doesn't want to do it so he uses the songs. The lie won't be coming out of his mouth. I don't see it being any worst than saying you're in love with two women. Nikki acknowledges even with the song he could still not choose her.

One of the things the producers do in the ITMs, especially late, is introduce doubt- especially to F1- to get some dramatic moments.  At the same time, F2 is continually encouraged to think she is "the one" to get the major letdown at the FRC.  So I believe that to get Nikki to say "a****le" they have just asked her, "what if Juan Pablo doesn't choose you?"  That's the thing... we never see the questions they are asked when they give the ITM.

I still like JPG, I like that he wasn't willing to play their game.  To me playing them both a love song that basically says he loves them and wants to be with them is an error in judgement.  Yes other leads have done it, I don't like it when they do it either.  I have made fun of the fact how romantic it is to hear your fiance say he loves someone else the day he proposes to you.  To me this makes him like the others.  I kind of liked all the times he refused to be like the others and play the TPTB game.

notarose wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

jcrbil wrote:

pbmax wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:Clare's song has the lyrics, I never want to be without you and he didn't look to upset when Clare said it could be their wedding song.

To me this is another leak to make him look bad.  Unlike others, I do feel this actually makes him look bad.  If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.  

Truthfully, I still like JPG, but I am ready for this to end.

The way I see it, is TPTB are pushing him to feed these women a line and he doesn't want to do it so he uses the songs. The lie won't be coming out of his mouth. I don't see it being any worst than saying you're in love with two women. Nikki acknowledges even with the song he could still not choose her.

One of the things the producers do in the ITMs, especially late, is introduce doubt- especially to F1- to get some dramatic moments.  At the same time, F2 is continually encouraged to think she is "the one" to get the major letdown at the FRC.  So I believe that to get Nikki to say "a****le" they have just asked her, "what if Juan Pablo doesn't choose you?"  That's the thing... we never see the questions they are asked when they give the ITM.

I still like JPG, I like that he wasn't willing to play their game.  To me playing them both a love song that basically says he loves them and wants to be with them is an error in judgement.  Yes other leads have done it, I don't like it when they do it either.  I have made fun of the fact how romantic it is to hear your fiance say he loves someone else the day he proposes to you.  To me this makes him like the others.  I kind of liked all the times he refused to be like the others and play the TPTB game.

One difference here:
Clare's song was chosen by TPTB because they hired the musician for the first 1-1 date
Nikki's song was chosen by JP

Mirzam wrote:

notarose wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

jcrbil wrote:

pbmax wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:Clare's song has the lyrics, I never want to be without you and he didn't look to upset when Clare said it could be their wedding song.

To me this is another leak to make him look bad.  Unlike others, I do feel this actually makes him look bad.  If I were either woman, I would interpret that as me being the one.  

Truthfully, I still like JPG, but I am ready for this to end.

The way I see it, is TPTB are pushing him to feed these women a line and he doesn't want to do it so he uses the songs. The lie won't be coming out of his mouth. I don't see it being any worst than saying you're in love with two women. Nikki acknowledges even with the song he could still not choose her.

One of the things the producers do in the ITMs, especially late, is introduce doubt- especially to F1- to get some dramatic moments.  At the same time, F2 is continually encouraged to think she is "the one" to get the major letdown at the FRC.  So I believe that to get Nikki to say "a****le" they have just asked her, "what if Juan Pablo doesn't choose you?"  That's the thing... we never see the questions they are asked when they give the ITM.

I still like JPG, I like that he wasn't willing to play their game.  To me playing them both a love song that basically says he loves them and wants to be with them is an error in judgement.  Yes other leads have done it, I don't like it when they do it either.  I have made fun of the fact how romantic it is to hear your fiance say he loves someone else the day he proposes to you.  To me this makes him like the others.  I kind of liked all the times he refused to be like the others and play the TPTB game.

One difference here:
Clare's song was chosen by TPTB because they hired the musician for the first 1-1 date
Nikki's song was chosen by JP

It sounds like it was sung by JP also!!!!

richmondrose wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:Anyone knows who is singing the song.  There are a few versions but cannot find this one?

I know I'm dating myself here, but it sounded like the guy who sang Tiptoe through the tulips  ...  Cute but not terribly romantic.

I know that TB is not supposed to reveal his true feelings for his chosen one until the FRC, but I was wondering why it's ok for him to sing it rather than say it using his own words. I was also waiting for them to kiss and embrace at the end, like with Clare ....  and all I got  was Nikki calling him an  "***hole". Awkward!

2observe wrote:

richmondrose wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:Anyone knows who is singing the song.  There are a few versions but cannot find this one?

I know I'm dating myself here, but it sounded like the guy who sang Tiptoe through the tulips  ...  Cute but not terribly romantic.

I know that TB is not supposed to reveal his true feelings for his chosen one until the FRC, but I was wondering why it's ok for him to sing it rather than say it using his own words. I was also waiting for them to kiss and embrace at the end, like with Clare ....  and all I got  was Nikki calling him an  "***hole". Awkward!

Are you talking about Tiny Tim????  Now did I just date myself too???