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Post by bilolo Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:22 pm

i hope your source is wrong because i love Jash and don't want to see them in a bad mood, i believe all will be fine and they'll be engaged at the end
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Post by ironcat Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:23 pm

Coastal wrote:
ironcat wrote:
skitts wrote:If JP was clearly upset over Ben's overnight two epi's ago, do you think he will come right out ask Ash about the FSD with Ben? They will show JP's date last, but of course filming may not have been in that order. I'm very curious if this will be addressed by JP...thoughts?

Assuming that JP knew nothing of how this show worked prior, and would be hearing for the first time about the FS option when Ashley gives him the card, I'd be surprised if he didn't ask her how she handled this with the other guys, but I'm almost sure that he waited until they were alone with no cameras, and she probably told him that Dino already left, and that she and Ben just talked all night.

It's possible though, that in an attempt to prolong the "JP jealousy" storyline, he'll be prompted to bring it up on camera, and Ashley will have to tell him on camera that he needs to deal with it; then, once they're alone, she'll reassure him that nothing happened with the other guys.
I have a hard time believing that JP will be able to "deal" with it, no matter how it is presented. I think that his jealousy will be a major stumbling block for them and one that might not be overcome, hence the source of mine saying that things will continue to go downhill for her and JP and will go better for Ash and Ben........kind of how Chantal's edit went through Brad's season, JP is following that edit very well. Chantal was very upset the last epi before hometowns.......kind of how JP acted.

JP's own commentary on last episode indicates that he didn't have any more bouts of jealousy over the course of the show, so I think I'll believe him over your sources, thanks!

BTW, since reason now claims that her source has told her Ben is not F1, anything new on your end?

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:26 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
ironcat wrote:
Bloomers wrote:One of the interesting things here is the discussion of JP's jealousy. I noticed on JP's commentary of his HT date, when he was talking to his brother, he (maybe tongue -in cheek, but nevertheless) mentioned his mood as a "jealous rage". He himself recognizes in himself this tendency toward jealousy and posessiveness.
And, yes, although they aren't in a dating around the other guys situation, it has to occur to him that she is in a situation where she is spending the night with 2 other guys.
And, last, I do think he got the last date. I do think the producers set it up just that way. They are trying to provoke that jealousy in him like they did Chantal for the effect of drama. If he is to do "clean-up" after Ryan and Dino that just adds to it, but JP won't forget in the back of his mind that he also came after Ben. He will be wondering about that.

Bloomers, I really suspected that he specifically used the term "jealous rage" as a joke, because it probably got back to him (or Ash told him) that there was buzz out there that he had an anger management problem, or a tendency to get into "jealous rages". Honestly, IMO, this is probably so far off the mark with regards to how this guy lives his life that he made that comment in total self deprecation. Because if he really had a history of temper problems, I doubt he would even joke about it. Brad sure didn't.

I thought he was just poking at himself too, and it was obvious he's been hearing what some may think of him. Also when he mentioned, "dare I say.....Bentley." The was he brought that up showed that he was keeping up with public perception of the show. yes

You mean what the other guys were thinking of him.........surely you aren't talking about the general public's opinion out there cause that doesn't make sense, IMO

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:28 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:Continue to go downhill? His hometown was the best of the three.
IMO, Ben's was the most important and best of the four. Ames, you could see doubts creeping in. JP's was full of fun, but not a lot of content, Constantines was full of fun. Ben's was the most balanced. There was a lot of substance to it and the fun was there too.

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:29 pm

skitts wrote:Coastal, question...did the HTD's include the downhill edit....it all seemed pretty neutral this past Monday?
JP's was fun and full of doubts........mostly on JP's family side.

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Post by klarson79 Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:29 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:Continue to go downhill? His hometown was the best of the three.

Yeah, I'm confused?? hmmm I didn't see any downhill action for JP last episode.

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Post by happyvalleygirl Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:31 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:Continue to go downhill? His hometown was the best of the three.

Right Patty?? I feel like I perceive a whole different show than some. thats ok, i will keep on enjoying the story I see. Just a few more weeks and we will know for sure.....Has Blondie heard anything different from her source?? This is about the time in the past few seasons where we have heard new rumors.
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Post by Beeleever Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:31 pm

ironcat wrote:
Coastal wrote:
ironcat wrote:
skitts wrote:If JP was clearly upset over Ben's overnight two epi's ago, do you think he will come right out ask Ash about the FSD with Ben? They will show JP's date last, but of course filming may not have been in that order. I'm very curious if this will be addressed by JP...thoughts?

Assuming that JP knew nothing of how this show worked prior, and would be hearing for the first time about the FS option when Ashley gives him the card, I'd be surprised if he didn't ask her how she handled this with the other guys, but I'm almost sure that he waited until they were alone with no cameras, and she probably told him that Dino already left, and that she and Ben just talked all night.

It's possible though, that in an attempt to prolong the "JP jealousy" storyline, he'll be prompted to bring it up on camera, and Ashley will have to tell him on camera that he needs to deal with it; then, once they're alone, she'll reassure him that nothing happened with the other guys.
I have a hard time believing that JP will be able to "deal" with it, no matter how it is presented. I think that his jealousy will be a major stumbling block for them and one that might not be overcome, hence the source of mine saying that things will continue to go downhill for her and JP and will go better for Ash and Ben........kind of how Chantal's edit went through Brad's season, JP is following that edit very well. Chantal was very upset the last epi before hometowns.......kind of how JP acted.

JP's own commentary on last episode indicates that he didn't have any more bouts of jealousy over the course of the show, so I think I'll believe him over your sources, thanks!

BTW, since reason now claims that her source has told her Ben is not F1, anything new on your end?

I did not see this...can you direct me to the post? I'm trying so hard to catch up! Thanks ironcat...or anyone else that knows. :thismuch:
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Post by Guest Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:33 pm

ironcat wrote:
Coastal wrote:
ironcat wrote:
skitts wrote:If JP was clearly upset over Ben's overnight two epi's ago, do you think he will come right out ask Ash about the FSD with Ben? They will show JP's date last, but of course filming may not have been in that order. I'm very curious if this will be addressed by JP...thoughts?

Assuming that JP knew nothing of how this show worked prior, and would be hearing for the first time about the FS option when Ashley gives him the card, I'd be surprised if he didn't ask her how she handled this with the other guys, but I'm almost sure that he waited until they were alone with no cameras, and she probably told him that Dino already left, and that she and Ben just talked all night.

It's possible though, that in an attempt to prolong the "JP jealousy" storyline, he'll be prompted to bring it up on camera, and Ashley will have to tell him on camera that he needs to deal with it; then, once they're alone, she'll reassure him that nothing happened with the other guys.
I have a hard time believing that JP will be able to "deal" with it, no matter how it is presented. I think that his jealousy will be a major stumbling block for them and one that might not be overcome, hence the source of mine saying that things will continue to go downhill for her and JP and will go better for Ash and Ben........kind of how Chantal's edit went through Brad's season, JP is following that edit very well. Chantal was very upset the last epi before hometowns.......kind of how JP acted.

JP's own commentary on last episode indicates that he didn't have any more bouts of jealousy over the course of the show, so I think I'll believe him over your sources, thanks!

BTW, since reason now claims that her source has told her Ben is not F1, anything new on your end?
Nothing new.........other than they are standing absolutely FIRM on what they have said.

Don't know how you can say that his commentary on last epi said that he doesn't have any more bouts of jealousy.........there is still the Fd's and LCD's to go............not to mention that he is very jealous on screen of Ben having any kind of a connection with Ashley..........that is so OBVIOUS.

ALSO, where exactly did reason say that her source has changed their minds.........I didn't see that anywhere. thanks.

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Post by bilolo Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:34 pm

Coastal wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:Continue to go downhill? His hometown was the best of the three.
IMO, Ben's was the most important and best of the four. Ames, you could see doubts creeping in. JP's was full of fun, but not a lot of content, Constantines was full of fun. Ben's was the most balanced. There was a lot of substance to it and the fun was there too.

dare i say you put your rose glasses here because i did not see the same thing as you but ok it's your opinion
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Post by klarson79 Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:34 pm

Beeleever wrote:
ironcat wrote:

BTW, since reason now claims that her source has told her Ben is not F1, anything new on your end?

I did not see this...can you direct me to the post? I'm trying so hard to catch up! Thanks ironcat...or anyone else that knows. :thismuch:

I believe it's in the Ben thread. The original post was deleted however.

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Post by mnmhughes Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:36 pm

klarson79 wrote:
Beeleever wrote:
ironcat wrote:

BTW, since reason now claims that her source has told her Ben is not F1, anything new on your end?

I did not see this...can you direct me to the post? I'm trying so hard to catch up! Thanks ironcat...or anyone else that knows. :thismuch:

I believe it's in the Ben thread. The original post was deleted however.

The original post was deleted, but she came back on this afternoon to reiterate that Ben is F2. yes
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