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Post by Love_Me Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:25 am

BKay wrote:Atem, what does Jolly date refer to? I'm not seeing that in Pavalygurl's post.

eta: we need a chart or something to post each tidbit so we can refer to it when someone has new info or idea.

gabriele wrote:i started a new Picture/Location Chart for Antigua thread so we can try to keep track of all this info as it is soooo confusing. go here: https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t2010-picture-location-chart-for-antigua
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Post by 2observe Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:47 pm

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pavalygurl wrote:I wasn't sure where to put this, so Love or San please move if appropriate.

We have been told the same company owns/manages three properties used this season for the Fantasy Dates and perhaps for the Last Chance dates.  Going by what we have in SCs and the locations, I have the following ideas:

Verandah is on Long Bay near Devil's Bridge.  I think Chris stays here.
It's on the east side of Antigua.

Galley Bay is near St John's Bay on the west side of Antigua.  It has the thatched roof places and cottages called Gaugin Cottages.  I think this is where Des is shown in the red dress saying something like "I've never felt so loved".    We have no SCs but by process of elimination it is most likely Brooks, or Zak if we want to "go there".

St James is on Mamora Bay in the south of Antigua.  It is near Shirley Heights and Falmouth Harbor.  I think Drew stays here.

Des is reported by momoftrips to have stayed at St. Anne's Point.  It is a private estate near Falmouth Harbor
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Regarding the bolded, if (as the initial spoilers said) Drew is F1, it would make sense that he is the one that is staying closest to Des and her family(I'm assuming that her family is also staying at St. Anne.)


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Post by 2observe Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:51 pm

I have a question. When did the FRC take place????
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Post by Tiggerlgh Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:51 pm

2observe wrote:I have a question.  When did the FRC take place????

The Verandah.

ETA: Sorry I misread when for where.

I have May 6th in my head but may be wrong. Let me look.
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Post by atem Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:54 pm

2observe wrote:I have a question.  When did the FRC take place????

Supposedly, May 8th.


Anything I post means it's Just My Opinion.  Don't feel like posting it every time I post. So, I thought I'd get that out of the way.

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Post by 2observe Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:06 pm

atem wrote:
2observe wrote:I have a question.  When did the FRC take place????

Supposedly, May 8th.

Thanks, I'm trying to confirm whether Drew made it to F2.
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Post by Tiggerlgh Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:33 pm

2observe wrote:
atem wrote:
2observe wrote:I have a question.  When did the FRC take place????

Supposedly, May 8th.

Thanks, I'm trying to confirm whether Drew made it to F2.  

How can we tell? Haven't they been keeping the F3 back and the F2 and F3 return at the same time? I know they did that with Sean and Arie and I thought it occurred other seasons as well.
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Post by nd4reality Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:39 am

Tiggerlgh wrote:
2observe wrote:
atem wrote:
2observe wrote:I have a question.  When did the FRC take place????

Supposedly, May 8th.

Thanks, I'm trying to confirm whether Drew made it to F2.  

How can we tell?  Haven't they been keeping the F3 back and the F2 and F3 return at the same time?  I know they did that with Sean and Arie and I thought it occurred other seasons as well.

Yes that is not something we can use to sleuth in recent seasons. Possibly the F2 and F3 return at the same time and the F1&lead a little later (if they spend some time together). JMO.

I think from all accounts, Drew did not come home earlier than the F2 and possibly F1.



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Post by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:59 pm

I've been working on the timeline / filming schedule from where it had last been updated, so this is what I've got, and of course, a lot of unseen episodes can be up for debate, so let me know if something should be corrected.

3/4: MF tweeted “Ordering Bojangles for Des and entire crew”
3/11: Des’ last tweet before filming

First Episode:
3/14: Meet & Greet, LA Mansion

2nd Episode:
3/15: Off
3/16: 1-1 date w Brooks in LA at bridal salon, cupcake truck, Hollywood sign, bridge dinner and music w dancing
3/17: Group Date – Soulja Boy Video
3/18: 1-1 date w Bryden, drive thru hills, Ojai Inn and Spa (night portion)
3/19: Rose Ceremony #2

3rd Episode:
3/20: Dodgeball Competition Group Date (Brooks, Ben, Brian, Brad, Chris, Brandon, Zack)
3/21: Brian’s gf came to mansion – Des sent him home immediately
3/21: 1-1 Date w Kasey at the Andaz West Hollywood Hotel (dancing on the building)
3/22: Western group date (JuanPa, Zak, James, Bryden,  
3/23: Rose Ceremony #3

4th Episode
3/24: Travel to Atlantic City (6-7 hr flight from LA)
3/25: Travel
3/26: 1-1 Date w Brad; Des sent him home
3/27: Group Date - 11 Guys - Mr. America Pageant (Kasey - winner, Zak W, Brooks, Juan Pa, Drew, Bryden, Mikey, Mike G, Zack K, Chris, Ben)
3/28: 1-1 Date w James Case on helicopter tour of Sandy damage, visit w Manny and Jan
3/29: Rose Ceremony #4 -

5th Episode
3/30: Travel to Munich, Germany (8 hr flight from NY)
3/31: 2:00 am (Munich time) MF tweeted - Dez and the boys are enjoying some fun in the sun... So far, a VERY dramatic season!!!
3/31: Guys go to church in Munich
4/1: 1-1 Date w Chris, Bryden interrupts to tell Des he is going home
4/2: Group Date, sledding and Ice Igloo (Brooks, Mikey, James, Kasey, Drew, JuanPa
4/3: 2-1 Date w Ben Scott and Mike G. Ben goes home.
4/4: Rose Ceremony #5 – Mikey eliminated

6th Episode
4/5: Travel to Sitges and Barcelona, Spain (2 hr flight from Munich)
4/6: 1-1 w Drew, walk the city, see the People Tower and Citadel
4/7: Group Date, playing soccer (JuanPa, Chris, Brooks, James, Kasey)
4/8: 1-1 w Zak, art gallery (Des’ birthday)– zevirahwolf posted they also go ziplining, but sd may be later as a FD
4/9: Rose Ceremony #6 – JuanPa, James, Kasey eliminated
4/9: 6:45 pm (Barcelona time) MF tweeted - The London Fog is rolling in on Dez' date. Very romantic!!!
and at 6:53 pm he tweeted  Multiple Mancry!!!!
[Barcelona is generally a sunny city, however, some days of fog and spells of cloudy days are not rare. Sea fog is frequent in early spring, when the first warm African air masses come in over the cold sea water.]

7th Episode
4/9: Lesley Murphy, Catherine and Jackie fly from US to Madeira, Portugal (20 hr flights?)
4/10: Travel to Madeira, Portugal (1 hr flight to Lisbon, flight to the island or sailboat ride to, or more likely, around island)
4/10: 7:30 pm (Portugal time) MF tweeted - Hehehehehe!!!
4/11: 1-1 Date w Brooks, hike and picnic
4/11: 2:30 am (Portugal time) MF tweeted - Took a poll of my producers today. It's unanimous... Dez' season is truly the best we've ever had on The Bachelorette!!!
4/11: 7:10 pm (Portugal time) MF tweeted - It's a horse race. Two or three strong contenders for Dez' heart... She has tough decisions to make!
4/11: 11 pm (Portugal time) MF tweeted - The Bojangles in Rome has the best chicken-- EVER!!!
4/11: 11 pm (Portugal time) Robert Mills tweeted - This season of #Bachelorette has set the record for most nipples.
4/12: 1-1 Date w Chris, boat ride then dinner on deserted island
4/12 Catherine tweeted - I love my life. My full-of-surprises, wonderful life. @LesleyMurph @Jparrmakeup
and Lesley replied - @clmgiudici @jparrmakeup Cause we're the three best friends that anyone ever had.
The 3 girls were home by/ on the 13th, jet-lagged and exhausted, per twitter comments and Coachella shopping tweet.
4/12: 12 am (Portugal time) MF tweeted - Dez is having a great trip and will be back soon. Buy I may stay on in Dubrovnik or Pescara or maybe Majorca. We shall see. We shall see.
4/12: 1 am (Portugal time) MF tweeted - All my former Bachelorettes are mad at me. :( Sorry, ladies...
4/13: 1-1 Date w Michael G, toboggan ride
4/14: 2-1 Date w Drew and Zak, go-kart racing
4/15: Rose Ceremony #7 – Michael G is eliminated
4/16: Travel to LA
4/16: Lesley tweeted the Madeira ice cream photo of herself w Catherine and Jackie.
4/17: RS tweeted - Hometown dates are set to begin. I've got your final four plus more contestants that I haven't released yet. Coming soon.. And From what I'm hearing, Desiree's choice in the end will not surprise anyone. She's apparently known from early on who she liked the most.
4/17: Nate Hartsock tweeted - @nate_hartsock83 6m  Going back to Cali, I love LA!!! #thebachelorette (meaning  he is going on the 22nd)

8th Episode
4/18: Drew Kenney HTD in St. Louis, MO?
4/19: Zak Waddell HTD in Dallas, TX?
4/20: Film crew in Chris’s hometown of McMinnville, Oregon; someone there tweeted abt it at 9 pm
4/21: Chris Siegfried HTD in McMinnville – dinner with the family, as posted by scoopsville
4/22: Brooks Forester HTD in SLC, UT?
4:22: Nate tweeted he is going to CA today
4/23:  
4/24: Rose Ceremony # 8 in LA (Beverly Wilshire Hotel maybe?) – Zak W. is eliminated?

9th Episode
4/25: flights to Antigua? (14-15 hr flights)
4/27: FD?
4/28: Chris Harrison spotted at LAX
4/28: FD?
4/29: FD?
4/30: Rose Ceremony #9 – Drew is eliminated?
4/30: earthquake in Antigua, no damage, most didn’t feel it
4/30: Brooks twitter account was reactivated
5/1: Chris Harrison was twitter silent until 5/8, except for 3 bball game tweets

10th Episode
5/1: MTP?
5/2: MTP?
5/3: LCD?
5/5: LCD?
5/5: Cassie tweeted twice today, but only the two between 4/29 and 5/11
5/6: FRC?

Afterward:
5/7: 12:07 am cst - antiguaparadise34 posted ‘Desiree will end up with Drew. Chris and Brooks are out.’
5/7: someone tweeted CH asking if it was him on their flight from Antigua to Miami
5/7 Des alone time w F1?
5/7: 3:46 am cst - Love_me posted ‘interesting, because that is exactly what I am hearing will happen’ on antiguaparadise34’s post above.
5/8: Des alone time w F1?
5/8: 6:04 pm cst – Love_Me posted ‘I have also been told by a more trusted source that Brooks and Chris are in the F2. I wanted to post everything that has been shared with me these last few days. At this time I am not ready to confirm the following, but my gut tells me Brooks will end up being the F1.
5/9: 3:46 am cst – Sanlee posted her source confirmed Brooks as F1, Chris as F2
5/9: Des alone time w F1, or flight home?
5/9: Elan was twitter silent for about 11 hrs, as though flying home
5/10: Des and F1 flight home? Or came back day before?
5/11: Des faved a tweet:  
Christina Fromson ‏@cfromson11 May
Was that you, @DesHartsock, looking at the dish soap at the Culver City Target?
2:05 PM - 11 May 13 •

And wrote one: Desiree Hartsock ‏@DesHartsock11 May
Finally back in action! #noplacelikehome but looking fwd to sharing my journey with you all. Thanks again for all the support! #bachelorette
8:00 PM - 11 May 13
5/11: Cassie and Peter back home per tweets
5/12:
5/13: ABC released guy’s bios
5/18-25: Our poster, Nikikass, was at Verandah where she talked with a housekeeper who sd Des looked sad while there.
6/24: Sophienette posted that she is the 4th to confirm Brooks as F1

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:29 pm

thanks for putting this altogether bkay.

9th Episode
4/25: flights to Antigua? (14-15 hr flights)
4/27: FD?
4/28: Chris Harrison spotted at LAX
4/28: FD?
4/29: FD?
4/30: Rose Ceremony #9 – Drew is eliminated?
4/30: earthquake in Antigua, no damage, most didn’t feel it
4/30: Brooks twitter account was reactivated
5/1: Chris Harrison was twitter silent until 5/8, except for 3 bball game tweets

very interesting that brooks' twitter was reactivated. i'm thinking that may mean he did left for a bit. i guess it's possible he was cut at F3 but i doubt it. i think this would explain BSG which totally looks like the guy leaving to me.

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Post by nd4reality Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:32 pm

Yes exactly. The part about Brooks`twitter being reactivated is the most interesting part of the schedule imo. Other eliminated contestants also reactivated their twitter after well, the elimination.


Bkay - are you sure the FRC was on the 6th. I thought most folks here thought it was the 8th. Great job on the schedule.


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Post by Tiggerlgh Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:39 pm

nd4reality wrote:Yes exactly. The part about Brooks`twitter being reactivated is the most interesting part of the schedule imo. Other eliminated contestants also reactivated their twitter after well, the elimination.


Bkay - are you sure the FRC was on the 6th. I thought most folks here thought it was the 8th. Great job on the schedule.

Yeah I think it was the 8th. I said the 6th the other day but after looking back I think it was the 8th. I think there may be some days off in the MTP/LCD timeframe prior to the FRC.


It does bother me that Brooks account was activated then. I can think of 3 scenarios 1) he left for a little while and came back 2) He left and the F1 spoiler is wrong 3) TPTB are catching on and this season was fairly obvious and so they had him activate it in Antigua. They are starting to play the social media game more and more so i wouldn't put that past them.
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