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Post by Kashathediva Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:19 pm

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tigertiz wrote:Is it possible that Drew dumps Des after finding out that she took Brooks back?   He either sees the writing on the wall, or is just disgusted with her poor judgment?  I suppose if he was in Bubble Love he'd stick it out, hoping to still be F1.  But maybe not......

This makes a LOT of sense to me.  Fits with the storyline we see developing, and also explains Des' cold treatment of him in her blogs.  Great analysis!  

Makes good sense to me too--the only sense.
Drew's edit last week told about his father being his hero. A source of strength is how he viewed his father. This is diametrically opposed to how he will see Brooks leaving and then coming back which he will perceive as a sign of weakness. JMOAA.



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Post by Guest Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:44 pm

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IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that gor her.

Exactly IG, I keep wondering what reason he could come up for leaving that when she takes him back won`t make her not look completely like a pushover and cannot come up with a single one. But this as well as a slew of other `holes`are frequently brushed aside to the point that it gets a bit ridiculous.


it wouldnt be the first time... Jillian?

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Post by moonchild Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:47 pm

Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying. Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode? Still waiting on that one! LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew - I didn't see this happening. It's not something you control. It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face. The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here". Then the front shot shows her saying "is you". It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave. She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay. He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens. And he tells her it's never going to work. Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.



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Post by nutty1 Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:54 pm

moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


Totally agree with all you wrote!!


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Post by Baseball Mom Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:03 pm

nutty1 wrote:
moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


Totally agree with all you wrote!!

If you are right and this is what happens, I would be totally upset with her that she didn't give Chris the same courtesy of letting him know where her heart is....


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Post by moonchild Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:17 pm

Baseball Mom wrote:
nutty1 wrote:
moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


Totally agree with all you wrote!!

If you are right and this is what happens, I would be totally upset with her that she didn't give Chris the same courtesy of letting him know where her heart is....  


What I meant was that Chris was always going to be in her final 2. I don't think she would tell him that Brooks was definitely her F1, but that she didn't want Drew to find out later that Brooks and Chris were her original final 2 until Brooks departed.


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Post by Guest Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:20 pm

moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart
Ash had the exact same words when talking about having to reject Ben... me thinks she is talking about knowing she will hurt the other guy(s).

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:26 pm

moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


So you're saying that she tells Drew that she's only sticking around for him?


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Post by nutty1 Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:28 pm

sophienette wrote:
moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart
Ash had the exact same words when talking about having to reject Ben... me thinks she is talking about knowing she will hurt the other guy(s).

But she is SO devastated in that entire scene, that's also the clothes she wears when she says she just wants to go home.


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Post by nd4reality Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:31 pm

Baseball Mom wrote:
nutty1 wrote:
moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


Totally agree with all you wrote!!

If you are right and this is what happens, I would be totally upset with her that she didn't give Chris the same courtesy of letting him know where her heart is....  

I somehow doubt that Drew was given that courtesy though. I just read that scene differently. I also feel that she won't allow Chris to propose or any of those things that magazine claimed was going to happen. JMO.


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Post by misticia Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:36 pm

nutty1 wrote:
moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


Totally agree with all you wrote!!

I agree too. The reason why she wanted Drew as F3 is not to hurt his feelings in a F2 because they seems pretty deep. We have to keep in mind that he told her all the dramas he went threw in his personal life. So she tells the truth to Drew because she cares about him and thinks she owes him honesty to give them a chance.
The question is : is Drew leaving after that or not? IMO, no because he had 2 dates in Antigua...

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Post by moonchild Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:40 pm

canyonvue wrote:
moonchild wrote:Hey Nutty, so good to see you posting!

First of all, whatever Fleiss & Co is selling, I'm not buying.  Weren't we supposed to have the best moment in Bachelor History this episode?  Still waiting on that one!  LOL

Watching the preview with Des talking to Drew.

Drew -  I didn't see this happening.  It's not something you control.  It just happens.

Des (VO)(crying) - For once in my life I was hopeful

Then the camera barely has a side view of her talking and slowly pans to a front shot with her arm/hand in front of her face.  The side view starts with us hearing her say "all that has kept me here".  Then the front shot shows her saying "is you".  It sounds very choppy here.

Des (VO) while hugging Drew - I've always loved the wrong people

Des saying to Drew - I can be (sounds choppy to me) 100% for you (The only thing I can read her lips actually saying is "you", her arm is covering her mouth for the other.)

Drew - It's just never going to work

Des (VO on the pier) I don't want to love someone if they don't love me the same-- Haven't we heard her say this on the show before??

Des (Same clothes as pier in PI) It just breaks my heart

Could it be that Brooks does leave.  She wants to come clean with Drew that he was going to be F3, but she has strong enough feelings for him that she wants him to stay.  He tells her that it isn't something you can control....when it's right it just happens.  And he tells her it's never going to work.  Most of her tears during this is remnant of Brooks leaving and having to tell Drew.

Just a thought.


So you're saying that she tells Drew that she's only sticking around for him?

It appears to me that she didn't actually say those words to him. It sounds like it was sliced and diced.


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