Re: Tim Lopez - Ready For Love - Spoilers - Thread #4

[mrsgrover]

I want to add that at this point going solely by the show and the words of both Eva and Tim I would be shocked if it was anyone than Sara. Eva saying that it is the most romantic love story ever and Tim saying that they are still in love and he can tell everyone because they "just give it away". I admit in the beginning I thought it had to be Jenna but it just stalled. I never saw anything leading me to think that Hailey is the most romantic thing i ever saw. So unless next week is just so obvious that he picks Jenna I am stuck with Sara and thrilled.

I'm Thinking The Same Way As You. The Only Love Story I See Progressing Is With Tim And Sara. Everyone Seems To Think Ernesto Picks Shandi, And That Is Definitely The Only Love Story I See There. So Why Would They Be Hiding Tim And Jenna If They Are The Love Story? I Guess We Will See If Things Change Next week.

[Guest]

IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

I imagine they weren't the least bit worried about being at the same large events where there were hundreds of people when no one in the room knew who Jenna was. It's not like they were at a wedding or some other intimate event where everyone would take note of her. I am sure they would not have done it a month or a week before the premier of the show this spring. I also bet they are shocked that anyone found the pictures. one of those two events was for large donors. How and why would jenna have been able to be there on her own? I can't come up with a scenario.

Tigertiz, the issue, for me, has always been about their confidentiality agreement/contract. The fact that those photos were discovered would, imo, show evidence of contract violations, if Jenna is his F1.

I agree...and I can't believe the producers let that photo fly out there in cyberspace if Jenna is F1. They were watching the girls social media (particularly the f1's) You would think that someone would have gone...oh wait...why is Jenna being photographed with an actress? Oh. Right. PWT's are playing at the Gala....hmmmm...not good. Right?

Now, I agree, so far the producers have appeared not to be the sharpest sticks in the shed. But I'm hoping that we're wrong about them. They may have jumped the shark. But at the moment, I'm playing devil's advocate and assuming they had their stuff together.

And here's some scenarios...

1. Jenna is in LA to do pickup interviews for the show (or whatever) PWT's are playing the gala. She tags along backstage. With or/without other girls. WDK who else was there.
2. Eva buys a table at the Gala. Jenna is invited along to help fill the table. W/or without other girls.

Seems logical enough to me... after all, we can assume all we want but we don't know what other friendships these girls formed with whoever. And the bottom line is there is not a picture of both of them together where you can make out the identities of both individuals indisputably post filming. So, whoever Tim is with he's done a good job at keeping it a secret. Even after weeks of all of our sleuthing - and amazing sleuthing at that - we are STILL not 100% sure. Well.. some of us feel we are but I wouldn't swear on the bible by it. The Bach is ALWAYS spoiled by now.

Sometimes I feel my posts are irrelevant and/or redundant to ideas already inputted.... so ignore me if they are! ha! This is why I never post!

[2observe]

IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

But wasn't that event before the show started to air? Before anyone would even question about them being at the same event? The odds are most people at that event are not diehard sluethers so it probably wouldn't register that he/Jenna are a couple especially if they were not acting as a couple but just at the same event......IDK it just seem to me that they wouldn't be in the same circles if it wasn't for them being a couple after this show, just seem strange to me that they could have been anywhere that night but ended up at the same gathering, odd?

I'm no attorney, but I would think that they would be bound to term their contract until the Show either aires or they receive notice that they are no longer bound by contract.

They were at the same event, they could argue that it wasn't planned.....It's not like there are pictures of them holding hands, kissing etc......I think we are making more out of what is said by these Bachelors when in the past everything that is said is for public consumption and not to be taken literally......

I would think that Tim would tell his F1 (I'm sure they talk) about where he performs. jmo

[perdita]

I want to add that at this point going solely by the show and the words of both Eva and Tim I would be shocked if it was anyone than Sara. Eva saying that it is the most romantic love story ever and Tim saying that they are still in love and he can tell everyone because they "just give it away". I admit in the beginning I thought it had to be Jenna but it just stalled. I never saw anything leading me to think that Hailey is the most romantic thing i ever saw. So unless next week is just so obvious that he picks Jenna I am stuck with Sara and thrilled.

lovinlife, where did Tim say that? I'd love to hear/read it! :Smiley:

[MVMom39forever]

IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

I imagine they weren't the least bit worried about being at the same large events where there were hundreds of people when no one in the room knew who Jenna was. It's not like they were at a wedding or some other intimate event where everyone would take note of her. I am sure they would not have done it a month or a week before the premier of the show this spring. I also bet they are shocked that anyone found the pictures. one of those two events was for large donors. How and why would jenna have been able to be there on her own? I can't come up with a scenario.

Tigertiz, the issue, for me, has always been about their confidentiality agreement/contract. The fact that those photos were discovered would, imo, show evidence of contract violations, if Jenna is his F1.

well that may be, but at least they were careful enough not to be in the same frame. It was many months before the premier. I doubt production cared that much. It's not like they walked a red carpet together or even were out to dinner alone where thy could be seen together. They weren't together, they were just at the same large event, separately. No one was counting on our sleuthers. Heh.

I agree! Consider these key dates (source: RFL Facebook page):

- Guys announced on RFL Facebook page = April 12, 2012
- Recruitment of women = first week of May 2012
- Filming started (per Giulana tweet) = June 20, 2012
- Estimated filming ended = August 28, 2012 (based on 10 week shoot)
- Charity Gala Event = Oct 24 or 25, 2012 (separate photographs with Isla)
- RFL Facebook announcement of March 31, 2013 airdate = October 30, 2012
- Eva on Jay Leno promoting show = April 4, 2013
- Actual Airdate = April 9, 2013

Tim may have gotten wind that the episode was not going to air for another FIVE months and said screw it. The RFL contestants had not been announced and was not on anyone's radar. Jenna could very easily attend as part of the PWT's entourage. As long as Jenna and Tim did not have PDA at event, folks could have thought Jenna was someone else's date and/or assistant.

Consider that Bachelorette stops filming and the show starts airing a week or two later. Sean's Bachelor ended in late November and on air first week of January (6 weeks later!).

This messed up schedule really should be clue #?? I just can't see how anyone could maintain an under-cover relationship for this long and as Tim has said, see it really blossom/progress, if they were not living in same city.

While if you were living in different cities and under contract for confidentiality, it WOULD be very stressful as Ben has said it has been for him and his F1 to carry on relationship and take to next level.

[luvlady345]

IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

But wasn't that event before the show started to air? Before anyone would even question about them being at the same event? The odds are most people at that event are not diehard sluethers so it probably wouldn't register that he/Jenna are a couple especially if they were not acting as a couple but just at the same event......IDK it just seem to me that they wouldn't be in the same circles if it wasn't for them being a couple after this show, just seem strange to me that they could have been anywhere that night but ended up at the same gathering, odd?

I'm no attorney, but I would think that they would be bound to term their contract until the Show either aires or they receive notice that they are no longer bound by contract.

They were at the same event, they could argue that it wasn't planned.....It's not like there are pictures of them holding hands, kissing etc......I think we are making more out of what is said by these Bachelors when in the past everything that is said is for public consumption and not to be taken literally......

I would think that Tim would tell his F1 (I'm sure they talk) about where he performs. jmo

I am sure he would, and what events he was going to be attending thus the photo in question.....I don't have a girl in the race but to toss aside this photo as nothing.......If I was the F1 an if it isn't Jenna, wouldn't this bother you?

[Guest]

Well you can tell it's getting down to the end, ! We're all convinced it's our pick, only see a love story with that particular girl and it's a close race between THREE of them!! So really, editors/production must have known what they were doing.

[Guest]

I'm curious, how often does Jenna tweet back? Litta... I know you have tweeted her. Has anyone else here had any twitter interaction with Jenna? Also with Hailey

[Guest]

beetims she doesn't tweet back much, but she's tweeted me back a few times...Litta the most as far as I know. She's def. not as vocal about the show as the other girls.

[Litta123]

Don't forget there was an event the next night that both Tim and Jenna were at ...also photographed separately, but clearly at the same event, the Samsung Galaxy party.

For those of us who see Jenna as F1, that is more evidence to support our position. For those who don't, there's a different explanation.

But if I am the F1 and I'm not Jenna, I would like to know why she was there? (I just saw luvlady has posted the same thing...I walked away earlier from the computer without hitting send.)

MVMom, it has been posted by someone here that the finale was finished on August 14. If true, what we know from Jenna's tweets is that she stayed in LA until the 20th.

Beetims, I have had twitter interaction with Jenna, Hailey, Scott (Jenna's Dad) and now Sarah Moore. I have not tried any of the other girls.

[Love_Me]

Tigertiz, the issue, for me, has always been about their confidentiality agreement/contract. The fact that those photos were discovered would, imo, show evidence of contract violations, if Jenna is his F1.

Someone had an excellent post a couple of weeks ago. It might have been Brill. She mentioned that Brad and Bianka from The Bachelor Canada were spotted out in public together in AZ. This was before the finale had even aired. I doubt they thought anyone would recognize them there.

The Bachelor and Bachelorette are very popular prime time shows. They would never risk allowing the lead and F1 to be out in public together. They can only have safe house visits.

However, they have to stay hidden for a couple of months. Not the length of time that the Ready for Love leads and their F1's have had to stay hidden. Without seeing the contract the Ready For Love contestants sign it is hard to know what exactly they are allowed and not allowed to do. JMO

I'm curious, how often does Jenna tweet back? Litta... I know you have tweeted her. Has anyone else here had any twitter interaction with Jenna? Also with Hailey

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I have tweeted to Jenna a few times. I hope she decides to chat with us here after the season is over with. It would also be neat if she started following our site on Twitter. I tweet from @bachspoilerfans.

[perdita]

I just read this interview with Tim. I don't know if it's been posted before:

Tim's Interview on 411 Mania

Here is a snippet from the interview:

Al Norton: You mentioned the clause about editing and I'm pretty sure there's another one that says you're not allowed to reveal what happens; are you at all nervous about that, about slipping up and saying the wrong thing?

Tim Lopez: Yeah, I'm nervous right now (laughing). I'm allowed to say I did find happiness and have been dating someone for the last seven months but I am so used to constant communication with her and my closest friends and family know who she is and I'm used to being able to just say her name so I am a little terrified. It's a heavy, heavy penalty for ruining the show, I can tell you that.

Tim says in this interview that he is even afraid of saying F1's name for fear of the "heavy, heavy penalty."

If Jenna was F1, I don't think he would risk being seen in public with her!

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