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Post by luvlady345 Sat May 25, 2013 5:56 pm

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grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

But wasn't that event before the show started to air? Before anyone would even question about them being at the same event? The odds are most people at that event are not diehard sluethers so it probably wouldn't register that he/Jenna are a couple especially if they were not acting as a couple but just at the same event......IDK it just seem to me that they wouldn't be in the same circles if it wasn't for them being a couple after this show, just seem strange to me that they could have been anywhere that night but ended up at the same gathering, odd?


 

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Post by tigertiz Sat May 25, 2013 6:01 pm

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grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.
I imagine they weren't the least bit worried about being at the same large events where there were hundreds of people when no one in the room knew who Jenna was. It's not like they were at a wedding or some other intimate event where everyone would take note of her. I am sure they would not have done it a month or a week before the premier of the show this spring. I also bet they are shocked that anyone found the pictures. one of those two events was for large donors. How and why would jenna have been able to be there on her own? I can't come up with a scenario.
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Post by cma Sat May 25, 2013 6:09 pm

duh we are being manipulated, :gotcha: thinking its this person Sara when its the other person Jenna.Whether its Sara or Jenna we wont' know till the end.

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Post by 2observe Sat May 25, 2013 6:11 pm

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2observe wrote:
grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.
I imagine they weren't the least bit worried about being at the same large events where there were hundreds of people when no one in the room knew who Jenna was. It's not like they were at a wedding or some other intimate event where everyone would take note of her. I am sure they would not have done it a month or a week before the premier of the show this spring. I also bet they are shocked that anyone found the pictures. one of those two events was for large donors. How and why would jenna have been able to be there on her own? I can't come up with a scenario.


Tigertiz, the issue, for me, has always been about their confidentiality agreement/contract. The fact that those photos were discovered would, imo, show evidence of contract violations, if Jenna is his F1.
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Post by Guest Sat May 25, 2013 6:13 pm

2observe wrote:
grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

He posted a photo of them out for a ride on his motorcycle and as I said, Jenna would have gone unnoticed in October.

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Post by Guest Sat May 25, 2013 6:15 pm

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Iluvbachette wrote:I've been putting together a puzzle for some time now. I knew by the pieces I gathered that there was going to be something this weekend. If what I have gather is correct. And I have many puzzle pieces. They are not in Vegas, NJ, or Austin.

They are in Vegas. Promise.

Any solid evidence of this?

Hey Beetims! Missed ya!

Ah! Thanks! I would say I have missed you too but I have been keeping up with you ladies (and a guy?) from the shadows. It's been clear to me you are much better at this than I am.

I have been glued to the interaction with Sarah! She's awesome! I wonder if any of the other ladies will join in... Maybe who ever is eliminated this Tuesday will... If you are reading this - who ever you are - you should!!! I would love to jump in on the action but I feel almost frozen - starstruck, if you will. I am thankful for all tehe veterans in here who jumped right in! Th questions were perfect and the answers - even better.


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Post by 2observe Sat May 25, 2013 6:19 pm

luvlady345 wrote:
2observe wrote:
grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

But wasn't that event before the show started to air? Before anyone would even question about them being at the same event? The odds are most people at that event are not diehard sluethers so it probably wouldn't register that he/Jenna are a couple especially if they were not acting as a couple but just at the same event......IDK it just seem to me that they wouldn't be in the same circles if it wasn't for them being a couple after this show, just seem strange to me that they could have been anywhere that night but ended up at the same gathering, odd?

I'm no attorney, but I would think that they would be bound to term their contract until the Show either aires or they receive notice that they are no longer bound by contract.


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Post by MVMom39forever Sat May 25, 2013 6:19 pm

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MVMom39forever wrote:Here's the good news ... he's got three great gals for his finale. I can build a case for any one of them but think odds are its Jenna and with Sara a close second.

BTW ... for those of you thinking the love story with Jenna is stalled ... well, that's the editors doing the stalling! We have no clue since they showed us nothing of Tim & Jenna's date in Hawaii and the editing was so choppy last episode with her meeting parents. While they showed us alone time with Sara, we saw no alone time with anyone else.

Maybe, maybe, Eva and her team wanted to show us a beautiful love story with Tim & Sara but when does that ever happen in these reality dating shows?

Whether he picks Sara, Hailey or Jenna, the BEST news for us die hard romantics is that he is still with her and obviously in love.

MVMom, the editors are ones who editor to show the lovestory. If the edit doesn't show a progressing lovestory, then there isn't one. jmo Btw, I agree that, whoever he picked, he's happy. :Smiley:

Oh, I've got to respectfully disagree with you! So are you implying that Tim & Jenna did nothing interesting on their date in Hawaii that production decided to just skip showing any of it? Sarah Moore has said that she is surprised by Jenna's edit and even said that her exit interview when we heard her say that she was falling in love with Tim, had nothing to do with Tim but an ex-boyfriend. All editing tricks!

RFL producers are showing us the story that they WANT to show (and IMO that also includes building a fanbase for F2 and F3 to slide into lead spot for RFL2) Just pop on over to the SeanCat fan forum and you'll see tons of posts from fans bemoaning that so much of the SeanCat love story was left on cutting room floor. I am unspoiled on Des' season but do I think that Brooks is her F1? No way - they are showing way too much of him in every preview.



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Post by tigertiz Sat May 25, 2013 6:23 pm

2observe wrote:
tigertiz wrote:
2observe wrote:
grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.
I imagine they weren't the least bit worried about being at the same large events where there were hundreds of people when no one in the room knew who Jenna was. It's not like they were at a wedding or some other intimate event where everyone would take note of her. I am sure they would not have done it a month or a week before the premier of the show this spring. I also bet they are shocked that anyone found the pictures. one of those two events was for large donors. How and why would jenna have been able to be there on her own? I can't come up with a scenario.


Tigertiz, the issue, for me, has always been about their confidentiality agreement/contract. The fact that those photos were discovered would, imo, show evidence of contract violations, if Jenna is his F1.
well that may be, but at least they were careful enough not to be in the same frame. It was many months before the premier. I doubt production cared that much. It's not like they walked a red carpet together or even were out to dinner alone where thy could be seen together. They weren't together, they were just at the same large event, separately. No one was counting on our sleuthers. Heh.
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Post by Beb Sat May 25, 2013 6:24 pm

2observe wrote:
tigertiz wrote:
2observe wrote:
grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.
I imagine they weren't the least bit worried about being at the same large events where there were hundreds of people when no one in the room knew who Jenna was. It's not like they were at a wedding or some other intimate event where everyone would take note of her. I am sure they would not have done it a month or a week before the premier of the show this spring. I also bet they are shocked that anyone found the pictures. one of those two events was for large donors. How and why would jenna have been able to be there on her own? I can't come up with a scenario.


Tigertiz, the issue, for me, has always been about their confidentiality agreement/contract. The fact that those photos were discovered would, imo, show evidence of contract violations, if Jenna is his F1.

I agree...and I can't believe the producers let that photo fly out there in cyberspace if Jenna is F1. They were watching the girls social media (particularly the f1's) You would think that someone would have gone...oh wait...why is Jenna being photographed with an actress? Oh. Right. PWT's are playing at the Gala....hmmmm...not good. Right?

Now, I agree, so far the producers have appeared not to be the sharpest sticks in the shed. But I'm hoping that we're wrong about them. They may have jumped the shark. But at the moment, I'm playing devil's advocate and assuming they had their stuff together.

And here's some scenarios...

1. Jenna is in LA to do pickup interviews for the show (or whatever) PWT's are playing the gala. She tags along backstage. With or/without other girls. WDK who else was there.
2. Eva buys a table at the Gala. Jenna is invited along to help fill the table. W/or without other girls.


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Post by 2observe Sat May 25, 2013 6:29 pm

MVMom39forever wrote:
2observe wrote:
MVMom39forever wrote:Here's the good news ... he's got three great gals for his finale. I can build a case for any one of them but think odds are its Jenna and with Sara a close second.

BTW ... for those of you thinking the love story with Jenna is stalled ... well, that's the editors doing the stalling! We have no clue since they showed us nothing of Tim & Jenna's date in Hawaii and the editing was so choppy last episode with her meeting parents. While they showed us alone time with Sara, we saw no alone time with anyone else.

Maybe, maybe, Eva and her team wanted to show us a beautiful love story with Tim & Sara but when does that ever happen in these reality dating shows?

Whether he picks Sara, Hailey or Jenna, the BEST news for us die hard romantics is that he is still with her and obviously in love.

MVMom, the editors are ones who editor to show the lovestory. If the edit doesn't show a progressing lovestory, then there isn't one. jmo Btw, I agree that, whoever he picked, he's happy. :Smiley:

Oh, I've got to respectfully disagree with you! So are you implying that Tim & Jenna did nothing interesting on their date in Hawaii that production decided to just skip showing any of it? Sarah Moore has said that she is surprised by Jenna's edit and even said that her exit interview when we heard her say that she was falling in love with Tim, had nothing to do with Tim but an ex-boyfriend. All editing tricks!

RFL producers are showing us the story that they WANT to show (and IMO that also includes building a fanbase for F2 and F3 to slide into lead spot for RFL2) Just pop on over to the SeanCat fan forum and you'll see tons of posts from fans bemoaning that so much of the SeanCat love story was left on cutting room floor. I am unspoiled on Des' season but do I think that Brooks is her F1? No way - they are showing way too much of him in every preview.



I hope we can agree to disagree. :Smiley:
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Post by luvlady345 Sat May 25, 2013 6:32 pm

2observe wrote:
luvlady345 wrote:
2observe wrote:
grace8136 wrote:IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

I understood what Tim was saying. He said that when they were together it was behind closed doors so that they would not be photographed. So why would Tim and Jenna be at an event where they would, not only be seen, but be photographed also. It was clear to me that Tim is keeping his F1 hidden.

But wasn't that event before the show started to air? Before anyone would even question about them being at the same event? The odds are most people at that event are not diehard sluethers so it probably wouldn't register that he/Jenna are a couple especially if they were not acting as a couple but just at the same event......IDK it just seem to me that they wouldn't be in the same circles if it wasn't for them being a couple after this show, just seem strange to me that they could have been anywhere that night but ended up at the same gathering, odd?

I'm no attorney, but I would think that they would be bound to term their contract until the Show either aires or they receive notice that they are no longer bound by contract.



They were at the same event, they could argue that it wasn't planned.....It's not like there are pictures of them holding hands, kissing etc......I think we are making more out of what is said by these Bachelors when in the past everything that is said is for public consumption and not to be taken literally......


 

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