Re: Tim Lopez - Ready For Love - Spoilers - Thread #4

[noobsleuth]

Iluvbachette, I moved this post over here so I can address it...

IMO hard for me to hold this against Tim. This interview was done 8 months after those photos were taken and posted.

With Tim saying this. I highly doubt he would be out there with his f1 and know pictures are being taken at the same event.
There is an interview on youtube called Rink Drinks: "Ready for Love" where they interview all three guys. The host is asking them about staying out of the spotlight. This is a direct quote from Tim..."we spend as much time together behind closed doors where no one's there to take a photo...it's dangerous but it makes it fun."

Now, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, but wanted to just share some info I found about this event.

I believe Tom runs the T's twitter. During this event he posted on the T's twitter feed a pic of himself and De'mar with Adam Sandler (who presented the awards), a pic of Tim, himself, and De'mar with Isla Fischer (who was a VIP attendee... Isla and her husband Sacha paid for SIX scholarships), and another pic of himself (Tom) and Sacha Baron Cohen (VIP attendee along with his wife, Isla). Jenna of course has only posted a pic of herself with Isla. From what I could tell these pics were taken before the event took place as you can see the house lights are kind of up. During the event the room is much darker with only a few spotlights.

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I know this keeps coming up, but I think it's because it's the strongest evidence we can find to support one of them as F1. Looking at the pics I can't imagine her being there with anyone else, but if someone wants to go look at the celeb arrivals and venture a guess... I'm all ears/eyes!

[mrsgrover]

My goodness, you girls are having a real conundrum here regarding Sara and Jenna. Let me see if I can shed a bit of light on the two relationships. The relationship that Tim and Jenna have is kind where the two of you keep hoping that it will get better, but it never really does. The same kind of relationship that Brad and Jennifer had (except male and female roles reversed). The relationship that Tim and Sara have is the kind of relationship that the two of you want to build a family with. At this point in Tim's life and having coming out of a pretty bad situation, which relationship do you think Tim is going to go with? My bet is on the one with Sara. Same goes for Ben and Allie, the kind of relationship for starting a family. That is why going back to before episode 2, my bet has been on both Sara for Tim and Allie for Ben.

I'm seeing the exact same thing as you are seeing with Tim's relationships. In my mind Sara is the one if he is looking for a forever type of relationship.

[LoveThisStuff]

I have never put much stock in the event photos because I think it could go either way. Part of me thinks they indicate Jenna is for sure F1. The other part of me thinks it completely takes her out if the F1 spot. I just don't see the producers being ok with them being at any public event together if she is F1. I think it's likely she met several people through the show who would have had connections and the means to get her into the Gala.

[mrsgrover]

I have never put much stock in the event photos because I think it could go either way. Part of me thinks they indicate Jenna is for sure F1. The other part of me thinks it completely takes her out if the F1 spot. I just don't see the producers being ok with them being at any public event together if she is F1. I think it's likely she met several people through the show who would have had connections and the means to get her into the Gala.

I'm defintely on the fence on this one. I can see it going both ways. Wouldn't think the producers would be okay with it. But then again, since the show wasn't going to air until months later, maybe they didn't see any harm in them being together early on thinking no one would at that point be connecting them with the show.

[noobsleuth]

I have never put much stock in the event photos because I think it could go either way. Part of me thinks they indicate Jenna is for sure F1. The other part of me thinks it completely takes her out if the F1 spot. I just don't see the producers being ok with them being at any public event together if she is F1. I think it's likely she met several people through the show who would have had connections and the means to get her into the Gala.

I'm defintely on the fence on this one. I can see it going both ways. Wouldn't think the producers would be okay with it. But then again, since the show wasn't going to air until months later, maybe they didn't see any harm in them being together early on thinking no one would at that point be connecting them with the show.

That's basically it... did the producers underestimate our ability to stalk someone's social media or not? Wow that sounds sad.

[lovinlife]

MAybe there were other cast members from the show there and these are the only two pictures we saw.

[docnash14]

2oberve you were commenting about the lunch date with Sara and Tim and that it looked like they may have gone out to dinner too. Did I miss something I have looked at the video a few times I just don't see it Help

I didn't go back to check, but another poster pointed out that Sara had on different clothes during lunch, and it was assumed that maybe they were going out to dinner. :Smiley:

I posted in the Episode 7 thread that Tim and his family had on the same clothes for three of the women but wore different clothes with Sara which led me to deduce that either this was a dinner date or another day. Sarah M. indicated that the length of the dates often depended on with whom Tim wanted to spend more time.

In the other two groups, Ernesto's mom and sister had different clothes on with Shandi than they did with the other three and Ben's family wore different clothes with Taryn. So I am thinking each guy was allowed to choose the one woman with whom he wanted the most time.

Doc,
That would make sense if those were their choosen F1. We already have Ernesto & Shandi,
Tim & ? could be Sara, Ben & Taryn but the board thinks Taryn isn't in the F2. That might be something to think about.

Or it could be that these three were in the lead at this point of filming and things changed after that possibly both for Ben and Taryn and Sara and Tim.

[2observe]

Iluvbachette, I moved this post over here so I can address it...

IMO hard for me to hold this against Tim. This interview was done 8 months after those photos were taken and posted.

With Tim saying this. I highly doubt he would be out there with his f1 and know pictures are being taken at the same event.
There is an interview on youtube called Rink Drinks: "Ready for Love" where they interview all three guys. The host is asking them about staying out of the spotlight. This is a direct quote from Tim..."we spend as much time together behind closed doors where no one's there to take a photo...it's dangerous but it makes it fun."

Now, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, but wanted to just share some info I found about this event.

I believe Tom runs the T's twitter. During this event he posted on the T's twitter feed a pic of himself and De'mar with Adam Sandler (who presented the awards), a pic of Tim, himself, and De'mar with Isla Fischer (who was a VIP attendee... Isla and her husband Sacha paid for SIX scholarships), and another pic of himself (Tom) and Sacha Baron Cohen (VIP attendee along with his wife, Isla). Jenna of course has only posted a pic of herself with Isla. From what I could tell these pics were taken before the event took place as you can see the house lights are kind of up. During the event the room is much darker with only a few spotlights.

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example of a pic taken during the actual event:
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I know this keeps coming up, but I think it's because it's the strongest evidence we can find to support one of them as F1. Looking at the pics I can't imagine her being there with anyone else, but if someone wants to go look at the celeb arrivals and venture a guess... I'm all ears/eyes!

But Noobs, the fact that both Jenna and Tim were at the same event where they could be photographed contradicts what Tim say about him and F1 staying together behind close doors so that they would not be photographed.

[Guest]

IMO, I don't think we should take Tim's statement literally. They are avoiding being photographed together. They are not behind closed doors 24/7. In October, they could have lived an almost normal life because Jenna was not on anyone's radar. Now they are a bit more careful, but it's still not like with The Bachelor in a safe house, with a producer overseeing it.

[perdita]

My goodness, you girls are having a real conundrum here regarding Sara and Jenna. Let me see if I can shed a bit of light on the two relationships. The relationship that Tim and Jenna have is kind where the two of you keep hoping that it will get better, but it never really does. The same kind of relationship that Brad and Jennifer had (except male and female roles reversed). The relationship that Tim and Sara have is the kind of relationship that the two of you want to build a family with. At this point in Tim's life and having coming out of a pretty bad situation, which relationship do you think Tim is going to go with? My bet is on the one with Sara. Same goes for Ben and Allie, the kind of relationship for starting a family. That is why going back to before episode 2, my bet has been on both Sara for Tim and Allie for Ben.

I completely agree!

[perdita]

Hi Guys! First time posting (don’t tell my kids…I embarrass them enough as it is) I just posted this in the Sara thread but thought I would drag it over here as well. I LOVE Sara and I think the signs have pointed to her from the beginning even though the signs have been subtle. I mean you guys did see the “neck nuzzle” after she had that first conversation with Tim didn’t you? Wowza!! It was sweet and tender but it kinda gave me the vapors at the same time! Haha. I think that was the moment that “she hit him like a blinding light “ and things began for them. I think there had to be something there in order for Tim to take Sara to “his” tree. That tree date was not going to just any girl. It was going to someone special. I mean the guy has the tree tattooed on his arm for crying out loud! Even though the tree is gone now, how lovely that they will have sweet memories of it together.

Okay TeamSara… here is something to SLEUTH…I couldn’t stand it anymore and had to butt into the conversation. I love editing. I work with a design and marketing team and we do a lot of media splice and dice. If you open the scene with your main focus or character, you can then take any verbage you need that character to say and edit it in while bringing up another image. Even though you are seeing a clip of something else, the mind is still making the connection to the first image that was shown. We do this all the time when we need to make a concise statement in video. Soooooooooooooo…let’s take a look at the intro Tim does of all the girls on the “Meet the Parents” episode.

As a TeamSara member I cringed a little bit when I heard Tim say that “Jenna really gets my heart racing.” I thought to my old self that must be good old editing right there because it is not lining up with the love story that they are showing us. And they ARE showing us a love story. Oh and by the way, (wish I could find it) in one of Eva’s early interviews she said we will see one of the most beautiful love stories ever shown on tv. What is more beautiful than two people who have lost love and find it again. I think Jenna is an absolute doll but I don’t think that is the “beautiful” love story that we are seeing.

Back to editing…I went back and watched that intro again and BINGO! It was heavily edited. I give major props to the editors. They tried, I will give them that much. But when you do sound splicing it gets really tricky, especially if the sound bites were said at different times. If it’s not something you do on a regular basis then you won’t even catch it. Around the 59:35 mark (on hula) you see a clip of Jenna walking to meet the family and you HEAR Tim saying “Jenna, really” and immediately we cut away to see a clip of Tim in his blue shirt saying “gets my heart racing.” We automatically think that these two phrases are one sentence referring to Jenna. Not so quick! The word “Jenna” has been spliced in front of “really gets my heart racing.” If you close your eyes and listen, you can tell not only by the cadence of his voice but the pitch is different as well. Then add the fact that the audience does NOT see him say the word “Jenna.” Editing magic to add a huge element of doubt to the Sara love story by bringing the Jenna physical edit back into play. Man, I love this stuff!! Go take a listen and see if you can hear it. If you can’t hear it, just trust me on this one. He did NOT say this line as one continuous statement.

Oh and surprise…the same editing trick is used in his next statement. We do NOT see him say “there’s just so much passion and romance between us but…” (this is dubbed over passionate and romantic scenes between Tim and Jenna however). We then SEE him say “I do wonder if age is going to be an issue.” Pretty tricky I’d say. Also take a look at the way he is sitting in these interviews. During the “Sara talk” and the “heart racing talk” he is sitting upright. However, when he is having the “age issue talk” his body is leaning to our right. Something to think about. Maybe, just maybe, Sara not only has the loyalty, faith, pure heart, and ability to love completely, but she just might also share some passion and romance that gets Tim’s heart racing!

Oh isn’t this a whole lotta fun?

mimi grace, I went back to listen to this clip and YOU ARE RIGHT! Wowzers! Do you think you can listen to some of the other episodes and see if you can identify any more splicing?

[Spencer81]

mimi grace, thanks again 4 posting here.. U better watch out, we are some obsessed ppl here! I will be glad when it is over so I can get a life! haha

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