VO & PI's - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion

canyonvue wrote:

mimitalks wrote:

sfrank wrote:Guys...there is a VO in the preview where someone says "this is way worse than I thought it would be. And there is nothing I can say to make it better". That actually sounds like Brooks to me. Start at 2:09 in the video.



Thoughts?

It is definitely Brooks, and it fits now (after those two lollapalooza previews from ABC, additional footage of next week's dates with Brooks and Chris courtesy of TV Grapevine and a commercial that have us guessing all kinds of things) that he would say it. Kudos to those who faithfully went through these previews to grab any voiceovers they could and then attribute them to the guys they felt said them. (This was from page 3 of this thread.)

Now...what can he be talking about? I think it is BSG time, when he is telling her whatever it is that takes him (at least temporarily) out of the picture. Is he talking about the experience of competing for her and seeing her connect with other guys that is "worse than he thought it would be? or something totally unrelated to that? Any ideas? And is there anything anywhere else that seems to go with this conversation that we haven't mentioned yet?

I think he's just talking about something that happens: "This is way worse that I thought it would be." And this shows his heart was not into/he didn't want the outcome: "And there is nothing I can say to make it better." Which pretty much fits with his actions when he's pacing and what he's saying and that he looks miserable.

It sounds like "it" is something he was already aware of or worried about. It could be certain attitudes she'll encounter at his HTD. It could be the reason he introduces few women to his family and why he seems hesitant when she asks if he wants her to meet his family. It could be some view he has about the FD, like maybe he wouldn't want to spend the night with her. It could be meeting her parents. It could just be something he had to say/reveal/be honest with her about, like his feelings, or some piece of information about his past or present.

atem wrote:Brooks (nor any of the guys left) say, 'I'm loosing my sh*t'.  That was spliced in.  That preview is so freaking spliced, it's really hard to know who is saying what.

canyonvue wrote:

2observe wrote:

JBF wrote:

canyonvue wrote:I don't see it. :Smiley:

Ha ha! You are not alone. I bet if we had a vote here, I would be part of a 10% minority.

Also I read your latest post above and, yup, tons of Brooks in the promo. So... you know I won't exactly "argue" with you. Just state why I think it is Chris. They may not be the reasons you need to be convinced ... and that's fine. I guarantee though... if I happen to be right, I certainly won't rub it in your face because my own nose of full of gravel from past seasons... LOL! Hey! I am not 100% certain of anything.

Everything I post here won’t mean a thing to the MAJORITY of you simply because we have ten different reliable sources confirming differently. I am not knocking the sources. SOMETHING was seen happening at the FRC location that was fooling the snoopers. However, what is shown on screen is not matching what is being reported. It also is not jiving with Desiree's body language in interviews. There was a reason Jimmy Kimmel jokingly said Chris was "out" on account of almonds before she was able to react in any way.

I was OK with Brooks being F1 up until Munich. Then it suddenly dawned on me we had another Ali/Roberto situation on our hands, confirmed in that poem in episode #6.

Yes... we can argue body language here. Brooks acts like Marlon Brando with her on screen and Chris like Mister Rogers with his sweater, but the editors can be so deceptive. So many were sold on the Emily/Arie Love Story last year.

Also I was baffled as to why Zack Kalter was given so little screen time. Well... I kinda understood why. They may have gotten along TOO well in their alone time and viewers would be furious at her for eliminating him. That rose ceremony in Atlantic City was one she appeared to be crying a little. She was tear-free escorting Brandon the previous week. Apparently she was zeroing in on his biggest competition (i.e. creative writer, reserved personality, ex-baseball player). All of the photos from the dodgeball date had her groping all over Zack, not Chris... probably on purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJVlxnaevns&feature=player_detailpage

Key line at the close of that ceremony: "Atlantic City has been so good"... not that we saw all that much apart from Chris' high heels and poetry reading.

According to her poem, it was the dodgeball date that marked the turning point, but for me, this quote in episode #5 (after Bryden left) sealed it for me:

“it just makes me question the guys I really do like and want a relationship with. I wonder if they are going to be here for me or they are going to decide one day to pack up and leave… and it hurts, but I’m not going to let Bryden affect my date with Chris. Not at all. I just want to get back to Chris so I can feel happy again.”

With that statement ALONE, she tells us:
-yes, a guy leaving will hurt her a lot
-no, it will have no impact on her relationship with Chris (regardless of his pecking order in her mind as finalist or future dumpee)
-she already needs Chris as support

Also “For Chris to tell me he is here to the end, y’know… it makes me confident in us.”

What she could have said was “confident in HIM”. This is clever pronoun word play. For example: Ashley Hebert comments on a conservative Taiwanese outfit for Lucas because he’s a conservative guy and it is well suited to “him”, but JP lucks out on the wedding photo date with a tux since it is the best outfit for “us”.

Those Fleiss sickos... and the editors are sick... sick! sick! sick!... do this consistently and burn the innocent viewers constantly. I have plenty of scars. Desiree says Zak W. has all of these great qualities she sees in a husband, but says in Munich: "Today was so hard on me but I'm so happy that it was Chris on this date and nobody else because I can trust Chris with my heart. He's supportive, he's kind, he's romantic… he's expressive. He's everything that I could want in a husband."

The pronoun business continues when she discusses her dates with Brooks and Chris:

"I really like that today’s going to start off with showing Brooks my life and giving him a little slice of what it is like to be in my shoes. It is really important for the guys to know that I have a desire and a passion to design wedding dresses. I really want Brooks to see that part of my life.”

“I’m really excited for today’s date to explore Munich with our trusty phrase book. We will look like silly tourists. Today’s date is the perfect day to start this week and I couldn’t have picked a better guy for it.”

I know... This Is SOOOO NOT Right, as James would bellow. Manny and Jan on his Atlantic City date bring up the theme about getting through the hard times (i.e. hurricanes) together, but Desiree tells Brooks "You kinda have to go through the hard stuff to get to where you want to be." As if encouraging to go it alone. (All of America will see him do something pretty big come finale time, I am quite certain of it. What it will be will no doubt be “dramatic” as Harrison says.)

Discussing the kissing, which looks so much more passionate with Brooks than that dull poetry writer dude, the way it is described clearly indicates how different these connections are:

Brooks: “This could be the first kiss with somebody that I spend the rest of my life with. That’s a beginning to something that can really be as grand and amazing and idolized as this Hollywood sign.”

Chris: “I am slowly but certainly falling in love with Des and I think it’s mutual. She doesn’t have to say it. She can say it through her kisses. She can say it through her eyes. I know it is happening. This is real and this is happening.”

I know these are just words, but sometimes you have to pay close attention to them. I think Desiree has a lawyer telling her what to say so her future fiancé won’t get upset… or something. I dunno.

JBF, I can go with this because it makes sense. Chris is the one that has been consistant through out.

Who's to say Brooks isn't. Bottom line, we don't even know what happened. So far, Brooks has been just as consistent.

murasaki1393 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

agentcurls wrote:

canyonvue wrote:

agentcurls wrote:No matter how TPTB are trying to spin the VOs....Des stills says in PI in the red dress "I have never felt so loved." directly to camera, no franken-bites. She is overcome with gratitude and emotions at the outcome it seems.

This PI is just before she chooses?

 I think it may be after a FD, but I'm not sure who the FD was with or who she may be speaking of right at that moment.

Sure any of the F3 but she was at the galley bay and those are things she would have said right at the end.
Chris is also at the Galley bay contemplating his ring.
Therefore the closest  deduction is that she is talking about Chris. Just speculating by putting a sequence together.

ETA : I remember when that SC of Des was initially sleuthed to be at the Galley bay most here deducted that was where Brooks was staying and therefore it stood to reason that she was talking about him. Now we know from SC evidence that it is actually Chris staying there but the reasoning  has changed to 'oh it could be any of the F3'.
I find that funny.

And that would be LCD rather than FD.

spot on, Nd...i found it HILLARIOUS!!    
i may need to get myself out of this place before it explode at certain point