VO & PI's - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion

atem wrote:JBF You are talking about a VO that was said much later for all the leads compared to Brooks on a group date after only having one 1 on 1 date?  Makes no sense.

Gabriele that was directed to JBF.  That makes no sense what JBF is saying that Desiree is saying that Chris is her Final 1 guy and then say something like that to Chris H.  Why say you want to kiss another man over your 'husband'?

The PI from Desiree about Chris were all about her protecting her heart more than love/passion for him.

murasaki1393 wrote:

atem wrote:JBF You are talking about a VO that was said much later for all the leads compared to Brooks on a group date after only having one 1 on 1 date?  Makes no sense.

Gabriele that was directed to JBF.  That makes no sense what JBF is saying that Desiree is saying that Chris is her Final 1 guy and then say something like that to Chris H.  Why say you want to kiss another man over your 'husband'?

The PI from Desiree about Chris were all about her protecting her heart more than love/passion for him.

I believe Em mentioned something similar about Arie kiss to CH also, and CH teased her blush, just as he did on Des (on Ep.4 or 3, if im not mistaken). and  i swear i heard her gushing about Arie as the best kisser, like a thousand times (way2 over her dear hubby Jef). So, yes,i learned my lesson. after Em season,  i dont put too much stock about the kissing thing  . but then, its just me

JBF wrote:If she is as equally confident with Brooks in Madeira, than fasten your seatbelts. Jason Mesnick Bachlorette style is a-happening. Sean was careful with his lines... well, maybe not in the fantasy suite with AshLee... by saying he saw qualities in each contestant that he saw in a wife. Also all of these leads say they "can" see a future with each contestant.

During Brooks date, she does ask "can it get any better than this?" At the time, I thought this definitely proved he was F1 since Ben said "Is it too good to be true?" with Courtney. Yet both Desiree and Ben are describing a situation rather than the person. Granted, Ben later answers himself with a "yes" in the finale (even if viewers were scratching their heads as he bent down to give Courtney her ring). Ali asked if Roberto was too good to be true and she answered herself in the above quote.

Like I joked, she could have been drinking too much Munich beer. I don't want to just say "I think the spoilers are wrong" since I wasn't a fly on the wall at the final rose ceremony. I will suggest that Desiree is not afraid of practical jokes (i.e. fake boyfriends on hometown dates) and we did have a rap video with the guys playing "roles" (which neither Brooks nor Chris attended by the way)... and supposedly Chris and Brooks were friendly enough that I don't think one will be in a state of rage if not chosen. Not sure about Drew or somebody else if he somehow factors late in the game and discovers the final two were "in on a deception".

sfrank wrote:
This very cool but it sounds a little like apples and oranges....you're comparing two first 1 on 1 dates with a second 1 on 1 date , a FD, and a HTD which are further along in the process. I am sure I've heard leads make assertions about a lot of the guys being "the one" early on.  I will put a pin on this post and save it for later episodes

That's how I am. Try not to dispute the spoilers too much initially, but notice the puzzle pieces that don't fit just in case there's a "gotcha" at the end of this. I mean... how many of us here would be upset if she picks Brooks... or Chris? It is not like these guys are at war with each other and one is "not here for the right reasons" (*drink*)

nd4reality wrote:I thought that when the  lead talks about `I can see him as my husband`(eg BenF) or `He is husband material`(Sean) etc. that is the kiss of death. Similarly male leads have been known to say something about wife etc. - in previous seasons it means that they are talking in general terms.

Did she do any PIs about Brooks in the last 2 episodes. I don`t remember.

Could someone do a breakdown (perhaps in episode 7 because both Chris and Brooks would have their second 1on1 dates by that time) of only the PIs that Des has said about each of them. That would make it clearer and perhaps more fairly distributed.

brittany4400 wrote:

JBF wrote:If she is as equally confident with Brooks in Madeira, than fasten your seatbelts. Jason Mesnick Bachlorette style is a-happening. Sean was careful with his lines... well, maybe not in the fantasy suite with AshLee... by saying he saw qualities in each contestant that he saw in a wife. Also all of these leads say they "can" see a future with each contestant.

During Brooks date, she does ask "can it get any better than this?" At the time, I thought this definitely proved he was F1 since Ben said "Is it too good to be true?" with Courtney. Yet both Desiree and Ben are describing a situation rather than the person. Granted, Ben later answers himself with a "yes" in the finale (even if viewers were scratching their heads as he bent down to give Courtney her ring). Ali asked if Roberto was too good to be true and she answered herself in the above quote.

Like I joked, she could have been drinking too much Munich beer. I don't want to just say "I think the spoilers are wrong" since I wasn't a fly on the wall at the final rose ceremony. I will suggest that Desiree is not afraid of practical jokes (i.e. fake boyfriends on hometown dates) and we did have a rap video with the guys playing "roles" (which neither Brooks nor Chris attended by the way)... and supposedly Chris and Brooks were friendly enough that I don't think one will be in a state of rage if not chosen. Not sure about Drew or somebody else if he somehow factors late in the game and discovers the final two were "in on a deception".

sfrank wrote:
This very cool but it sounds a little like apples and oranges....you're comparing two first 1 on 1 dates with a second 1 on 1 date , a FD, and a HTD which are further along in the process. I am sure I've heard leads make assertions about a lot of the guys being "the one" early on.  I will put a pin on this post and save it for later episodes

That's how I am. Try not to dispute the spoilers too much initially, but notice the puzzle pieces that don't fit just in case there's a "gotcha" at the end of this. I mean... how many of us here would be upset if she picks Brooks... or Chris? It is not like these guys are at war with each other and one is "not here for the right reasons" (*drink*)

I love the speculation, snark, spoilers, and everything else that goes on in this forum! I do agree that chris and brooks are friends and they both so far seem to be sincere about des, so hopefully no matter the out come we can be happy for the final couple and and supportive of the f2!

JBF wrote:If she is as equally confident with Brooks in Madeira, than fasten your seatbelts. Jason Mesnick Bachlorette style is a-happening. Sean was careful with his lines... well, maybe not in the fantasy suite with AshLee... by saying he saw qualities in each contestant that he saw in a wife. Also all of these leads say they "can" see a future with each contestant.

During Brooks date, she does ask "can it get any better than this?" At the time, I thought this definitely proved he was F1 since Ben said "Is it too good to be true?" with Courtney. Yet both Desiree and Ben are describing a situation rather than the person. Granted, Ben later answers himself with a "yes" in the finale (even if viewers were scratching their heads as he bent down to give Courtney her ring). Ali asked if Roberto was too good to be true and she answered herself in the above quote.

Like I joked, she could have been drinking too much Munich beer. I don't want to just say "I think the spoilers are wrong" since I wasn't a fly on the wall at the final rose ceremony. I will suggest that Desiree is not afraid of practical jokes (i.e. fake boyfriends on hometown dates) and we did have a rap video with the guys playing "roles" (which neither Brooks nor Chris attended by the way)... and supposedly Chris and Brooks were friendly enough that I don't think one will be in a state of rage if not chosen. Not sure about Drew or somebody else if he somehow factors late in the game and discovers the final two were "in on a deception".

sfrank wrote:
This very cool but it sounds a little like apples and oranges....you're comparing two first 1 on 1 dates with a second 1 on 1 date , a FD, and a HTD which are further along in the process. I am sure I've heard leads make assertions about a lot of the guys being "the one" early on.  I will put a pin on this post and save it for later episodes

That's how I am. Try not to dispute the spoilers too much initially, but notice the puzzle pieces that don't fit just in case there's a "gotcha" at the end of this. I mean... how many of us here would be upset if she picks Brooks... or Chris? It is not like these guys are at war with each other and one is "not here for the right reasons" (*drink*)

atem wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

atem wrote:JBF You are talking about a VO that was said much later for all the leads compared to Brooks on a group date after only having one 1 on 1 date?  Makes no sense.

Gabriele that was directed to JBF.  That makes no sense what JBF is saying that Desiree is saying that Chris is her Final 1 guy and then say something like that to Chris H.  Why say you want to kiss another man over your 'husband'?

The PI from Desiree about Chris were all about her protecting her heart more than love/passion for him.

I believe Em mentioned something similar about Arie kiss to CH also, and CH teased her blush, just as he did on Des (on Ep.4 or 3, if im not mistaken). and  i swear i heard her gushing about Arie as the best kisser, like a thousand times (way2 over her dear hubby Jef). So, yes,i learned my lesson. after Em season,  i dont put too much stock about the kissing thing  . but then, its just me

I don't either. But, please pay attention as to why Desiree said she wanted to kiss him!  It's not due being the hottest kisser.  It's due to how far along their relationship is compared to others.  Desiree always mentions that Brooks 'brings out the best in me'.  That tells me he challenges her to do things or look at things differently.  Hardly sounds like just a 'physical/chemistry' thing that Arie and Emily had.

nd4reality wrote:I thought that when the  lead talks about `I can see him as my husband`(eg BenF) or `He is husband material`(Sean) etc. that is the kiss of death. Similarly male leads have been known to say something about wife etc. - in previous seasons it means that they are talking in general terms.

Did she do any PIs about Brooks in the last 2 episodes. I don`t remember.

Could someone do a breakdown (perhaps in episode 7 because both Chris and Brooks would have their second 1on1 dates by that time) of only the PIs that Des has said about each of them. That would make it clearer and perhaps more fairly distributed.

relaxing wrote:

atem wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

atem wrote:JBF You are talking about a VO that was said much later for all the leads compared to Brooks on a group date after only having one 1 on 1 date?  Makes no sense.

Gabriele that was directed to JBF.  That makes no sense what JBF is saying that Desiree is saying that Chris is her Final 1 guy and then say something like that to Chris H.  Why say you want to kiss another man over your 'husband'?

The PI from Desiree about Chris were all about her protecting her heart more than love/passion for him.

I believe Em mentioned something similar about Arie kiss to CH also, and CH teased her blush, just as he did on Des (on Ep.4 or 3, if im not mistaken). and  i swear i heard her gushing about Arie as the best kisser, like a thousand times (way2 over her dear hubby Jef). So, yes,i learned my lesson. after Em season,  i dont put too much stock about the kissing thing  . but then, its just me

I don't either. But, please pay attention as to why Desiree said she wanted to kiss him!  It's not due being the hottest kisser.  It's due to how far along their relationship is compared to others.  Desiree always mentions that Brooks 'brings out the best in me'.  That tells me he challenges her to do things or look at things differently.  Hardly sounds like just a 'physical/chemistry' thing that Arie and Emily had.

I think maybe they're trying to give Brooks and Des a chemistry edit to create some doubt but I don't buy it at all.  From their first date it was obvious there was physical chemistry, an emotional connection, great conversation and like minded life views.  Even the bits of talking we've been shown since still show that even if they are trying to hide it.  I think they connect on all levels and that's why it's so obvious - def not just physical but that is what CHis trying to spin based on his last blog. Grasping at straws to create doubt in my mind.  brooks is such a thoughtful, communicative guy that I don't see that edit working with him.

nd4reality wrote:

JBF wrote:If she is as equally confident with Brooks in Madeira, than fasten your seatbelts. Jason Mesnick Bachlorette style is a-happening. Sean was careful with his lines... well, maybe not in the fantasy suite with AshLee... by saying he saw qualities in each contestant that he saw in a wife. Also all of these leads say they "can" see a future with each contestant.

During Brooks date, she does ask "can it get any better than this?" At the time, I thought this definitely proved he was F1 since Ben said "Is it too good to be true?" with Courtney. Yet both Desiree and Ben are describing a situation rather than the person. Granted, Ben later answers himself with a "yes" in the finale (even if viewers were scratching their heads as he bent down to give Courtney her ring). Ali asked if Roberto was too good to be true and she answered herself in the above quote.

Like I joked, she could have been drinking too much Munich beer. I don't want to just say "I think the spoilers are wrong" since I wasn't a fly on the wall at the final rose ceremony. I will suggest that Desiree is not afraid of practical jokes (i.e. fake boyfriends on hometown dates) and we did have a rap video with the guys playing "roles" (which neither Brooks nor Chris attended by the way)... and supposedly Chris and Brooks were friendly enough that I don't think one will be in a state of rage if not chosen. Not sure about Drew or somebody else if he somehow factors late in the game and discovers the final two were "in on a deception".

sfrank wrote:
This very cool but it sounds a little like apples and oranges....you're comparing two first 1 on 1 dates with a second 1 on 1 date , a FD, and a HTD which are further along in the process. I am sure I've heard leads make assertions about a lot of the guys being "the one" early on.  I will put a pin on this post and save it for later episodes

That's how I am. Try not to dispute the spoilers too much initially, but notice the puzzle pieces that don't fit just in case there's a "gotcha" at the end of this. I mean... how many of us here would be upset if she picks Brooks... or Chris? It is not like these guys are at war with each other and one is "not here for the right reasons" (*drink*)

Please don`t stop !!! By keeping the spoilers on the backburner it is more interesting to `read`the edit, namely why certain PIs and VOs are placed in certain situations and why the rest fall on the cutting floor.