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Gina wrote:Yes, Captain, and since the AFRC is open to the public, leaks are coming out. Maybe a friend of RS is even going, who knows? I'm surprised it's not a closed set, not that it means anything, I guess. No way it's not going to get leaked.

Which tends to make me believe there is no real shocker coming. JMO

Gina wrote:Yes, Captain, and since the AFRC is open to the public, leaks are coming out. Maybe a friend of RS is even going, who knows? I'm surprised it's not a closed set, not that it means anything, I guess. No way it's not going to get leaked.

Exactly. Sorry if my tone sounded mocking Fleurdesel, I didn't mean it that way. But in the decade the Bachelor has been broadcast they haven't sued a single soul. Not even a blabbering contest like Rego or Greaseball Wes, nor a unwilling post Bachelor who refuses to do publicity, contract be damned, like Travis Stork. Suing people is expensive and this is just a TV show. The NDA is just a tool to frighten and completely unenforceable against an average citizen. I've signed NDA's but they were about important stuff like computer technology and software worth million, perhaps billions. That's another matter. Apple is obsessive about secrecy and make any developer, which I am registered as one, sign an NDA for advanced software. But it all leaks straight out onto the Internet and no one gets sued. We just have this come up every year and, forgive an old fogey, it gets tiring.

I was wondering why we hadn't heard anything from the MTA. SO looking forward to some scoop.!!

happyvalleygirl wrote:I was wondering why we hadn't heard anything from the MTA. SO looking forward to some scoop.!!

Maybe there wasn't anything to scoop, meaning so surprises. I don't think Bentley was going to be there and the guys don't usually get into it like the ladies have done in the past.

Barbarossa wrote:

Gina wrote:Yes, Captain, and since the AFRC is open to the public, leaks are coming out. Maybe a friend of RS is even going, who knows? I'm surprised it's not a closed set, not that it means anything, I guess. No way it's not going to get leaked.

Exactly. Sorry if my tone sounded mocking Fleurdesel, I didn't mean it that way. But in the decade the Bachelor has been broadcast they haven't sued a single soul. Not even a blabbering contest like Rego or Greaseball Wes, nor a unwilling post Bachelor who refuses to do publicity, contract be damned, like Travis Stork. Suing people is expensive and this is just a TV show. The NDA is just a tool to frighten and completely unenforceable against an average citizen. I've signed NDA's but they were about important stuff like computer technology and software worth million, perhaps billions. That's another matter. Apple is obsessive about secrecy and make any developer, which I am registered as one, sign an NDA for advanced software. But it all leaks straight out onto the Internet and no one gets sued. We just have this come up every year and, forgive an old fogey, it gets tiring.

I know you did not!!! We are friends on another board and I always appreciate your "direct" point of views, LOL

MaggieMae wrote:

happyvalleygirl wrote:I was wondering why we hadn't heard anything from the MTA. SO looking forward to some scoop.!!

Maybe there wasn't anything to scoop, meaning so surprises. I don't think Bentley was going to be there and the guys don't usually get into it like the ladies have done in the past.

In the past haven't they showed the final episode at the end of the MTA???

happyvalleygirl wrote:

MaggieMae wrote:

happyvalleygirl wrote:I was wondering why we hadn't heard anything from the MTA. SO looking forward to some scoop.!!

Maybe there wasn't anything to scoop, meaning so surprises. I don't think Bentley was going to be there and the guys don't usually get into it like the ladies have done in the past.

In the past haven't they showed the final episode at the end of the MTA???

For some reason I was thinking they show the F3 episode but not the finale. I thought that when ATFR wasn't a closed set they showed the finale there, and that's how some of the leaks got out. I am just going off memory from my very early days of reading the spoilers so I could be wrong!

Not to bring Fiji man up again. I want to put this to rest and gain some type of cloture. So here it goes...

He knew Ben was either the F1 or F2. I am thinking now as strange as it might seem that he saw Ben purpose and maybe thought she said yes. Then he found out that JP was the one she would marry and not Ben hence his change in who the F1 would be. He said Ben was at the Westin and it turns out that was true. So were JP and Ashley at some point. He did get a couple of things right, but missed the most important thing of actually knowing the outcome. Oh well it all worked out and isn't worth discussing anymore.


I just wanted to post one last thing about it because I think it is always best to keep an opened mind about certain things until the truth is known whenever that might be.

Love_Me wrote:Not to bring Fiji man up again. I want to put this to rest and gain some type of cloture. So here it goes...

He knew Ben was either the F1 or F2. I am thinking now as strange as it might seem that he saw Ben purpose and maybe thought she said yes. Then he found out that JP was the one she would marry and not Ben hence his change in who the F1 would be. He said Ben was at the Westin and it turns out that was true. So were JP and Ashley at some point. He did get a couple of things right, but missed the most important thing of actually knowing the outcome. Oh well it all worked out and isn't worth discussing anymore.


I just wanted to post one last thing about it because I think it is always best to keep an opened mind about certain things until the truth is known whenever that might be.

Love, you put yourself out there and posted what you were able to glean from what you sleuthed out...and you did it with integrity. You always told us you weren't sure if Fijiman understood the premise of the show and that's where I think his information fell short. As he understood and learned more, it became clear that his story was changing. I'm not sure what happened to Fijiman in the end, as he was completely contradicting what he was saying from one person to the next. It seems possible that someone from production got a hold of him and scared him. He did give us some good information, even though he initially missed who was the F1.

I agree with you that it is good to keep an open mind...although I sure wasn't able to do that this season. JP had me at cupcake on night one. Even though I tried, I just couldn't see "it" with anyone else...including the "B" word. Now we know that was all a smokescreen to hide the smoldering fire that started to slowly burn very early on with JP and Ashley. Just love those two. :awesome:

Love_me, What beeleever said, exactly. And Fijiman nailed the Westin and I believe the island that JP and Ashley went to for 4 days after the FRC. I think the double proposal through him for a loop. He also was right in "she made it up with Ben", I believe that's when Ben left and she ran up to 'make up with Ben" is what FM meant.

Was he a grip, a boat driver, or some other type of Figi employee that enabled him to be at Vomo? I think yes he was. But not knowing how the show worked and the language barrier, it came out all mixed up.

Then TPTB got ahold of him, and he started to try and intentional mislead, like saying JP had hair, etc., and other silly things, but that was late and not when you first contacted him. And you did alot of hard work to get things out of him, and put it on here for us to discuss and it was a lot of fun doing it for sure.

And the main thing is, you are always kind to everyone, you respect all of us and we respect you and San so very much for being the high caliber of ladies that you both are, simply the very best. Thanks for all you do and never apologize. Maybe you'll meet another FM next season and we will all have fun with his/her info again, because that's what we do. Can't wait for the ride to begin again.

Love_Me wrote:Not to bring Fiji man up again. I want to put this to rest and gain some type of cloture. So here it goes...

He knew Ben was either the F1 or F2. I am thinking now as strange as it might seem that he saw Ben purpose and maybe thought she said yes. Then he found out that JP was the one she would marry and not Ben hence his change in who the F1 would be. He said Ben was at the Westin and it turns out that was true. So were JP and Ashley at some point. He did get a couple of things right, but missed the most important thing of actually knowing the outcome. Oh well it all worked out and isn't worth discussing anymore.


I just wanted to post one last thing about it because I think it is always best to keep an opened mind about certain things until the truth is known whenever that might be.

I was thinking about Fiji man yesterday...his she "make it up with Ben" has me thinking that it was a faked proposal & ending and Ben was in on it, but who know...

DMBFan wrote:

Love_Me wrote:Not to bring Fiji man up again. I want to put this to rest and gain some type of cloture. So here it goes...

He knew Ben was either the F1 or F2. I am thinking now as strange as it might seem that he saw Ben purpose and maybe thought she said yes. Then he found out that JP was the one she would marry and not Ben hence his change in who the F1 would be. He said Ben was at the Westin and it turns out that was true. So were JP and Ashley at some point. He did get a couple of things right, but missed the most important thing of actually knowing the outcome. Oh well it all worked out and isn't worth discussing anymore.


I just wanted to post one last thing about it because I think it is always best to keep an opened mind about certain things until the truth is known whenever that might be.

I was thinking about Fiji man yesterday...his she "make it up with Ben" has me thinking that it was a faked proposal & ending and Ben was in on it, but who know...

I thought Ben sounded too bitter for him to be in on it. Especially when he told Ashley that JP's a wonderful guy and he's sure they'll have a nice life together. He still sounded bitter at times to me at the ATFR, too.