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Post by Shelby Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:07 pm

do you really thing that they would show upo just a couple hours to dress up before the taping???

naaaa everything is script and they are not tv pro so they would need preparations on tp of repeating the Q&A with CH!!


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Post by albean99 Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:14 pm

Maybe JP wanted to have more time to hang out with his buddies. They're all in town for the MTA filming so in a way it's more interesting that Ben wasn't there yesterday. Maybe it's him who has a safehouse meeting so isn't going to L.A. early to see the others. Just another alternative. :winkie:

Regarding Ben not being home to watch Ashley on the Lopez Live show. Maybe she asked him to wait to watch it with her. :awesome:

As you can see there are lots of alternative depending on your point of view and which outcome you prefer. :Nod:
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Post by emusha Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:21 pm

How come no sightings of the other guys though? F2 can't technically hang out with the other guys after the MTA...neither of the F2 can
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Post by cupcakes Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:25 pm

emusha wrote:How come no sightings of the other guys though? F2 can't technically hang out with the other guys after the MTA...neither of the F2 can

Blake was spotted at the LA airport yesterday.


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Post by Beeleever Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:26 pm

albean99 wrote:Maybe JP wanted to have more time to hang out with his buddies. They're all in town for the MTA filming so in a way it's more interesting that Ben wasn't there yesterday. Maybe it's him who has a safehouse meeting so isn't going to L.A. early to see the others. Just another alternative. :winkie:

Regarding Ben not being home to watch Ashley on the Lopez Live show. Maybe she asked him to wait to watch it with her. :awesome:

As you can see there are lots of alternative depending on your point of view and which outcome you prefer. :Nod:

Thanks albean! I do appreciate the respectful way you share your perspective. I have been in your shoes more seasons than I can remember, and know the feeling of rooting for the underdog. It helps me to read your insight to understand what you are seeing, as it is so different from what I am seeing. In the end, it is not a matter of who is right or who is wrong, it is the journey we experience along the way and sharing of ourselves. I am happy that the culture of the board has changed to one of respect and hopeful that it will continue.
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Post by albean99 Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:28 pm

emusha wrote:How come no sightings of the other guys though? F2 can't technically hang out with the other guys after the MTA...neither of the F2 can

For some reason I thought JP was seen with Ryan. I see now it's a different Ryan, laugh out loud.

Still odd that he'd be openly in L.A. Are we sure he's in the f2? :gotcha:
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Post by emusha Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:28 pm

When was JP hanging out with Ryan... I was just saying after the MTA none of the F2 have been sighted at any after parties -- it doesn't make much sense that they would be allowed to attend either if tptb are trying to keep things under wraps

ahh ok good to know blake was spotted - thanks CC -- I always wonder how people with 9-5 jobs make being involved in this show a hobby ... that's a lot of leave time u gotta ask from work etc.

"hey boss, I'm going to be on TV can I take 3 weeks off ...I might need to take several 3 day weekends afterwards too...you're the best boss!" haha ...


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Post by ironcat Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:30 pm

emusha wrote:How come no sightings of the other guys though? F2 can't technically hang out with the other guys after the MTA...neither of the F2 can

Yes, you're correct. Neither JP or Ben are allowed to "hang out" with the other guys.

If the taping is Monday (probably in the PM), the earliest he probably needs to be there is Sunday. I'm sure all day Sunday (as well as early Monday) would be enough time to prep him for his 15 minutes, if he's F2, and to reshoot any PIs they need. Flying in Saturday night, or even Sunday morning (you make up time going west, so an 8AM flight from NY lands in LAX at 11AM) would have worked.

I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one, guys. Or in more common vernacular, "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck".

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Post by Shelby Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:32 pm

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Post by albean99 Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:35 pm

Beeleever wrote:
albean99 wrote:Maybe JP wanted to have more time to hang out with his buddies. They're all in town for the MTA filming so in a way it's more interesting that Ben wasn't there yesterday. Maybe it's him who has a safehouse meeting so isn't going to L.A. early to see the others. Just another alternative. :winkie:

Regarding Ben not being home to watch Ashley on the Lopez Live show. Maybe she asked him to wait to watch it with her. :awesome:

As you can see there are lots of alternative depending on your point of view and which outcome you prefer. :Nod:

Thanks albean! I do appreciate the respectful way you share your perspective. I have been in your shoes more seasons than I can remember, and know the feeling of rooting for the underdog. It helps me to read your insight to understand what you are seeing, as it is so different from what I am seeing. In the end, it is not a matter of who is right or who is wrong, it is the journey we experience along the way and sharing of ourselves. I am happy that the culture of the board has changed to one of respect and hopeful that it will continue.

Thanks, Beeleever. I know most think I'm in denial but really am not. I know which way the wind blows but doesn't mean I don't think there's an alternative that a lot aren't considering. I just don't think it's a done deal yet as far as the show goes. There's so much we don't know about edit and what we're actually going to see in the next episodes.

Maybe JP wants to take advantage of coming to L.A. for the weekend because he's being flown here anyway. He may not publicly hang out with the others but doesn't mean it won't happen. Lots of things that shouldn't happen seem to this season. It used to be they'd bring in the f2 to L.A. for the MTA/WTA taping but they wouldn't actually be on the show. Later seasons we've actually seen the f3 person partying with the others. I've always thought it strange that they didn't let the f2 come and hang out so it wouldn't be so obvious what happens. Maybe they're going to do it this year.


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Post by gurlbrit Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:48 pm

albean99 wrote:
emusha wrote:How come no sightings of the other guys though? F2 can't technically hang out with the other guys after the MTA...neither of the F2 can

For some reason I thought JP was seen with Ryan. I see now it's a different Ryan, laugh out loud.

Still odd that he'd be openly in L.A. Are we sure he's in the f2? :gotcha:

If he was seen at LAX then he's not really openly in LA, he's traveling through, if he's F3 then he has to be there for the MTA, if he's F1/F2 he has to be there for AFTR (which is being filmed on Monday).
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