Re: Episode 8 (HTD's) - 2/18 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Guest Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:13 am

Catheriine's HTD followed AshLee's immediately and the difference is so obvious. AshLee's was too intense and serious. Catherine's was fun but also had serious moments.

by **Sprite** Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:15 am

Archer23 wrote:IDK, I guess I see this differently from a lot of people, and I'm not bothered that Sean is so torn at this point. More than anything, I'm feeling like he was really thoughtful about this process -- open to all the women, and really considering whether they could fit into his life and he into theirs. Once he explained to Chris why he was wavering on Catherine, it actually made me respect his choices more.

Not that we would know from what they've shown us on screen, but they've obviously had discussions about her career goals and ambitions. Sean has talked a lot about wanting a smart woman, but I'm not sure if he ever saw himself ending up with an ambitious one. So it would be a very real and legitimate concern for him (a) whether Catherine was ready to potentially change her life around for a relationship and (b) whether he could see himself with a career girl instead of a potential SAHM. They are always so giddy around each other that I give him a lot of credit for being able to step back from that and really assess their potential future and the sacrifices they may both have to make.

I don't get the sense that he's in la-la land, thinking that the "next steps" beyond the show are going to be a piece of cake, and I like that. I like it a lot. I don't know if I remember seeing a Bachelor give such careful consideration to how the ladies might fit into his life and vice versa. It may not make for the best televised "love story," but it gives me a lot more confidence about the post-show relationship.

I guess I'm weird that way. :Smiley:

Thank you. I think this is a very interesting season to me because of that. Sean really seems to be putting a lot of thought into who would really be the best for him...in all aspects...chemistry, humour, intelligence, family, goals, spirituallity. The women who made it to the end are very different, yet they each have aspects that would make them a good choice in some way. I really do appriciate the effort he took and how respectful he has been to everyone. He seems to really care about all of them and I can only imagine how difficult it will be for him to eliminate the rest.

We know that on this show, things rarely work out happily ever after. Real life is hard and meeting under these circumstances can only make things more difficult, but I am more hopeful for Sean and Cat because of the genuine effort that went into this season. Time will tell. Hopefully, they will still be grinning from ear to ear at the AFTR.

Just one more thing I have to say. After last season, Sean's season has been a pleasure on the board. I have really enjoyed reading so many great posts tonight. I couldn't possibly comment on them all, but, I understand a like button is possibly in the works. It can't come soon enough!!!

by Guest Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:50 am

what a weird season this is turning out to be. i'm not really seeing sean in love with anyone because he is so in the moment everything changes so quickly for him. yeah, he likes Cat but she hasn't said she's falling in love with him and all the other women are at least falling. i think he's sent home the best 2 women last week and this week: lesley and des. and, next week ashlee gets the ax. i am not at all convinced he and Cat will last. they really are different and she doesn't sound very interested in marriage anytime soon. i can almost see a better match with lindsay because their family backgrounds seem more similar. sorry for the negativity. i'm just really disappointed after liking sean so much. thinking arranged marriages are more likely to work than this show. giggling

by Love_Me Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:27 am

You can find screencaps San and I made from the HTD's Episode here! More caps will be posted soon.

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Episode 8 (HTD's) - 2/18 - Bachelor 17 - Screencaps - No Discussion

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by ThankMeLater Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:57 am

gabriele wrote:what a weird season this is turning out to be. i'm not really seeing sean in love with anyone because he is so in the moment everything changes so quickly for him. yeah, he likes Cat but she hasn't said she's falling in love with him and all the other women are at least falling. i think he's sent home the best 2 women last week and this week: lesley and des. and, next week ashlee gets the ax. i am not at all convinced he and Cat will last. they really are different and she doesn't sound very interested in marriage anytime soon. i can almost see a better match with lindsay because their family backgrounds seem more similar. sorry for the negativity. i'm just really disappointed after liking sean so much. thinking arranged marriages are more likely to work than this show.

I agree with you Smiley

by CHO Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:38 am

mtnlvr55 wrote:
reason wrote:OMG my vcr did not tape the show I will not get to see it again please some one put up Sean anc cat portions please

Regarding Des's departure: I REALLY think that the letter at the FRC is from Des. I don't think he would have been upset if it was from his F1.
I don't know where to put this thought, but watching the "you are going to be sorry" etc from Des, I see her making one final attempt. (like Ali w/ Jake, Kacey with Ben, Reid with Jillian, etc Molly and Jason)

But didn't the letter say something about "after meeting your family" ... so it would have to be from one of the final 2 ?

by RealityEscape Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:54 am

jcrbil wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
RealityEscape wrote:Just got back on instead of bed - cuz saw Sean's tweet too that said his pick is Incredible. That's the clarity we need. She has more depth - not just wanting the white picket fence. That's a challenge and a lifetime that's interesting. Doesn't want to ever let her go. Hope she feels that way about him too long term. Haven't totally figured out yet how much depth Sean has - they over-produce him.

And Lesley's in Seattle - very cool!! Didn't know that. Sean's should be done with his tweeting obligation soon. Wonder if that means when the "phone" rings Lesley will have a clear answer if doesn't already know the end already.

Where was this? I just checked his entire thread.

I actually think he was saying that Des is an incredible woman- but not his wife.

Crud - I was reading twitter on the phone and didn't see the last part about Not My Wife. He said "She (Des) was great but I'm choosing the one who's best for me. Incredible woman.
but not my wife. So if you read it without the "but not my wife" you can see where I'm coming from, as wrong as it was.

Other notes on poster comments -
The Philippines is a majority Catholic country and take their religion very seriously. Their celebrations are long and fun for religious holidays - so yes, probably is some religion in the family but was surprised the producers emphasized it - sort of a long shot like they emphasized Des's brother's tatoos. And it seemss unlikely that Des wrote the letter because it mentionss Meeting your parents" according to our sleuthers, unless the "your" is "my" somehow (see poster above beat me to this). I sure hope they give us more reason to believe Catherine is the right one for Sean other than surface stuff. I can see where she might be -- they just aren't showing it.

by NCGalBecca Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:10 am

I actually liked the realism in Catherine's date as I think most family's would be quite skeptical of the process and her Mom's wait and see attitude was very understandable. However, I was kind of taken aback at how frank her sisters were about Catherine and her dating habits, i.e. that it sounded like she had relationships that she enters into quickly and ends just as quickly and called her a moody person. Like they were trying to warn him away or something instead of grilling Sean (in a nicer way than Des' brother) about his background and lifestyle. Maybe they were testing his reactions to what they were saying? I found that segment to be odd. It appears Sean found it odd, too, as he says in his blog today:

..meeting Catherine's family was pretty intimidating! They seemed skeptical about me and I'm not sure they believed that this could work. Her sisters also told me that Catherine had a strong desire to pursue a career in New York and that she may not be ready to settle down. I found it strange that they were telling me this, yet Catherine had never mentioned it. I'm all for supporting her dreams, but I wished she'd shared those dreams with me. I left Seattle knowing that I had a desire to be with Catherine, but just wasn't sure if our lives aligned.

Yet when you read CH blog - his spin is

Sean left Seattle feeling great about Catherine but not exactly feeling great about the family’s feelings towards him. That would obviously weigh heavily on his final decision during the rose ceremony.

by mandmmom2 Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:43 am

Maybe Catherine did have a desire to pursue her career in NY but now that she found the love of her life that desire has changed. This is what happened to me. My priorities changed. My desires changed. My dreams changed...without me realizing it for a while.

by veg_out Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:50 am

NCGalBecca wrote:I actually liked the realism in Catherine's date as I think most family's would be quite skeptical of the process and her Mom's wait and see attitude was very understandable. However, I was kind of taken aback at how frank her sisters were about Catherine and her dating habits, i.e. that it sounded like she had relationships that she enters into quickly and ends just as quickly and called her a moody person. Like they were trying to warn him away or something instead of grilling Sean (in a nicer way than Des' brother) about his background and lifestyle. Maybe they were testing his reactions to what they were saying? I found that segment to be odd. It appears Sean found it odd, too, as he says in his blog today:

..meeting Catherine's family was pretty intimidating! They seemed skeptical about me and I'm not sure they believed that this could work. Her sisters also told me that Catherine had a strong desire to pursue a career in New York and that she may not be ready to settle down. I found it strange that they were telling me this, yet Catherine had never mentioned it. I'm all for supporting her dreams, but I wished she'd shared those dreams with me. I left Seattle knowing that I had a desire to be with Catherine, but just wasn't sure if our lives aligned.

Yet when you read CH blog - his spin is
Sean left Seattle feeling great about Catherine but not exactly feeling great about the family’s feelings towards him. That would obviously weigh heavily on his final decision during the rose ceremony.

I agree with you, Becca. I was also surprised that they left in Cat's "curses" if they even were said. The moody quote, including that Cat swings from being really "up" to then being really "focused", was a concern for me. Why are they leaving these things in the show???? I think Sean would want consistency but maybe the adrenaline junkie in him likes the euphoria of their relationship.

If Cat wants to ultimately be in NYC, will Sean move there? If I were Sean, I'd have paused too, wondering if the lives could blend.

If Sean takes DWTS, it would make sense rather than having either of them moving to the other.

I still think that Des was his best fit. I do expect choppy waters for them until the end, including his family preferring Lindsay.

by coloured123 Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:51 am

Does anyone have a compilation of what that letter says? My eyes can only make out 'memorable' and 'meeting' haha

by Laurabadora14 Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:13 pm

coloured123 wrote:Does anyone have a compilation of what that letter says? My eyes can only make out 'memorable' and 'meeting' haha

They've been working on it in one of the sleuthing threads and have gotten alot of it. I can't remember which thread though.

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