Episode 6 - 2/05 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

Love_Me wrote:Sean said in ones of his recent interviews that he planned all the dates they go on this season. Not sure if he also picks out who goes on what dates. I would love to know the answer to that.

According to Shay, yes he does. And according to the latest Ali "spilling beans" as well.

gabriele wrote:thanks love. i'm not on twitter but maybe someone else can do so. i'll add some suggestions to it tomorrow.

Once we have a decent list let me know and I can send them the link or put a copy on my blog (not sure they can see a post here if not member?) as a few follow me.

HowSoonIsNow wrote:
Finally, isn't it part of the formula in these recent seasons that someone is cut (or leaves) midseason out of nowhere (i.e. not at a rose ceremony and not right after a date)? Ben's Casey S. Ali's Rated-R. Emily's Kalon. Ashley's Mickey. The reason for the cut or walk differs each time, but this mid-season plot-point is to be expected.

Why, yes, my darling! We were right on time for one! ;)

If I remember correctly, Sean said he gave the producers ideas for dates; they then plan them. It's as simple as them asking him, "Sean, what do you like to do in your off time?" and "Sean, what are some dream destinations?" and then they use that to plan the show. It's not Sean saying, "Let's do a polar bear plunge in Canada." Just like there's no way that Ali called up The Lion King show and set up her involvement. Producers do all the legwork for behind-the-scenes stuff. It takes months to plan, not a few weeks.

Did anyone notice that when Sean came in to see Tierra in the bed after the hypothermia thing, she was saying how cold she was and he said, "Bless your heart". As Emily knows (remember her use of it), this is Texas-speak for "You're an idiot, and I'm onto you". I totally believe that TPTB asked Sean to keep Tierra around. At this point Sean knows who the final girls are (and maybe the final one), so keeping Tierra and dumping Selma isn't a big deal. He knew Selma wasn't a final 4 contender anyway.

As for the others, I believe by final 4 Sean knows he's going to pick Catherine and he lets both Lesley and Ashlee go before Lindsay because he cares about them a lot and doesn't want them to have to go through that final rose mess. With Lindsay it's all physical and he doesn't feel as bad about bringing her to the RC. Of course, we'll see an edit that makes it look like it's a horse race to the end.

Next bachelorette ... Lesley would be great, but not sure if she'd want to do it. AshLee would be a big bore. The girl is way too intense. Selma would be hysterical, and the men would be lining up around the block to get a chance at her. I also suspect her quest for the spotlight is pretty strong ... Certainly stronger than the whole Muslim modesty thing. I believe that was an act. Des would be good, but she's just not that "romantic" a choice. She seems almost too normal for this kind of show.

All in all, I think the editing sucks this season and that we're really not getting a clear picture of what went on. I blame it on RS. Now that we all know who wins from the beginning, the producers are doing whatever they cn to muddy the waters.

Oh, and as far as Lindsay as the next Bette ... She drinks too much and she's not very smart. Would have no interest in seeing her in that role.

After watching the last few episodes.. I'd say that Cat, Lindsey and Ashlee are deep in the Bach Bubble... and Des has remained fairly level headed about the process. It makes total sense as to why she's let go after HTD.

northernviewer wrote:After watching the last few episodes.. I'd say that Cat, Lindsey and Ashlee are deep in the Bach Bubble... and Des has remained fairly level headed about the process. It makes total sense as to why she's let go after HTD.

Kwpn12 wrote:Did anyone notice that when Sean came in to see Tierra in the bed after the hypothermia thing, she was saying how cold she was and he said, "Bless your heart". As Emily knows (remember her use of it), this is Texas-speak for "You're an idiot, and I'm onto you". I totally believe that TPTB asked Sean to keep Tierra around. At this point Sean knows who the final girls are (and maybe the final one), so keeping Tierra and dumping Selma isn't a big deal. He knew Selma wasn't a final 4 contender anyway.

As for the others, I believe by final 4 Sean knows he's going to pick Catherine and he lets both Lesley and Ashlee go before Lindsay because he cares about them a lot and doesn't want them to have to go through that final rose mess. With Lindsay it's all physical and he doesn't feel as bad about bringing her to the RC. Of course, we'll see an edit that makes it look like it's a horse race to the end.

Next bachelorette ... Lesley would be great, but not sure if she'd want to do it. AshLee would be a big bore. The girl is way too intense. Selma would be hysterical, and the men would be lining up around the block to get a chance at her. I also suspect her quest for the spotlight is pretty strong ... Certainly stronger than the whole Muslim modesty thing. I believe that was an act. Des would be good, but she's just not that "romantic" a choice. She seems almost too normal for this kind of show.

All in all, I think the editing sucks this season and that we're really not getting a clear picture of what went on. I blame it on RS. Now that we all know who wins from the beginning, the producers are doing whatever they cn to muddy the waters.

Kwpn12, this just cracked me up!

Sean sees Tierra's hypochondria instead of the hypothermia, he now gets the manufactured drama, and he must feel like a total goofball for drinkin' that kool-aid...

In terms of the next 'ette, what a dilemma: reported F2 is pretty ditsy/tipsy, F3 is intense and might not translate into sparkle 'n' sparks, and F4 is too much the girl next door. Selma would be like Michelle Money - fun but unpredictable. But really funny. I would watch, for sure - an antidote to insipid saccharine... But Meet the Parents would be a disaster, if it ever happened... Do I hear more support for Lesley? Does that work for TPTB?

Looking forward to more Catherine, which I think will only happen at HTDs.

As for what happens with Des, I think we have a big clue: Isn't it Des' bf shows up at the HTD and makes Sean fist-clenching mad? Maybe Sean doesn't want any competition whatsoever, and there are others who have no such known complications. I can't imagine that scene went well for Des.

Oh, I miss the days of real sleuthing...PDG and luggage screenshots... Tennis shoes coming out of a taxi... Moles and watches... Feel free to add to the list...

in2deep wrote:
... Isn't it Des' bf shows up at the HTD and makes Sean fist-clenching mad?

That's just a prank Des plays on Sean to pay him back for their first date

Kwpn12 wrote:Did anyone notice that when Sean came in to see Tierra in the bed after the hypothermia thing, she was saying how cold she was and he said, "Bless your heart". As Emily knows (remember her use of it), this is Texas-speak for "You're an idiot, and I'm onto you". I totally believe that TPTB asked Sean to keep Tierra around. At this point Sean knows who the final girls are (and maybe the final one), so keeping Tierra and dumping Selma isn't a big deal. He knew Selma wasn't a final 4 contender anyway.

As for the others, I believe by final 4 Sean knows he's going to pick Catherine and he lets both Lesley and Ashlee go before Lindsay because he cares about them a lot and doesn't want them to have to go through that final rose mess. With Lindsay it's all physical and he doesn't feel as bad about bringing her to the RC. Of course, we'll see an edit that makes it look like it's a horse race to the end.

Next bachelorette ... Lesley would be great, but not sure if she'd want to do it. AshLee would be a big bore. The girl is way too intense. Selma would be hysterical, and the men would be lining up around the block to get a chance at her. I also suspect her quest for the spotlight is pretty strong ... Certainly stronger than the whole Muslim modesty thing. I believe that was an act. Des would be good, but she's just not that "romantic" a choice. She seems almost too normal for this kind of show.

All in all, I think the editing sucks this season and that we're really not getting a clear picture of what went on. I blame it on RS. Now that we all know who wins from the beginning, the producers are doing whatever they cn to muddy the waters.

Then Texas must have a different outlook on what those words means, as we others in the South don't take that "Bless your heart" as meaning you're an idiot at all. We take it as we feel for them. I was shocked when I heard what Texas thought when saying those words. ; ( NO knock at anybody here!

sophienette wrote:

in2deep wrote:
... Isn't it Des' bf shows up at the HTD and makes Sean fist-clenching mad?

That's just a prank Des plays on Sean to pay him back for their first date

Ah. Duh. Was it Amanda who pranked Brad?

in2deep wrote:

sophienette wrote:

in2deep wrote:
... Isn't it Des' bf shows up at the HTD and makes Sean fist-clenching mad?

That's just a prank Des plays on Sean to pay him back for their first date

Ah. Duh. Was it Amanda who pranked Brad?

Amanda pranked Matt Grant. She hired actors to play her parents. The "mother" came on to Matt.