The Bachelor 17 - Speculation/Spoilers - Discussion

Love_Me wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:With a few exceptions, it's usually the winner that gets one of the last 1:1s but I don't think we have any evidence that Catherine received it (but I think that she did).

Was JP the only F1 who didn't have a 1-on-1 date before the HTD's were filmed?

happyvalleygirl wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:With a few exceptions, it's usually the winner that gets one of the last 1:1s but I don't think we have any evidence that Catherine received it (but I think that she did).

Was JP the only F1 who didn't have a 1-on-1 date before the HTD's were filmed?

JP had a 1on1 in Hong Kong, right??

happyvalleygirl wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:With a few exceptions, it's usually the winner that gets one of the last 1:1s but I don't think we have any evidence that Catherine received it (but I think that she did).

Was JP the only F1 who didn't have a 1-on-1 date before the HTD's were filmed?

JP had a 1on1 in Hong Kong, right??

Sable wrote:

happyvalleygirl wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:With a few exceptions, it's usually the winner that gets one of the last 1:1s but I don't think we have any evidence that Catherine received it (but I think that she did).

Was JP the only F1 who didn't have a 1-on-1 date before the HTD's were filmed?

JP had a 1on1 in Hong Kong, right??

JP also had a 1 on 1 with Ashley earlier in the season. Wasn't it the day or right around when Bentley left? JP just went over to Ashley's house and she had on sweats/comfy clothes and her glasses. I also remember JP having a 1 on 1 later in the season, but I am not sure what location they were in when this took place.

happyvalleygirl wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:With a few exceptions, it's usually the winner that gets one of the last 1:1s but I don't think we have any evidence that Catherine received it (but I think that she did).

Was JP the only F1 who didn't have a 1-on-1 date before the HTD's were filmed?

JP had a 1on1 in Hong Kong, right??

-The biggest “jaw dropper” in that promo is the clip of Desiree answering the door at home, a guy comes in telling her that he loves her, her saying she doesn’t know what to do, and the guy and Sean kinda getting into it. Leading into that clip, you hear voiceovers of girls talking about “She said that there were other men,” and, “She has a boyfriend.” I can tell you now that the clip of Desiree is a complete mislead. That’s actually Desiree playing a prank on Sean (after he played one on her in their first date at the art gallery), and it’s just a friend of hers she asked to pretend he was an ex-bf and barge in to her hometown date. So no, Desiree does not have a boyfriend back home and that was all an act. Although, kinda sucks for her since she thought she was being funny and all, yet Sean sends her home after the hometown dates. Guess that kinda backfired. But of course once the promo aired, every news outlet wants to overreact and freak out and immediately think, “Ooooooohhhhhh, looks like someone has a boyfriend who comes and confronts Sean! What happened?!” Wrong.

-I do know that before filming started, both Katie and Amanda were seeing guys before they left and since returning, have reunited and are seeing them currently. So if I had to take a guess, I’d say the voice overs of the girls referencing someone having a “boyfriend” or “other men” are probably referencing Katie or Amanda. Or possibly someone else since we know most people who go on this show have a “stand by” back at home in case the show doesn’t work out. But Katie and Amanda are the only two that I know are currently with guys they were “seeing” before they left for filming.

-The clip of Tierra in a neckbrace at the mansion being attended to by paramedics did happen. She fell down the stairs and injured herself in episode 3 before Sean was about to have his 1-on-1 date with AshLee. However when you watch the promo, all while they’re showing Tierra being attended to, they’re running a voice over of a crying woman (Tierra) saying this:

“I can’t believe they did this to me…that is so messed up…seriously this is so stupid…I can’t be tortured like this…I hope the girls got what they wanted…”

Basically they want to make you think that someone pushed her down the stairs or this was a plot by the other women to injure her, which couldn’t be further from the truth. That voice over is from Tierra in St. Croix when she has her meltdown and leaves before the rose ceremony.

-It’s quite obvious Tierra is getting the villain edit this season and is the girl this season that “is here just for Sean and not here to make friends.” This is nothing new. EVERY season we have one of these people, and this season it happens to be Tierra. Words of advice Tierra: I suggest you go hide under your bed and don’t come out for the next 3 months, because this is certainly going to get worse before it gets better. I hope you have thick skin because you are going to be the one people talk about on Twitter and Facebook and message boards, pretty much like Courtney was. She can’t be thrilled about the edit she’s been given. Oh well. It’s what you signed up for.

-The final shot of Sean standing at the “altar” in Thailand confirms it took place at the Pa Sok Tong Villa just outside of Chiang Rai, Thailand if you match up the pictures.

-The best part of the promo is the shot of Sean in the water making out with someone as the sun sets behind them, yet there’s a monkey on the beach watching them. I didn’t realize monkeys were such voyeurs.

-Sean sure likes to dig his tongue into quite a few women this season. Well, at least the top four or so. A LOT of kissing clips throughout those 3 1/2 minutes. I guess that’s for those who think he doesn’t pick anyone, or find him boring.

-AshLee is definitely quite open with Sean and seems to make it known on more than one occasion how crazy she is about him. Probably the reason she was sent home.

-That’s what I can tell you about that promo for now. There’s plenty of voiceover clips of the Sean or the girls giving quick one-liners just to add drama, but those are impossible to pinpoint when it was said and what context they were in. Those are in there for dramatic effect and nothing else. They could be something, they could be nothing. We’ll have to wait for the show to start to find out. But just wanted to make sure I pointed out the two biggest lies that were portrayed in the promo.

AshLee is definitely quite open with Sean and seems to make it known on more than one occasion how crazy she is about him. Probably the reason she was sent home.

luvstx wrote:

happyvalleygirl wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:With a few exceptions, it's usually the winner that gets one of the last 1:1s but I don't think we have any evidence that Catherine received it (but I think that she did).

Was JP the only F1 who didn't have a 1-on-1 date before the HTD's were filmed?

JP had a 1on1 in Hong Kong, right??

I think maybe LoveMe was asking whether JP was the only F1 who didn't have a 1 on 1 date on the episode that immediately preceded the HTDs. Because everyone is right that JP had two 1 on 1s.

Ones that I can remember:
Jef - Prague (rolling on the library floor)
Courtney - Belize (Mayan Ruins)
JP - none
Emily - Anguilla (private island picnic)
Roberto - walking the streets of Lisbon
Vienna - I'd rather not remember ANYTHING about this season

NCGalBecca wrote:

AshLee is definitely quite open with Sean and seems to make it known on more than one occasion how crazy she is about him. Probably the reason she was sent home.

I beg to differ with RS on this point as I think Sean would appreciate a woman who is open and honest and to use his words "a woman that has no doubts" even if he doesn't feel the same way about her. I don't believe it would be seen as a negative as RS kind of implies. Unfortunately, it appears Sean didn't return those feelings and could be why she left at F3 - out of compassion but not because she expressed her feelings for him. I dread watching this goodbye for sure.

NCGalBecca wrote:

AshLee is definitely quite open with Sean and seems to make it known on more than one occasion how crazy she is about him. Probably the reason she was sent home.

I beg to differ with RS on this point as I think Sean would appreciate a woman who is open and honest and to use his words "a woman that has no doubts" even if he doesn't feel the same way about her. I don't believe it would be seen as a negative as RS kind of implies. Unfortunately, it appears Sean didn't return those feelings and could be why she left at F3 - out of compassion but not because she expressed her feelings for him. I dread watching this goodbye for sure.