The Bachelor 17 - Speculation/Spoilers - Discussion

Ocrazy wrote:

Longhornfan wrote:As a fan of Sean's, I want to wish Arie much success in his upcoming races, and I hope that all the comparisons between him and Sean will now end. Arie has stated that he has moved on from the Bachelor, having a clear direction for where he wants to take his life. Congratulations to him for having weathered the Fleiss machine and to have come out pretty much unscathed at the end.

Personally I would have rather seen Sean move on as well, since I don't trust Fleiss and company, and I would have supported Arie if he had been chosen. But it appears that Sean will be the next Bachelor, and not everyone is happy. I get that. But, I just hope that we can move past this and put to rest the debate as to who was the first, second or third choice. At this point it does not really matter. The choice has been made.

It is now up to each of us to decide whether or not we want to watch a season of Sean as the Bachelor. Some people have already said that they are going to pass, some are not sure, and some are saying that they will watch. I will watch and will support Sean. I will say, though, that I am nervous with what Fleiss and company can do to him with the edit and the cast of women that have for him. I don't trust them....NOT AT ALL.

But, having said that, I am hoping for the best possible outcome for Sean this season, and I think things will settle down here once the sleuthing can begin on this board. And it can't get here soon enough for me!!

I'm not too worried about Fleiss and Co. manipulating Sean. After three very successful seasons up until now, I think they would want to keep their momentum going... Break ups sell, but I think at this point, after many people doubting the Bachelor Formula, Fleiss will be happier with four genuinely successful couples in a row. So I think they will do anything to make it possible, of course with some stupid drama thrown in the mix as always, but not too much..

goodgal wrote:Ariejr would have KILLED to be the bachelor. It would have enhanced his career 100fold. He hasn't won a race in 10 years of any importance and his name until recently was only mentioned when in the same sentence as his father..go google. He really was not important in the racing world so he should Thank Emily for taking him to the the F2 position and giving him all the exposure. As stated by his father (again) the bachelorette show really helped bring Arie's name to the forefront. Nothing to be ashamed of as Jef also got alot of exposure due to being on the bachelorette show. I just don't agree with people saying Arie didn't want the bachelor show especially when he said several times he was open to the process and thought it worked and was waiting to hear something and didn't know. TPTB I think looked at several guys and went with the one THEY wanted. Sean Arie, Roberto and maybe someone else probably were very anxious to hear and Sean was it.

nutty1 wrote:The past 3 seasons have produced couples who are very much in love, and seem altar bound (eventually). I hope the streak continues for Sean this season!

chasingpavements wrote:

goodgal wrote:Ariejr would have KILLED to be the bachelor. It would have enhanced his career 100fold. He hasn't won a race in 10 years of any importance and his name until recently was only mentioned when in the same sentence as his father..go google. He really was not important in the racing world so he should Thank Emily for taking him to the the F2 position and giving him all the exposure. As stated by his father (again) the bachelorette show really helped bring Arie's name to the forefront. Nothing to be ashamed of as Jef also got alot of exposure due to being on the bachelorette show. I just don't agree with people saying Arie didn't want the bachelor show especially when he said several times he was open to the process and thought it worked and was waiting to hear something and didn't know. TPTB I think looked at several guys and went with the one THEY wanted. Sean Arie, Roberto and maybe someone else probably were very anxious to hear and Sean was it.

I agree - I don't think it's a point discussing because we are never going to get actual proof, but I have always felt (as a BIG Arie fan) that Arie wanted it, they led him to believe that he was a frontrunner, but they had always wanted Roberto or Sean (which is why RS was so confident of Arie not getting it). Everything that he said and his family said leads me to believe that he wanted it.

ja1968 wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:

goodgal wrote:Ariejr would have KILLED to be the bachelor. It would have enhanced his career 100fold. He hasn't won a race in 10 years of any importance and his name until recently was only mentioned when in the same sentence as his father..go google. He really was not important in the racing world so he should Thank Emily for taking him to the the F2 position and giving him all the exposure. As stated by his father (again) the bachelorette show really helped bring Arie's name to the forefront. Nothing to be ashamed of as Jef also got alot of exposure due to being on the bachelorette show. I just don't agree with people saying Arie didn't want the bachelor show especially when he said several times he was open to the process and thought it worked and was waiting to hear something and didn't know. TPTB I think looked at several guys and went with the one THEY wanted. Sean Arie, Roberto and maybe someone else probably were very anxious to hear and Sean was it.

I agree - I don't think it's a point discussing because we are never going to get actual proof, but I have always felt (as a BIG Arie fan) that Arie wanted it, they led him to believe that he was a frontrunner, but they had always wanted Roberto or Sean (which is why RS was so confident of Arie not getting it). Everything that he said and his family said leads me to believe that he wanted it.

He wanted it originally and got jerked around too much so decided to move on. He is obviously happy with HIS decision to let it go and do his thing. I do not think he wanted it as badly as some may believe he did. He is still getting the exposure he needs to further his career plans. He wants to leave the bach nation behind, who can blame him. Apparently they are not so willing to let him go.

northernviewer wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:

lavenderred wrote:

Arie Luyendyk Jr.: "I Passed on" Being the Next Bachelor

Entertainment September 21, 2012 AT 6:00PM By Allison Corneau

Arie Luyendyk, Jr. was dumped by Bachelorette Emily Maynard this spring on ABC, but the 30-year-old race car driver wasn't interested in getting a second shot at love as the network's next Bachelor.

"I passed on Bachelor this season, just to concentrate on racing," Luyendyk told Us Weekly at Thursday's Los Angeles Confidential Magazine Pre-Emmy party in West Hollywood. Intending to resume his career as a professional driver, the former reality TV contestant -- whose rejection of the spinoff gave way for Roberto Martinez and Sean Lowe to be considered -- credits his time on The Bachelorette with helping him refocus his priorities.

"I've moved on from the Bachelor franchise and I'm doing well. When I was in that environment, I gained a lot of clarity on what I wanted to do in life and for me it really made me just focus on my career when I got out," says Luyendyk. "That's my first love and I'm pursuing that right now."

That said, Maynard's ex -- who placed second on the May finale to Maynard's new fiance Jef Holm -- isn't shutting the door entirely on a future in television.

"I'll never say never. You just never know what the future can hold," he told Us. "I'm open to everything as long as it doesn't conflict with racing. Hopefully I won't be off the TV set for too long."

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JMO but RE is a good bachelor already. I mean who needs the machine?

I agree. People use this show for many reasons and I'm just glad that Arie chose to quite while he's ahead, so to speak. He's going out on a high, reputation intact AND he was the one to turn them down... just like Chris L did. This article also puts to bed all of RS's BS about Arie and whether or not tptb wanted him as first choice to be the lead. It was his to turn down, just as many of us suspected.

And I'm with all who think that Arie's chest is just fine Abs do not make the man, just the opposite in fact, as sometimes (I said sometimes, not always) it's an indication that the guy is a little to into himself.

Haven't decided if I'll waste my time with Sean. After Jake and Ben fiasco's, this show is becoming less and less attractive to me. I'm sick of vanilla!

Longhornfan wrote:As a fan of Sean's, I want to wish Arie much success in his upcoming races, and I hope that all the comparisons between him and Sean will now end. Arie has stated that he has moved on from the Bachelor, having a clear direction for where he wants to take his life. Congratulations to him for having weathered the Fleiss machine and to have come out pretty much unscathed at the end.

Personally I would have rather seen Sean move on as well, since I don't trust Fleiss and company, and I would have supported Arie if he had been chosen. But it appears that Sean will be the next Bachelor, and not everyone is happy. I get that. But, I just hope that we can move past this and put to rest the debate as to who was the first, second or third choice. At this point it does not really matter. The choice has been made.

It is now up to each of us to decide whether or not we want to watch a season of Sean as the Bachelor. Some people have already said that they are going to pass, some are not sure, and some are saying that they will watch. I will watch and will support Sean. I will say, though, that I am nervous with what Fleiss and company can do to him with the edit and the cast of women that have for him. I don't trust them....NOT AT ALL.

But, having said that, I am hoping for the best possible outcome for Sean this season, and I think things will settle down here once the sleuthing can begin on this board. And it can't get here soon enough for me!!

IrishGal wrote:How do you know he is willing? He has no choice as he is under contract for many months to come.