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Post by Guest Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:55 am

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Thomigirl wrote:
loveski wrote:I didn't watch Ali's season but I always hear remarks like "I hope it's Roberto if we get to see Ali's reaction." Is Ali generally disliked?

I can only speak for me, but I don't think she's disliked so much as Roberto has an amazing fan base. When they didn't work out I think people tended to speculate that Ali was the one with the issues (for the most part). These 2 seemed like one of the FEW couples that would truly make it to the altar.

As for Sean, as with all these contestants we as fans cannot truly speculate how they are IRL. Sean's edit and how he came across WAS very...'safe' (translation = stale). We've seen Roberto's interactions in and outside of the show and he appears to have WAY more personality. Could be Sean's edit, could be how he truly comes across but at the end of the day I would hope that TPTB won't gamble on having another stale lead - like Ben....Buuuut, you never know. Fleiss loves his puppets.

I think a problem that fans had was that she just became OBSESSED with becoming famous. And, the second that she and Roberto broke up, she sold the story to the tabloids. She just seems like she has changed from the girl she was during Jake's season(although, maybe she just seemed sweet and sincere in comparison to Vienna, haha). I've always just had a lot of respect for Roberto, as he never took advantage of his celebrity and only really took part in events, when they were related to charity. I think a lot of people see him as one of the few nice guys in the franchise, as NO ONE has said a bad thing about him (I can only think of a few other people like that like Chris L, Michael S, etc) and really seemed to want to find love and settle down.

LOL I never saw her as sweet and sincere during Jake's season. I thought she was a mean girl and didn't think she had any interest in settling down and getting married any time soon, so I wasn't happy when she was picked as the lead and I skipped her season. I ended up liking Roberto post-season despite being unable to warm up to her. I never in a million years thought they'd get married so I figured it was only a matter of time before he was free anyway. giggling To me she's always been exactly the same, wasn't a fan then and not a fan now.

I think Roberto would make a great lead but I'm hoping he doesn't do it because I don't trust Fleiss and don't want to see him chewed up and spit out by the tabloids. :Frown:

HAHA, I actually didn't even watch Jake's season (...because it was JAKE'S season, haha), but I just knew she was greatly liked during that season. I know that RS said that she had tried out for a reality show before then, also, so I knew that she was definitely in it for the fame and attention - but, I did think that Roberto and her would make it, honestly. Mostly, because Roberto seemed like SUCH a good guy and he seemed head over heels in love with her, and I didn't anyone was stupid enough to let someone who looks like THAT go.

As far as Roberto being lead goes, my only "concern" is that he's one of the few guys that I have managed to like throughout the years. Almost none of the "good" guys have managed to remain as good through their second go in the franchise, be it as a lead or on Bachelor Pad. Some examples include Reid, Michael Stag, Ben, etc. So, I'm definitely worried that fame will change him and/or that he will do things during the show that I don't respect.

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Post by Mustang19 Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:01 am

Thomigirl wrote:HA Mustang, I was typing as you were posting! giggling

giggling I like reading all opinions.

And, who am I kidding.. I will watch no matter who it is. I guess Cimcoe answered my question as to why I dislike her. I thought she was very good at hiding the fact that she was deep down a "mean girl". I thought she came across as sweet to some people, but I just thought she was fake, mean and self-centered. And the fact that she constantly posted self-portraits on twitter reminded me of someone I know like that IRL who I'm no fan of. She had no intention of getting married, and Roberto would have gotten married yesterday.

I hadn't thought of it like Jeepers said - insurance man vs. insurance man.
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:11 am

I don't know where to post, but I was wondering why the Emily/Jef threads suddenly went all gone? Aren't people posting there anymore?

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Post by Thomigirl Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:42 am

teamfrollie wrote:I don't know where to post, but I was wondering why the Emily/Jef threads suddenly went all gone? Aren't people posting there anymore?

They're in the couples forum. Making way for the next season.
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Post by Pattycake92 Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:48 am

From Wetpaint
As the rumor mill churns! Things are looking better and better for Team Sean — according to this report, at least. 

On August 31, Arie Luyendyk, Jr. announced he had chosen racing over romance, essentially taking his name out of any prospective running to be the Season 17 Bachelor. That led us to believe the strongest remaining candidates were Sean Lowe, also of The Bachelorette Season 8, and Roberto Martinez, The Bachelorette 6 "winner" whose name has been in the mix for months.

Well not so fast, says Ryan Seacrest and his radio show sources. Weirdly enough, Ryan's new report, posted September 4, takes Hottie Dimples out of the running (sob!) but keeps Arie on the list, along with Sean and a third unnamed option, which scares us more than anything. (No alarms and no surprises, please!)

Here’s Ryan’s Bachelor update:

"First we know it will definitely not be Roberto from Ali Fedotowsky's season of The Bachelorette, as it's been rumored before. I can reveal that they've narrowed it down to three options. There are three finalists. The man in charge of dishing out the highly coveted roses will either be Arie or Sean, who finished second and third respectively on the last Bachelorette, or they may go back to how they used to choose, it could be an unknown third guy. Either way the president of ABC himself will be involved in the decision."
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Post by albean99 Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:56 am

I don't have any problems with Ali and have no idea what broke them up. Sometimes things don't work no matter how much you try. I know it's popular to blame her but we don't know what went on in the relationship. Perhaps they're just incompatible. I didn't think Ali was a mean girl unless Tenley was also. They both had problems with Vienna and rightly so. I also thought Ali was a good Bachelorette and had the best f2. heartbeat

Having said that, I'd still prefer Roberto as the next Bachelor. I think he'll find how much harder it is to be lead over the f1 though. :Nod:

ETA: I wonder if Ryan Seacrest has any inside info or if this is more gossip. Any chance Arie could change his mind? Probably not but a girl can hope.


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Post by DeAnna/JenFan Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:02 am

albean99 wrote:I don't have any problems with Ali and have no idea what broke them up. Sometimes things don't work no matter how much you try. I know it's popular to blame her but we don't know what went on in the relationship. Perhaps they're just incompatible. I didn't think Ali was a mean girl unless Tenley was also. They both had problems with Vienna and rightly so. I also thought Ali was a good Bachelorette and had the best f2. heartbeat

Having said that, I'd still prefer Roberto as the next Bachelor. I think he'll find how much harder it is to be lead over the f1 though. :Nod:

ETA: I wonder if Ryan Seacrest has any inside info or if this is more gossip. Any chance Arie could change his mind? Probably not but a girl can hope.

Totally agree w/the bolded, albean! I was very sad when they broke up, but much better BEFORE the wedding than after. :yes: Sometimes love is not enough... :bigsigh:
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Post by tigertiz Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:10 am

Any chance Arie could change his mind? Probably not but a girl can hope.
I think ABC would have to agree to a very different shooting schedule than they had planned in order to accommodate Arie's racing schedule. I dont think they think they are flexible on that issue. If they started filming after the Atlanta race, rather than Mid September, they'd have to shoot right through Thanksgiving and hurry up to finish it before Christmas. There may have been significant insurance issues, given his revitalized racing career, and there may have also been sponsorship conflicts. Lots of complications to overcome. Insurmountable I suppose.
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Post by anders Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:17 am

so now Arie is completely out of the question?


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Post by DeAnna/JenFan Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:24 am

Any chance Arie could change his mind? Probably not but a girl can hope.


Glad to hear I'm not the only one clinging to a thread of hope......
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Post by tigertiz Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:27 am

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LOS ANGELES, Aug. 31, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- XYQ, Inc. announced today that professional race car driver, "The Bachelorette" finalist and NBC Sports analyst Arie Luyendyk Jr. WILL NOT participate in ABC's hit reality show "The Bachelor" this season in order to resume his career on the race track.

Luyendyk says his first priority has always been racing. "'The Bachelorette' was an amazing experience but I will not continue with 'The Bachelor'; ultimately I realized my heart is tied to the race track and my career is my main priority. I'm looking forward to getting back on the track," said Luyendyk. "I have built a great relationship with XYQ this season and am looking forward to working closely with them to achieve my goals."

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Arie's next race is the Petit LeMans where he will be driving with Townsend Bell's team. It's in mid October. It's not just up to Arie. ABC would have to accommodate his racing schedule, his sponsorship endorsement requirements, and be insurable as the Lead, etc etc. I imagine it's pretty ....complicated and they just couldnt do it.


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