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Post by Guest Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:42 pm

albean99 wrote:The reason I don't think Arie was the 3rd choice was because they knew they could market him so much better, the race car driver vs the insurance agent, plus he came alive on tv while Sean came across as a bit of a stiff. Arie could show his feelings while Sean hid them for the most part. They also had the drama of Arie being heartbroken and the f2. Roberto was probably the 1st choice because of popularity but more importantly the lawsuit.

The storyline on the show did have Arie as being the heartbroken F2 who could have another chance at finding true love by becoming the bachelor. The only thing that changed this is viewer reaction. Sean was the heartbroken F3 and people were upset that he was let go. At the MTA the crowd loved him, and if twitter is any indication of popularity than Sean is more popular than Arie. As has already been said Sean is the All-American former football player that the show likes to cast and that appeals to a wide range of viewers.

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Post by lolalou39 Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:44 pm

I agree gurlbrit! It's really sad that tabloids & bloggers & websites that just regurgitate what tabloids & bloggers write think nothing of the fact that these are real live people who are being ripped to shreds by their accusations.
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Post by albean99 Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:54 pm

Fascinator11 wrote:
albean99 wrote:The reason I don't think Arie was the 3rd choice was because they knew they could market him so much better, the race car driver vs the insurance agent, plus he came alive on tv while Sean came across as a bit of a stiff. Arie could show his feelings while Sean hid them for the most part. They also had the drama of Arie being heartbroken and the f2. Roberto was probably the 1st choice because of popularity but more importantly the lawsuit.

The storyline on the show did have Arie as being the heartbroken F2 who could have another chance at finding true love by becoming the bachelor. The only thing that changed this is viewer reaction. Sean was the heartbroken F3 and people were upset that he was let go. At the MTA the crowd loved him, and if twitter is any indication of popularity than Sean is more popular than Arie. As has already been said Sean is the All-American former football player that the show likes to cast and that appeals to a wide range of viewers.

Maybe but Arie gave enough hints that I believe he was in the mix until he pulled out. It's my opinion that Arie would have told Ben that he wasn't going to be TB when he had dinner with him if he knew then. If they wanted Sean at the MTA and nothing changed, he'd have been signed then or at least earlier.


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Post by pavalygurl Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:19 pm

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mnmhughes wrote:I don't see Sean as a default at all. It seems that TPTB have wanted Sean since the MTA when all the women were screaming for him. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

I agree totally! While I personally would pick Arie over Sean hands down, Sean has a very wide fan base and a seemingly squeaky clean past. He's the Republican candidate for bachelor [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] and appeals to all of those "return to family values" viewers.

I also agree its all about the bachelorettes they recruit. I don't mind crazy girls but I don't like manipulative and mean ones. Yes, yes Courtney & Ben seemingly fell in love for real but boy the fact that the producers made her the star of the show really ruined Ben's season for me. It was just too much Courtney and after those two skinny dipped together, may as well have ended the season right then & there.

And, let's not forget Roberto. I'd be happy with him too.


I think Sean appeals to a certain demographic Fleiss feels is important for ratings.

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Post by tigertiz Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:26 pm

If they wanted Sean at the MTA and nothing changed, he'd have been signed then or at least earlier.
For sure. There was no reason a Sean contract couldnt be all tied up with a bow weeks ago. Roberto too for that matter. I think Sean was the fallback. He's a nice guy too. He was just was boring on the show. Maybe he'd be different as the lead. You never know.
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Post by Guest Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:40 pm

dw_a_mom wrote:
tigertiz wrote:
jojo47 wrote:
Kimmy wrote:Thoughts? Not surprised. I've felt all along that Sean was their guy. He is bringing a huge fan base to the show, bland or not, in the age group that watches this show he is pretty popular.

I think Sean was the only guy in the running who was agreeing to the role without restrictions or resistance. That doesn't make him necessarily MF's #1 choice. In fact, I think he was third in line behind Roberto & Arie. And if Lochte was ever seriously in the running (VERY DOUBTFUL), Sean would've been fourth in line.

But Sean is the guy who will be the next Bachelor. And MF will make it seem like he's a great choice, regardless of where he fell in the recruiting process. That's his job.
Unfortunately I think Sean is the default Bachelor.

I can't say if he was first, second or third choice, but CH and the crowd certainly seemed enthusiastic about the idea of having him as a TB candidate at the MTA.

That's how it appeared to my eyes/ears as well...?

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:42 pm

albean99 wrote:
alsoaktchr wrote:Albean, what did S say about EO?? tia

The first tweet below is Emily's reply to Sean's tweet about the homeless man, alsoaktchr. The rest are in order. Even before the last ones I think she was ticked off at Sean's tweet but was being a good sport. I don't think there's any love lost between them. He's really getting on my nerves too. :Nod:

DrDremily ‏@DrDremily
Ugh not true!!! It was a Meineke.
@SeanLowe09: Just saw @DrDremily making out with a homeless man behind a Jiffy Lube."

DrDremily ‏@DrDremily
Already in withdrawal from @kacielynnb @TheOverAnalyst @JackieGordon @GrahamBunn @DaveLGood ... But glad to finally be away from @SeanLowe09


29 Aug Sean Lowe ‏@SeanLowe09
@DrDremily Your insults are clearly your way of showing affection. It's common among people with severe insecurities.


29 Aug DrDremily ‏@DrDremily
@SeanLowe09 Thank you for the diagnosis, Dr. Third Place

29 Aug Sean Lowe ‏@SeanLowe09
@DrDremily ouch! Really hitting below the belt with that one!


DW, they really seemed to want Ames at Ashley's MTA until Ben was f2 and heartbroken.

Thx. for bringing those over. Don't quite know what to make of them...hmmm...

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:43 pm

lolalou39 wrote:As an Arie fan (he's my hometown boy!) and PR professional, it was a clever PR ploy to mention the Bachelor/Bachelorette reference in the press release announcing Arie's sponsors and return to racing for the added PR picks ups it will get him. The release never blatantly says that he was offered the role, just implies it. And, when another Bachelor is announced, Arie's camp struck first and got the message out there that Arie turned ABC down for his racing career whether true or not.

I say good for Arie. Isn't this the entire reason why he went on the show? To expand his fan base and his career options? Surely no one thinks Arie can't find a girlfriend the good old fashioned way and needs the Bachelor to do it?


I'm curious as to whether they had approval (or even should have had it) from TPTB...?

ETA ooops sorry for back to back posts... :-(

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Post by dw_a_mom Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:54 pm

alsoaktchr wrote:
albean99 wrote:
alsoaktchr wrote:Albean, what did S say about EO?? tia

The first tweet below is Emily's reply to Sean's tweet about the homeless man, alsoaktchr. The rest are in order. Even before the last ones I think she was ticked off at Sean's tweet but was being a good sport. I don't think there's any love lost between them. He's really getting on my nerves too. :Nod:

DrDremily ‏@DrDremily
Ugh not true!!! It was a Meineke.
@SeanLowe09: Just saw @DrDremily making out with a homeless man behind a Jiffy Lube."

DrDremily ‏@DrDremily
Already in withdrawal from @kacielynnb @TheOverAnalyst @JackieGordon @GrahamBunn @DaveLGood ... But glad to finally be away from @SeanLowe09


29 Aug Sean Lowe ‏@SeanLowe09
@DrDremily Your insults are clearly your way of showing affection. It's common among people with severe insecurities.


29 Aug DrDremily ‏@DrDremily
@SeanLowe09 Thank you for the diagnosis, Dr. Third Place

29 Aug Sean Lowe ‏@SeanLowe09
@DrDremily ouch! Really hitting below the belt with that one!


DW, they really seemed to want Ames at Ashley's MTA until Ben was f2 and heartbroken.

Thx. for bringing those over. Don't quite know what to make of them...hmmm...

I don't, either.

I'll just fall back to remembering how I don't get in the least the negative way my daughter and her friends "joke" with each other and wonder how much of that could be at play ...

Serious issue trying to decipher interchanges between people we've never even met!



Just give me something that looks like a real love story to help me escape into my own version of fantasy for a while. And maybe against the odds one of those stories will actually survive real life. Nothing wrong with a little hope, right?
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Post by dw_a_mom Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:57 pm

officeRules wrote:In my opinion there is no default. Unless of course the Bachelor begins production, begins filming, meets his ladies then trips over the accent table of doom and accidently burns his hands in the circular art deco fire-pit (a la Survivor) and has to be airlifted out by Kalon's rented chopper.

They call in the last-minute pinch hitter, who is THEN the identifiable default.

Until that happens, the Bachelor is the Bachelor. Meant to be...

Totally agree


Just give me something that looks like a real love story to help me escape into my own version of fantasy for a while. And maybe against the odds one of those stories will actually survive real life. Nothing wrong with a little hope, right?
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Post by dw_a_mom Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:58 pm

lolalou39 wrote:As an Arie fan (he's my hometown boy!) and PR professional, it was a clever PR ploy to mention the Bachelor/Bachelorette reference in the press release announcing Arie's sponsors and return to racing for the added PR picks ups it will get him. The release never blatantly says that he was offered the role, just implies it. And, when another Bachelor is announced, Arie's camp struck first and got the message out there that Arie turned ABC down for his racing career whether true or not.

I say good for Arie. Isn't this the entire reason why he went on the show? To expand his fan base and his career options? Surely no one thinks Arie can't find a girlfriend the good old fashioned way and needs the Bachelor to do it?


Love your post. I say good for him, too!


Just give me something that looks like a real love story to help me escape into my own version of fantasy for a while. And maybe against the odds one of those stories will actually survive real life. Nothing wrong with a little hope, right?
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