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kate- you've got him pegged to a T.
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kate123 wrote:eightfifteen wrote:RS has enough reason to say for absolute certain it's not Arie. How solid is this info about Roberto's supposed girlfriend? I don't know, I think it's Sean and it's been a done deal for a while.
Thank goodness Millsy put an end to that Lochte mess.
If you're trusting that RS knows what he's talking about then he said he was 100 percent sure it was Roberto, not Sean, who was the next Bachelor. Until yesterday, he was still sure it was Roberto, not Sean. Now, he's qualified it by saying if it isn't Roberto, then it will be Sean. And if and when we find out Sean turned them down (which I think his tweet might indicate), suddenly RS will take his third swipe at the ball and say if it isn't Sean, it's Arie. And then he'll convince us that he knew it was Arie all along, but he was the victim of some scurrilous misinformation. Because when he's wrong, he never owns up to it.
I think Arie attending the Pump Foundation dinner is telling, esp since Ali and Roberto attended a few years ago. If the ticket from that dinner had come from any other source besides ABC, he would have tweeted about it ahead of time or thanked the source of the ticket afterwards. It came from ABC. Now, why send a guy who isn't interested in stick and ball sports when you have a guy like Sean who played D1 football and is a huge sports fan? I think Arie was in town that day to talk about doing the show. I think, after Sean's meeting was leaked, they had their meeting with Arie outside the office and whoever is feeding info to RS wasn't privy to that. RS still thinks it's Sean because Sean was the last one seen having a meeting.
I think BlondieGal has given us the same info. First it was Roberto, then Roberto and Sean and now all three are under consideration.
It's what I've been saying all along - I think RS had good information/sources, but it's OLD information and he refuses to believe that things might have changed.
He even said in his last blog that he didn't know about Roberto/Chelsea until his readers told him - that tells me how up to date he is with Bachelor insider info.
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chasingpavements wrote:kate123 wrote:eightfifteen wrote:RS has enough reason to say for absolute certain it's not Arie. How solid is this info about Roberto's supposed girlfriend? I don't know, I think it's Sean and it's been a done deal for a while.
Thank goodness Millsy put an end to that Lochte mess.
If you're trusting that RS knows what he's talking about then he said he was 100 percent sure it was Roberto, not Sean, who was the next Bachelor. Until yesterday, he was still sure it was Roberto, not Sean. Now, he's qualified it by saying if it isn't Roberto, then it will be Sean. And if and when we find out Sean turned them down (which I think his tweet might indicate), suddenly RS will take his third swipe at the ball and say if it isn't Sean, it's Arie. And then he'll convince us that he knew it was Arie all along, but he was the victim of some scurrilous misinformation. Because when he's wrong, he never owns up to it.
I think Arie attending the Pump Foundation dinner is telling, esp since Ali and Roberto attended a few years ago. If the ticket from that dinner had come from any other source besides ABC, he would have tweeted about it ahead of time or thanked the source of the ticket afterwards. It came from ABC. Now, why send a guy who isn't interested in stick and ball sports when you have a guy like Sean who played D1 football and is a huge sports fan? I think Arie was in town that day to talk about doing the show. I think, after Sean's meeting was leaked, they had their meeting with Arie outside the office and whoever is feeding info to RS wasn't privy to that. RS still thinks it's Sean because Sean was the last one seen having a meeting.
I think BlondieGal has given us the same info. First it was Roberto, then Roberto and Sean and now all three are under consideration.
It's what I've been saying all along - I think RS had good information/sources, but it's OLD information and he refuses to believe that things might have changed.
He even said in his last blog that he didn't know about Roberto/Chelsea until his readers told him - that tells me how up to date he is with Bachelor insider info.
It's been at least a month since Chelsea's friend (Tenley?) mentioned that Roberto probably wouldn't be The Bachelor. Since then there have been rumors that he has a new girlfriend. And then, we got confirmation of that with the joint vacation. And RS didn't know anything about that, or if someone did tell him, he didn't believe it. So you're absolutely right. He's operating on old information. I think the info on Sean is old as well. They did interview Sean early on and may have been seriously talking to him as well, but RS seems to think that those talks somehow got a lot further on than any talks with Arie. RS has admitted that Arie was interviewed, but that's all he's admitted to when it comes to Arie. IMO, once it looked like Roberto wasn't going to sign, they would have looked seriously at both Arie and Sean, especially considering how popular they both were.
It's quite evident that RS is not out looking for info on the next bachelor. He's sitting on his butt and waiting for people to call him. And because of it, he's missing a lot of stuff.
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I think Kate is right. RS doesnt care. He'll still get ink on wetpaint which will give him more hits on his website. At this point, he thinks he doesnt have to do more. But eventually, being a slacker will catch up with him. He thinks you cant spoil anything without insider scoop. That faucet has largely turned off for him. He's becoming a sloppy gossip blogger - minus the actual inside scoop that the successful gossip bloggers have.It's quite evident that RS is not out looking for info on the next bachelor. He's sitting on his butt and waiting for people to call him. And because of it, he's missing a lot of stuff.
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tigertiz wrote:I think Kate is right. RS doesnt care. He'll still get ink on wetpaint which will give him more hits on his website. At this point, he thinks he doesnt have to do more. But eventually, being a slacker will catch up with him. He thinks you cant spoil anything without insider scoop. That faucet has largely turned off for him. He's becoming a sloppy gossip blogger - minus the actual inside scoop that the successful gossip bloggers have.It's quite evident that RS is not out looking for info on the next bachelor. He's sitting on his butt and waiting for people to call him. And because of it, he's missing a lot of stuff.
You are both very right on this. imo.
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Isn't "sitting on his butt waiting for people to call him" how RS has always operated? And then when the calls stopped coming so regularly these last few seasons, and since he had already established expectations from his "fans" that he'd have scoop, he started offering money to get the same info that used to come to him for free? I don't think RS ever "sleuthed" as is done on this board (meaning putting together clues, interpreting comments, digging for "evidence"); in fact, he ridicules it, and us, because he claims to not need to waste his time and effort to do so, since he is important enough to have "sources" that just tell him things. Whether he actually does have sources telling him that it's not Arie, and whether they are reliable, is the question here. I agree that the reasons he has apparently elaborated so far prove nothing, and most likely reflect things his supposed "sources" have told him as to why Arie wouldn't do it. But is there something more definitive that he's not sharing because it would compromise where the info came from, and that's why he's so sure? Or is his arrogance getting in the way, because he believes he's established enough of a reputation as "the Spoiler King" that his occasional missteps will be overlooked, and he can backtrack his way out of them enough so that the tabs will continue to listen to him anyway?
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ironcat wrote:Isn't "sitting on his butt waiting for people to call him" how RS has always operated? And then when the calls stopped coming so regularly these last few seasons, and since he had already established expectations from his "fans" that he'd have scoop, he started offering money to get the same info that used to come to him for free? I don't think RS ever "sleuthed" as is done on this board (meaning putting together clues, interpreting comments, digging for "evidence"); in fact, he ridicules it, and us, because he claims to not need to waste his time and effort to do so, since he is important enough to have "sources" that just tell him things. Whether he actually does have sources telling him that it's not Arie, and whether they are reliable, is the question here. I agree that the reasons he has apparently elaborated so far prove nothing, and most likely reflect things his supposed "sources" have told him as to why Arie wouldn't do it. But is there something more definitive that he's not sharing because it would compromise where the info came from, and that's why he's so sure? Or is his arrogance getting in the way, because he believes he's established enough of a reputation as "the Spoiler King" that his occasional missteps will be overlooked, and he can backtrack his way out of them enough so that the tabs will continue to listen to him anyway?
RS did used to brag about sources coming to him with all the info he had. I tend to believe that his sources are drying up. We will see how much information he will come up with and how soon for the next season.
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While Steve is never going to say it straight up on his website, and why should he really, the reality is probably that the lawsuit resolution (and Erica Rose aftermath) has shut him down permanently as a web destination for reading about what happened when cameras were rolling. He is going back to commentating, not spoiling, bit by bit, I suspect. I don't think we will be reading anything at his site ever again that can only have originated with cast or crew, or someone subject to a confidentiality agreement (hotel staff, etc). And with the crowd-sourcing opportunities abounding on Twitter and Instagram, maybe it was doomed to be a short-lived pastime anyway.
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ironcat wrote:Isn't "sitting on his butt waiting for people to call him" how RS has always operated? And then when the calls stopped coming so regularly these last few seasons, and since he had already established expectations from his "fans" that he'd have scoop, he started offering money to get the same info that used to come to him for free? I don't think RS ever "sleuthed" as is done on this board (meaning putting together clues, interpreting comments, digging for "evidence"); in fact, he ridicules it, and us, because he claims to not need to waste his time and effort to do so, since he is important enough to have "sources" that just tell him things. Whether he actually does have sources telling him that it's not Arie, and whether they are reliable, is the question here. I agree that the reasons he has apparently elaborated so far prove nothing, and most likely reflect things his supposed "sources" have told him as to why Arie wouldn't do it. But is there something more definitive that he's not sharing because it would compromise where the info came from, and that's why he's so sure? Or is his arrogance getting in the way, because he believes he's established enough of a reputation as "the Spoiler King" that his occasional missteps will be overlooked, and he can backtrack his way out of them enough so that the tabs will continue to listen to him anyway?
Really, how difficult is it to look at Roberto's twitter and facebook page and check what's going on? I don't even consider that sleuthing, that's checking a source. He missed a huge, huge scoop because he was too arrogant (or lazy) to bother looking. Since he supposedly has all these inside sources, once he saw Tenley's (?) post about Roberto, he should have suspected something was up. He supposedly "knows" these people. As for Arie, he has given himself an out there. He's said that he will be shocked if it is Arie, so he's not willing to put anything on the line for his claim that it will never be Arie.
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Can someone explain to me, why when a potential candidate has not been asked or has turned down TB can they not say it? Contract?
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Some radio station(s) in Texas seems to be saying this morning that Sean is the next bachelor. Rumor or truth to be determined.
kphageman 9:40am via Twitter for iPhone
Heard on the radio that Roberto denied bachelor, and Sean has confirmed #rumor #chooseme @Jfromtheburb @TaylorrJanney @c_e_curtis
priceallie4 9:41am via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Just heard Sean is the new bachelor, hope this is true!!!! Eeeeek!!!
Jo_Wright7 11:06am via Twitter for iPhone
I heard on the radio that @SeanLowe09 is going to be The Bachelor. Where can I sign up?
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kate123 wrote:
Really, how difficult is it to look at Roberto's twitter and facebook page and check what's going on? I don't even consider that sleuthing, that's checking a source. He missed a huge, huge scoop because he was too arrogant (or lazy) to bother looking. Since he supposedly has all these inside sources, once he saw Tenley's (?) post about Roberto, he should have suspected something was up. He supposedly "knows" these people. As for Arie, he has given himself an out there. He's said that he will be shocked if it is Arie, so he's not willing to put anything on the line for his claim that it will never be Arie.
I think RS wants to quit active involvement but wants the site to keep going. I'm watching to see if he tries harder to promote the reviews of other shows on his site. If he does that, or pulls in an assistant for TB, it will be a sign he's phasing himself out. Not that I expect this to happen tomorrow, but will anyone still be talking about RS in 2 years? Doubtful.
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