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Post by anders Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:21 pm

nutty1 wrote:
nd4reality wrote:I got the same thing from this article which is :

Only 1 guy at the FRC.

What made you think that? I know other people said it too, I don't know why though.

ditto that.....was the article supposed to say - but first she sends someone home broken hearted.....that's CH's job..... Hugesmile


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Post by sopearl Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:22 pm

If Emily didn't want the ring, think the jeweler who donated it for publicity would have a problem with that?

I don't think this magazine is a reliable source of detailed information.
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Post by Archer23 Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:22 pm

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nutty1 wrote:
nd4reality wrote:I got the same thing from this article which is :

Only 1 guy at the FRC.

What made you think that? I know other people said it too, I don't know why though.
Probably because the article (or at least the summary of the article) only mentioned the proposal. IIRC, these articles usually have details about the F2 rejection. I think that was how we learned last season that Lindzi made Ben re-do his rejection of her. It's certainly possible that there's more to the story, and it's just not discussed in this article, of course.

When the info about Roberto and Ali's FRC came out in that magazine, the F2 departure was not mentioned then too right?
No idea. I checked out of her season around Episode 6 and missed all the during-show and post-show coverage.
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Post by Iluvbachette Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:29 pm

I think the f2 was let go previously. Just like Ali did. Which I totally feel is the right thing to do. Over the years people have said it is heartbreaking to let one go, then you have to turn around and be happy. I never liked that at all.

I have always thought it would be better to let some guys go at the htd. Why pay the expense of having them fly back just for the rc. After all the f1 doesn't see the other guys anyway.

As far as the ring goes. MF stated that Neil Lane better bring his "A" game. To me that meant his more expensive rings. Does that surprise me. Not in the least. He has gotten his money's worth from the show after all these seasons.

MF also knows this is a season he needed to redeem the show in the public's eyes. So he'd be going all out. JMO

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Post by anders Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:30 pm

goodgal wrote:Does Emily keep the ring after the FRC? I assumed ABC kept it until AFRC. Seems like several in the past were shown getting the ring back and putting it on their finger?

correct, she has to give it back until the AFRC.


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Post by jlccaz Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:52 pm

seton wrote:You know, I dont understand the outrage people feel over how others spend THEIR money.

You mean corporate money (production company, ABC). I'm not outraged. I think it's an hypocrisy. And a missed opportunity to make point. We all know these TV engagements are a fallacy in that even the happiest of couples post filming needs to START a relationship.
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Post by jlccaz Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:59 pm

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lapcoffee wrote:Just have to chime in here to say that, yes, Emily's ring might be incredibly expensive but Jef's business is a for profit one, running on similar principles as many other new buy-give back initiatives like Tom's shoes. Sure, it is great that money is going to building wells in Africa but let us not forget that he makes quite a bit of money off of this at the same time. Just finding the ring, well comparisons odd.

It is not shocking that Emily wants an exquisite ring.

Lots of people make great money. I commend him for at least doing his part....it is more than a lot of people do.

There is literally no indication that Jef "gives money". He works for a company he helped to found thatin an abstract sense raises money in the sense that some corporate revenues are diverted to digging wells. Corporate revenues are plowed back into growing a start up, not distributed to owners. Founders/Owners get stock, stock options, and some salary. I have no clue what any People Water individuals do with their income, nor does anyone here. Growing a start up beverage company, particularly in the bottled water space, is very very difficult. I doubt they have ANY profit that isn't plowed back into the highly intensive capital undertaking of launching a distribution network. Launching a new national brand is very very expensive, requiring many rounds of financing. Jef isn't getting rich off PW at this stage. He is a founder in a start up that they all hope "pops" in a material way in an over crowded market place.

Is it a gimmick to price your water product so that you can use the expensive biodegradableplastics, and shift portion of proceeds to well building? Not necessarily. But as some have pointed out in this very thread right now, it is ultimately a business plan.

If you want to see something WICKED cool in the Do-Good beverage space, check out Not For Sale (anti trafficking group)upcoming launch of REBBL tea. One of the coolest things I've ever been privy too.

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Post by anders Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:00 pm

but do they actually pay Neil (I wanna to say Diamond) Lane? I thought it was either a cut rate or free due to the advertizing...


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Post by jlccaz Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:02 pm

anders wrote:but do they actually pay Neil (I wanna to say Diamond) Lane? I thought it was either a cut rate or free due to the advertizing...

The symbolism stands regardless. It's over.the.top.
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Post by anders Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:04 pm

jlccaz wrote:
anders wrote:but do they actually pay Neil (I wanna to say Diamond) Lane? I thought it was either a cut rate or free due to the advertizing...

The symbolism stands regardless. It's over.the.top.

I absolutely agree - I was actually curious about if he gets paid at all.....


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Post by Guest Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:04 pm

michelle1109 wrote:We definitely know the guy in the airport was Jef because he posted of pic with his mom in SC on June 1 and there was a tweet from someone stating Jef was on his/her flight to or from Charlotte. I can't remember which, but recall the tweet.

I thought he drove to SC to see his parents and was spotted in NC because he had to drive through there. I don't remember it being in the airport but I could be wrong. But I thought he did that trip after memorial weekend. Didnt San confirm that the weekend of the 30th was a safe house weekend so the article coincides with that no? Wasnt Arie ant Indy and Sean at a wedding that weekend anyway?

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Post by nutty1 Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:04 pm

jlccaz wrote:
nutty1 wrote:
lapcoffee wrote:Just have to chime in here to say that, yes, Emily's ring might be incredibly expensive but Jef's business is a for profit one, running on similar principles as many other new buy-give back initiatives like Tom's shoes. Sure, it is great that money is going to building wells in Africa but let us not forget that he makes quite a bit of money off of this at the same time. Just finding the ring, well comparisons odd.

It is not shocking that Emily wants an exquisite ring.

Lots of people make great money. I commend him for at least doing his part....it is more than a lot of people do.

There is literally no indication that Jef "gives money". He works for a company he helped to found thatin an abstract sense raises money in the sense that some corporate revenues are diverted to digging wells. Corporate revenues are plowed back into growing a start up, not distributed to owners. Founders/Owners get stock, stock options, and some salary. I have no clue what any People Water individuals do with their income, nor does anyone here. Growing a start up beverage company, particularly in the bottled water space, is very very difficult. I doubt they have ANY profit that isn't plowed back into the highly intensive capital undertaking of launching a distribution network. Launching a new national brand is very very expensive, requiring many rounds of financing. Jef isn't getting rich off PW at this stage. He is a founder in a start up that they all hope "pops" in a material way in an over crowded market place.

Is it a gimmick to price your water product so that you can use the expensive biodegradableplastics, and shift portion of proceeds to well building? Not necessarily. But as some have pointed out in this very thread right now, it is ultimately a business plan.

If you want to see something WICKED cool in the Do-Good beverage space, check out Not For Sale (anti trafficking group)upcoming launch of REBBL tea. One of the coolest things I've ever been privy too.


I totally understand it is business strategy. But I still maintain at least something good is coming of it.
What is REBBL? I am working now (shouldn't even be typing this)...no time to research now.


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