Bachelor 26 - Clayton Echard - Mar 8 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

goodgolly wrote:Anyone else feel like that was a set up? He looks terrible after it- she looks like a bouquet of roses...
His "falling in love with 3 women" is crap. Really? 2 is one thing...3 ..No!

I feel like this whole season was a set up. It started as soon as they met Clayton and realized what a gullible, easily manipulated duffus he was. Perfect patsy.

goodgolly wrote:Does anyone see Susie coming back after that?

If she does, I won’t believe it

southerngirlatheart wrote:Anybody else convinced that the only reason Susie was “convinced to stay” was because she was promised she would be bachelorette if she did? They may have even told her to decline his proposal for an extra special shot at getting the spot!

When was Susie "convinced to stay"? Do we know she stayed?
If so, then definitely plausible.

Sprite wrote:

goodgolly wrote:Anyone else feel like that was a set up? He looks terrible after it- she looks like a bouquet of roses...
His "falling in love with 3 women" is crap. Really? 2 is one thing...3 ..No!

I feel like this whole season was a set up. It started as soon as they met Clayton and realized what a gullible, easily manipulated duffus he was. Perfect patsy.

Just curious…

Do you have any empathy for him? I realize he doesn’t always handle things well but he got lousy advice before signing on. And he’s human. I’d do no better

goodgolly wrote:

southerngirlatheart wrote:Anybody else convinced that the only reason Susie was “convinced to stay” was because she was promised she would be bachelorette if she did? They may have even told her to decline his proposal for an extra special shot at getting the spot!

When was Susie "convinced to stay"? Do we know she stayed?
If so, then definitely plausible.

According to RS, she is convinced to stay and gets proposed to at the FRC but turns him down….

southerngirlatheart wrote:

goodgolly wrote:

southerngirlatheart wrote:Anybody else convinced that the only reason Susie was “convinced to stay” was because she was promised she would be bachelorette if she did? They may have even told her to decline his proposal for an extra special shot at getting the spot!

When was Susie "convinced to stay"? Do we know she stayed?
If so, then definitely plausible.

According to RS, she is convinced to stay and gets proposed to at the FRC but turns him down….

I believed it when I read that today…

But after watching his reaction tonight and her lack of tears,I don’t believe it at all

I think he and Rachel may have reconciled as I think she really loves him and would eventually be able to forgive him

luvstx wrote:

southerngirlatheart wrote:

goodgolly wrote:

southerngirlatheart wrote:Anybody else convinced that the only reason Susie was “convinced to stay” was because she was promised she would be bachelorette if she did? They may have even told her to decline his proposal for an extra special shot at getting the spot!

When was Susie "convinced to stay"? Do we know she stayed?
If so, then definitely plausible.

According to RS, she is convinced to stay and gets proposed to at the FRC but turns him down….

I believed it when I read that today…

But after watching his reaction tonight and her lack of tears,I don’t believe it at all

What do you think actually happens?

After what happened tonight, I feel like that’s exactly what is going to happen! It’s going to look stupid as hell, but …

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] see above. Could be Rachel coming back

luvstx wrote:I’m with GA and others on this and not Sprite (sorry)….

Susie should have told him in advance that she didn’t want him to sleep with others. She set a hoop for him to jump through without telling him advance how high the hoop was. A trap.

And I really liked Susie but I really don’t think she loved him. Not sure she was vying for ‘ette more than she just wasn’t that into him. No real tears or sobs. Wasn’t willing to work through it. Wasn’t willing to accept that they were on a stupid tv show with manipulative producers.

I was impressed with Clayton (though wish he had toned it down a bit at the end). He was set up by producers and by Susie. He cared about her. I thought when he stormed out he was intimating that TPTB had pushed him to express his feelings to all three.

No apology necessary. I don't disagree that she should have told him earlier, but I will give her some slack ...  even though I think she wants to be the bette ... but I think producers probably told her not to. Not like that has never happened before. Also, if he truly cared, he didn't need to be shouting to the other two that he was falling in love or sleeping with them. And he certainly didn't need to attack her like that and put all the blame on her. I hope he gets some of this kind of treatment when Rachel and Gabby have a go at him on the AFTR.

I think when all the women watch this season, they will realize that they are all winners and he is the biggest loser. Even his own parents look disgusted with him. I just can't fathom how he could possibly think he could do and say all this stuff and then think that things would turn out rosy. It boggles the mind.

luvstx wrote:I think he and Rachel may have reconciled as I think she really loves him and would eventually be able to forgive him

I don't know if I see that happening with her knowing that he was "falling in love" with her but was "in love" with Suzie . He got played by The producers and by Suzie imo . I do think he's single and hasen't reconciled with any of them. jmo

luvstx wrote:I think he and Rachel may have reconciled as I think she really loves him and would eventually be able to forgive him

i hope not for rachel's sake. regardless of anyone's personal feelings about susie's intentions (and i'm one who thinks she was stringing him along for as long as she could), nobody deserves to be treated the way clayton treated her tonight. it was scary to watch how he turned the situation back on her and she ended up apologizing to him!

hoping all the f3 move on to find better partners for them. cause it ain't clayton.