Bachelor 25 - Matt James - F1 - F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

If Rachael is in Florida, why would she not post anything about it?

suzq wrote:If Rachael is in Florida, why would she not post anything about it?

I don’t know. It doesn’t seem like so posts much anyway, even before the bachelor. It could she’s not posting because she’s with her family. I did notice something last night that could possibly indicate she was with her family. Is that a Rachael and her sister both posting the same story about human trafficking on their IG stories around the same time. I believe her sister post it first then Rachael did. Where Rachael is it, it seems like it not in GA. Could be with her family in FL or with Matt in LA.

Has there been any other sleuthing clues found that points to a F1 yet? At this point it could be anyone and not necessarily Rachael as rumors have indicated. It just seems to be more difficult to figure out in the times of Covid. Plus if the ladies are not truly active or hard to pinpoint, even the F4 could be a different mix of ladies than previously assumed. JMO.

@Ruqibabe thank you very much and for stating the time stamp.

S/cap from Monday night thanks to @smg2587



Exact same background. Pointing out Rachel makes a point in saying she is afraid of being judged. He talks about Rachel, He starts with  "Rachel" but you don't see him saying that. 3:45 paraphrasing,  she's beautiful she's sexy ..and ends it with she's blown me away. He could have been talking about anyone since we don't see him say "Rachel" and the fact this was filmed at another time tells me they need more from him since he has a different shirt on as noticed by the reddit poster.



https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5904-bachelor-25-matt-james-media-scaps-jan-11-preview-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

https://youtu.be/gN-19EQyDlc

ReneeM wrote:I’ve been wondering if Matt and the F4 women pre-taped ATFR. They would have to quarantine, COVID tests, and a closed set. Not being able to place a single one of them since last Wednesday is making me think that. Rachael’s absence from her friend’s wedding shower has been talked about, but I think Bri’s post a few days ago was a latergram from when she spent NYE in Miami, Michelle acts like SM doesn’t exist so she’s harder to track, but Serena’s best friend’s birthday was over the weekend and she wasn’t with her, she watched last week’s episode with her sister, doesn’t seem like they watched together tonight. Nothing definitive, just something I’m keeping an eye on. Serena should be relatively easy to track because if she left Canada she’ll have to quarantine for 14 days when she returns so we’ll see if any of her friends or fam post stories with her in the next week or so.

Thanks for keeping an eye out on her.

Serena may be following health guidelines since we are in lockdown, and didn't go to her friend's birthday, but since it seems she didn't watch with her sister, that is strange to me. I would think every contestant would be watching with their family and posting on SM. However, she doesn't seem to be a big SM user. To the very least, her family/friends would post during epi night.

Also, she was one of the last ones to reactivate her IG after filming, and her numbers hardly changed though out filming which had me thinking post filming. She is definitely one of the quiet ones.

She's adorable, reminds me a bit of Meaghan Markle.

Bri got verified on IG today. Could mean something (Zac was verified pretty early on last season), could mean nothing, especially since she works for IG or Facebook in some capacity.

Soo.... I went snooping.. I visited Abigail mum's Facebook page and she wrote abt her daughter being happy and glad she went.. Why is Abigail so happy if she isnt F1 or heartbroken that she isnt F2 as spoilers stated? Something must have gone down for her to love the experience, speak highly of Matt and leave with a very positive outlook.. Are we sure Abigail isnt one of the F4? 
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10222114132594653&id=1603001655&fs=0&focus_composer=0

Lots of people are happy they go on the show even if they don’t win. They talk about the experience being therapeutic in some way. It helps them be more open about their emotions etc. But no we’re not sure that she didn’t make F4.

ReneeM wrote:Lots are people are happy they go on the show even if they don’t win. They talk about the experience being therapeutic in some way. It helps them be more open about their emotions etc. But no we’re not sure that she didn’t make F4.

True.. Abigail was so upbeat and positive in the interview with BHH. She is one of the few contestant that is outrightly posting about the show.. Bri is posting personal pictures and not recognizing the bachelor franchise considering the clean edit she is getting. I read on reddit that Bri seemed fatigued and sad when she was last seen... I am not getting that vibe from Abigail.. She seemed contented and happy with how everything went.. she even had a small premiere party.  Its all suspicious.

Ruqibabe wrote:

ReneeM wrote:Lots are people are happy they go on the show even if they don’t win. They talk about the experience being therapeutic in some way. It helps them be more open about their emotions etc. But no we’re not sure that she didn’t make F4.

True.. Abigail was so upbeat and positive in the interview with BHH. She is one of the few contestant that is outrightly posting about the show.. Bri is posting personal pictures and not recognizing the bachelor franchise considering the clean edit she is getting. I read on reddit that Bri seemed fatigued and sad when she was last seen... I am not getting that vibe from Abigail.. She seemed contented and happy with how everything went.. she even had a small premiere party.  Its all suspicious.

I think that's Abigail though. She just seems genuinely like a happy, upbeat, sweet person in general.

I mistakenly duplicated the screenshot.. this is another one
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10221962787651124&id=1603001655

According to this IG account, Matt was listening to one of Rachael’s Spotify playlists today.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CKH8R5MsurG/?igshid=s6n25r9f86gh

ETA: I’ve got to say that it’s shocking to me that Matt of all people would make the error of listening to his F1’s (or any contestant’s) Spotify. But especially if Rachael is his F1, in light of his mother’s follow and storying of his FaceTime shortly after filming ended. Add to this that he had a front row seat to people tracking Tyler’s Spotify during/after Hannah’s season. It’s kind of mind-blowing. He definitely likes to troll people, so I almost could see him doing this for that purpose, but why? I’m inclined to this this was an error and that he has spoiled his season. All IMO