Bachelor 25 - Matt James - F1 - F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I’ve been wondering if Matt and the F4 women pre-taped ATFR. They would have to quarantine, COVID tests, and a closed set. Not being able to place a single one of them since last Wednesday is making me think that. Rachael’s absence from her friend’s wedding shower has been talked about, but I think Bri’s post a few days ago was a latergram from when she spent NYE in Miami, Michelle acts like SM doesn’t exist so she’s harder to track, but Serena’s best friend’s birthday was over the weekend and she wasn’t with her, she watched last week’s episode with her sister, doesn’t seem like they watched together tonight. Nothing definitive, just something I’m keeping an eye on. Serena should be relatively easy to track because if she left Canada she’ll have to quarantine for 14 days when she returns so we’ll see if any of her friends or fam post stories with her in the next week or so.

@ReneeM I can totally see that being the case. They are going to start filming Bette right away so probably can’t do a quick turn around from Matt’s AFTR like they used to with the new rules they operate under.

Apparently Rachael's grandfather is in the hospital with COVID. Someone said her grandmother was posting about it on Facebook. So there is a chance she missed the bridal shower for a family emergency.

Hopefully he recovers well

She wouldn't be able to visit him in the hospital, though.

COVID is not like a normal illness before where anyone could go visit someone in the hospital.

@suzq Yes, but I would personally still be around my family &focused on them. Not out partying and what not.

Tried to look back and didn’t see this posted but it looks like one of the suppose f4, Serena P is the newest client of Lori K. Didn't think she was f1 but signing and interacting with Lori K is one of the biggest clues we missed with Madi last season. So wanted to add that.

@yellowbirdcage Do you know when that post was made? because if shv started Wednesday or Thursday last week she could of been in LA already before her grandfather went to the hospital.

Also anyone find it weird Chris posted and tagged a picture of just Rachael in his IG tonight?

@yellowbirdcage I understand what you are saying, but Rachael just doesn't seem like she'd miss her friend's bridal party unless her grandpa was very ill. It's not like she can do much. Maybe it is because I have had several close family members pass away -- most people don't just totally stop their lives when someone is sick unless the person is very ill (especially if you can't visit the person). Besides, wouldn't she be posting something on IG? I'm not saying it isn't something to be taken into consideration, but I wouldn't take it as concrete evidence. JMO.

@suzq but I think Rachel would care about how she is perceived... I get the image protector vibe from her especially since she is under a lot of heat and microscope.. its a bad look to attend a party while grandpa is in the hospital.. the court of public opinion is very judgemental..

@suzq The grandma said they are letting visitors for 2 hours a day. I personally wouldn't be posting an active illness just because I'd be actively processing it but who knows how Rachael would react. Haven't seen enough of the girl to know yet. I do agree though that it's not concrete at all.

yellowbirdcage wrote:@suzq The grandma said they are letting visitors for 2 hours a day. I personally wouldn't be posting an active illness just because I'd be actively processing it but who knows how Rachael would react. Haven't seen enough of the girl to know yet. I do agree though that it's not concrete at all.

Letting visitors see COVID patients.. hmmmmm... Thats not possible. Maybe the grandma has something else and is not in the hospital. My mum didn't have COVID and no one was allowed to visit while she admitted in the hospital several times. This second wave is even more serious than the first so I dont think they are allowing visitors anywhere close to the clinic.

Ruqibabe wrote:

yellowbirdcage wrote:@suzq The grandma said they are letting visitors for 2 hours a day. I personally wouldn't be posting an active illness just because I'd be actively processing it but who knows how Rachael would react. Haven't seen enough of the girl to know yet. I do agree though that it's not concrete at all.

Letting visitors see COVID patients.. hmmmmm... Thats not possible. Maybe the grandma has something else and is not in the hospital. My mum didn't have COVID and no one was allowed to visit while she admitted in the hospital several times. This second wave is even more serious than the first so I dont think they are allowing visitors anywhere close to the clinic.

I read the Rachaels grandmothers page it and she said that she is able to see go see him 2 hours a day. But it did sound like it was only her that was able to or her that was their. I did some sleuthing, he grandmother lives in Florida about 6 hours away from where Rachael lives in Georgia. So it possible the family drive to FL to at least see her grandmother and support her. He grandfather was admitted to hospital last Tuesday on January 5th. Matt filmed a video for congratulating the saints, to me it looked like he was a in hotel. Possibly in FL. But I could Not tell, it could have been LA. Is their anyway someone could direct me how to sleuth a location?

I just remember Matt’s had his Twitter locations on January 6th and it said LA. So I guess the SHV was mostly likely in the LA. It does look like Matt SHV was definitely in a hotel based on that video of him with saints. Do they do SHV in hotels? If Matt’s SHV was really in LA and Rachael had been with her family in FL. That could definitely mean she’s not F1.