MAFS - Season 12 - Episodes - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Chris seems manipulative to me. He says whatever he thinks Paige wants to hear. JMO.

When Paige pulls away from Chris you see him soften towards her and he tells her nice things. As soon as she starts to feel she is in a good place with him he says hurtful things to her. What a yoyo in emotions!! Poor woman.

What is up with emotions between Haley and Jacob? I kind of feel for him. Sounds like he was saying that she didn't tell him about some get together the rest of the couples decided on and he missed out on it. If that's true that's kind of petty!!

I see Ryan is a very private person which I don't blame him for. His parents are both ministers and I 'm sure they asked him not to embarrass them,

I'm wondering what Eric's Mom is thinking watching him being drunk? I shudder to think.

I hope soon it will be the end of the Chris Show!!!!!

@Brill ... Virginia is a mess.. she is my wonderful mess. She needs to grow up and it needs to be done by someone other than Erik. I need Pastor to speak sense into her head and have her decrease the alcohol intake.. I love them together and i see great things when they balance out.

Ruqibabe wrote:@Brill ... Virginia is a mess.. she is my wonderful mess. She needs to grow up and it needs to be done by someone other than Erik. I need Pastor to speak sense into her head and have her decrease the alcohol intake.. I love them together and i see great things when they balance out.

I agree she is a mess. I wonder where she got the idea that you can marry someone and still do all the same stuff you did when you were single? There were a couple of times tonight she looked quite rough and a lot older then she is. I'm curious if in watching it back what she thinks. It might be an eye opener.

@Brill . She looked better on unfiltered.. I think she might be using the alcohol to self medicate.. I remember the preview that she suffers from anxiety..

I didn't understand what Jacob was referring to either. They didn't air it? or did I miss it.

Chris is mentally abusive, he's treating Paige like garbage. He is a disgusting person. the show should have pulled him out, he is dangerous.

I don't have a problem with age differences, Virginia 26 Eric 34, but when someone is in their 20's and still behaving like partying is the most important thing in your life, marriage is not on your mind IMHO.

I think they mis matched some of these couples. Paige deserved better then Chris ,imo Eric and Haley probably would've been a better match with Eric's job that takes him away days at a time and Virginia drinking so much I can't see how they were supposedly a good match. Sounds to me like there might be some trust issues with them moving forward. I don't see them lasting. jmo

Wasn't able to watch last night and finished the episode just now. I am mostly at a loss for words beyond what everyone else has posted here.

I agree that Chris is dangerous in a mental sense and wish Paige would walk away. She seems intelligent and sweet and doesn't deserve the abuse Chris hurls her way.

I'll be surprised if Jacob and Haley last until the end of the 8 weeks. They are totally mismatched, completely mismatched.

Virginia needs to back away from the "shots" and her overuse (in my mind) of alcohol. I have seen alcoholism take people's lives and would hat to see that happen to her.

All in all, I'm not sure I'm enjoying this season as much as I have past ones. It appears that the experts and TPTB have focused more on drama rather than matching people.

Doats wrote:Wasn't able to watch last night and finished the episode just now. I am mostly at a loss for words beyond what everyone else has posted here.

I agree that Chris is dangerous in a mental sense and wish Paige would walk away. She seems intelligent and sweet and doesn't deserve the abuse Chris hurls her way.

I'll be surprised if Jacob and Haley last until the end of the 8 weeks. They are totally mismatched, completely mismatched.

Virginia needs to back away from the "shots" and her overuse (in my mind) of alcohol. I have seen alcoholism take people's lives and would hat to see that happen to her.

All in all, I'm not sure I'm enjoying this season as much as I have past ones. It appears that the experts and TPTB have focused more on drama rather than matching people.

Totally agree. It def looks that way. They're lucky if they get one match out of the five this season that stays together. jmo

One of the articles I read said exactly that. Some fan's complaining about the drama, they don't want to see that.

I am super behind.. have barely got through the weddings! I have been reading here that there is lots more drama then usual which ugh not looking forward too.

Chris, jerk that he is, got on a flight to Chicago instead of moving into the apartment with Paige. Said he needed some time alone or words to that effect.

I wish Paige could see that he is not a good person and his chances of growing and becoming better are slim.