Bachelor In Paradise - Australia - Season 3 - Media SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

The sweater picture is just the absolute cutest, we were all hoping to see an updated version!

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Photo just posted by Sam


Photo posted by Renee a few months ago that had us looking at wine glasses and windows
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butterflylove wrote:

Enough wrote:There is more to love than looks

I agree looks aren't everything but also... I think they're actually pretty well matched.  Glenn may be classically good looking with his blonde hair and blue eyes but he's not THAT hot.    

I certainly wouldn't say he's out of Alisha's league.  They have a similar (fairly ordinary) fashion sense, both seem relatively clean living.  They look like a regular suburban couple to me.  



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Dirty Street Pie wrote: It’s an easy thing to claim as well, and whether it’s true or false none of the main players will have any interest in making a comment as it would just draw more attention to it, which is in none of their best interests.I  believe she’s had Jules on as a guest a couple of times, and quite early on, before the podcast had much traction, so you’d think that the podcast host is pretty friendly with him, so maybe she’s doing him a favour and slinging a bit of mud at Alisha and Glenn? It’s gotta be annoying him that people are frothing over what a man Glenn is, and how sweet he and Alisha are together?  JMO

I just listened to her interviews with Jules and Todd, Todd is one of Megan's best friends, Tood admitted that she is his confidant, so Megan knows a lot of contestants. She is also close to Mia. We need to be fair to Jules  IMO Jules has nothing to do with that at all, he has told Megan that he doesn't want to talk about the franchise anymore and he is actually supportive of Alisha and Glenn. Listen to his interview and you will see, he is by no means a vindictive person. @DirtyStreetPie @Bobette  for instance, today she had Kiki and Renee so if what Megan said about Alisha and Glenn was not true I do not think Renee would have done the podcast. Besides, I believe she knows all of them. She was even at Jackson's party. I am about to listen to that podcast.

In any case, if the cheating episodes were true (and IMO it is quite likely as I think Glenn always liked Helena)  it is Glenn and Alisha's issue, they assessed that and they decided to stay together. I would never ever forgive cheating and neither would my husband but other people do forgive infidelity, it is a decision that couples make considering their personal circumstances only time will tell.  What matters is what comes next. I think the best way to go is learning from the past but looking forward.

^ Well Glenn dropped Helena like a hot potato the minute Alisha showed up, before he even had a conversation with her, so it doesn’t seem like he liked her that much.


The latest So Dramatic podcast was crazy. It started with Kiki about her breakup with Ciarran. Then the host called Renee to figure out the timeline of Ciarran’s movements pre show (it got my head spinning).

Then they started to talk about Matt. Apparently it wasn’t working between him and Renee because of the distance. Right before New Year’s, Matt broke it off and admitted he was seeing someone new.
The host knew that girl too, so she called her. It turned out that she had been dating Matt pretty much since he came back from Fiji, and knew nothing about Renee. Then, after moving in with the girl, Matt cheating on her and broke up with her too.

In the end they were all just laughing and shaking their heads.
So Matt is basically Ciarran 2.0, which is funny considering his self-righteous behavior on the show.
JMO

Hmmmm yeah well I for one won't be taking Renee's word on a podcast as gospel (especially one which has already been pushing false/questionable info and seems particularly biased towards certain contestants IMO).  

There's two sides to every story and since she took Ciarran's ring to Paradise and said he went back on their deal to get back together before the Finale, I don't think her intentions were particularly honourable either.

Tenielle was in the comments on So Dramatic as well, very carefully stating that she “didn’t message him on that night in Sydney” which I take to mean she was messaging him at some point but not when he was with Kiki.
I definitely think So Dramatic has *some* sources, but they are not as connected or all knowing as they present themselves to be. It will be interesting to see how they go as they get bigger, as they will probably get a lot more info offered up to them, but they will need to vet it a bit more as some of that info will be false

Bobette wrote:Hmmmm yeah well I for one won't be taking Renee's word on a podcast as gospel (especially one which has already been pushing false/questionable info and seems particularly biased towards certain contestants IMO).  

There's two sides to every story and since she took Ciarran's ring to Paradise and said he went back on their deal to get back together before the Finale, I don't think her intentions were particularly honourable either.

Why did she even bother to write a big Insta post stating she has no ill feelings towards him knowing a podcast where she airs all his dirty laundry would go to air 10 mins later?

@Vjeff Why indeed.    

Worth noting IMO that we correctly predicted the fact that her and Ciarran had a pact to reunite in Fiji, that she'd get a victim edit to counterbalance Ciarran's villain, and that if she and Matty had ended in a couple it would have quickly fallen apart.  And we did it all without "sources".

I think Matty was wise to not maintain their showmance post-show.  Renee admitted she planned to reunite with Ciarran (despite knowing he cheated), and was (is?) clearly still hung up on him IMO.  She's no heroine in my book and IMO played Matty per her pre-show plan to get to the end.  

@Dirty Street Pie I totally agree.  There's a big difference between gossip and spoilers and if Ms Dramatic is just going to believe/promote whichever contestant is sucking up to her that particular week she's going to end up with a lot of contradictory/false information IMO.

She's already posted a lot of misleading stuff (eg Bali pics) and if she's not able to carry out basic fact checking or discern what's really going on when she's literally hanging out with these people then she's not very observant and just sensationalising and fishing for clicks and follows IMO.

Renee now said Matt ended their relationship by text.

Bachelor in Paradise star Renee Barrett claims Matt Whyatt dumped her via text message just weeks after the finale - as the brutal truth of their relationship is exposed

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8610009/Bachelor-Paradises-Renee-Barrett-claims-Matt-Whyatt-dumped-text-message.html?adobe_mc=TS%3D1597021418%7CMCAID%3D2F7111100515D55D-40000BE423B958BB

He should have dumped her on the show IMO - but that wouldn't have fit the storyline now would it...

blueblues wrote:^ Well Glenn dropped Helena like a hot potato the minute Alisha showed up, before he even had a conversation with her, so it doesn’t seem like he liked her that much.

Dramatic podcast was crazy. It started with Kiki about her breakup with Ciarran. Then the host called Renee to figure out the timeline of Ciarran’s movements pre show (it got my head spinning).

Then they started to talk about Matt. Apparently it wasn’t working between him and Renee because of the distance. Right before New Year’s, Matt broke it off and admitted he was seeing someone new.
The host knew that girl too, so she called her. It turned out that she had been dating Matt pretty much since he came back from Fiji, and knew nothing about Renee. Then, after moving in with the girl, Matt cheating on her and broke up with her too.

In the end they were all just laughing and shaking their heads.
So Matt is basically Ciarran 2.0, which is funny considering his self-righteous behavior on the show.
JMO

One correction:  Helena dropped Glenn and not vice versa. We saw how Helena frienzoned Glenn, she was clear about seeing just friendship there and she showed great excitement when Jake took her on a date and Glenn was left out bitching and calling Jake the Snake.. we saw it clearly, the day after they probably talk about it and we saw a fragment of it. Glenn knew she only wanted a friendship rose so we saw that but Glenn moven on. People IMO are happy to see a loving couple but we cannot accomodate facts to support our opinion. IMO, lots of people get overly invested in some couples. Yesterday I saw a woman calling Helena 'homewreker' , people are so stupid. I don't think Helena cares about Glenn anyway so in this thread, which focuses on social media, we are discussing the veracity of the informacion. I respect different views. IMO Glenn is nice, calm, kind of cute and also gossipy. Do I think the rummours about the cheating are true? Sure, I do! Do I think Glenn and Alisha fell in love? do believe that too. Do I think they will be together by thee end of 2021? I don't think so but I don't care and I don't think they care about my opinion either so I wish them luck. I want to forget about these two.

Media gossip has always been taken with caution here but has always been considered by members of the forum, for instance, many believed in the gossip that surrounded Abby and Carlin and it was true...as in a few cases.

And there I leave Alisha and Glenn, I really don't care for them so I will leave them behind and time will tell.

Genevieve Australia wrote:We need to be fair to Jules  IMO Jules has nothing to do with that at all, he has told Megan that he doesn't want to talk about the franchise anymore and he is actually supportive of Alisha and Glenn. Listen to his interview and you will see, he is by no means a vindictive person.

This looks pretty vindictive to me:



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... and going on a podcast to say you don't want to talk about the franchise is... the opposite of not talking about the franchise.

Anyway no I won't be listening - I was hesitant to even post that SC because I don't want to give her any free publicity