Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Mar 9th & 10th Finale - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

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OH. EM. GEE.

What did I just watch???

suzq wrote:I am stunned! I can't believe how hard it was to watch and honestly, it felt very anticlimactic.  I feel like I have no idea where Peter and Madi are headed.

It was the height of being a joy robber to your own flesh and blood when he was declaring his love to the girl he
Wanted

alwayscooking wrote:

redheadmiss wrote:I hope Barb reads these responses and realizes how terrible she acted. I feel sorry for her son. I do hope Peter and Madi work things out. They will have a difficult time with a mother like that. The family will be truly sorry if they continue this and they marry, bye bye MOM. But she was so happy for Clare who she does not even know. She is an actress with all her eye rolls. Get over yourself Barb you son loves who he loves.

Why was she so nice to HB she broke her sons heart. Something wrong with this women. She will lose her son if they make it work.

To those who have had a Mother-in-Law like Barb I feel very bad for you. I lost my wonderful Mother-in-Law a few years ago. She was the most beautiful women and I was so close to her. We spoke twice a day everyday until the day she died. Every single day she would close our call with I Love You. I still miss talking to her everyday.

It's all about control...  She knows she doesn't have the control over Madison, and if Peter is with Madison, she'll lose control over him in time.  Trust me on this.  I know

And also control in the one the mom picked for him he didn’t make it work even though he couldn’t give HA his whole heart and he wasn’t happy and he wanted Madi. What’s most important is mom’s happiness....what Pete wants/needs be damned.

@alwayscooking Yes I think Barb realized Madi had a backbone and that she could not be controlled. She didn't go into the MTP apologetic for having put her needs on equal footing with Peter. She felt that her and Peter were equals, and wasn't in deference to him. HA pledged undying love to Peter and for Barb that was enough. Peter can never do any wrong in her eyes (and btw I do think that eventually HA would've ended up on her Barb's bad side too as soon as she showed some backbone).

Barb also knew that someone like Madi would have a very clear perspective on life and likely wasn't going to move to LA. Again, that would've meant a loss of control for Barb.

It's just an incredibly toxic dynamic either way. Peter will need to realize that he must stop his Mother's control whether he's with Madi or not. I hope that Madi's mother is there with her and that maybe she'll show Peter how a loving mother behaves when you respect your children. All JMO.

cheriee wrote:@alwayscooking Yes I think Barb realized Madi had a backbone and that she could not be controlled. She didn't go into the MTP apologetic for having put her needs on equal footing with Peter. She felt that her and Peter were equals, and wasn't in deference to him. HA pledged undying love to Peter and for Barb that was enough. Peter can never do any wrong in her eyes (and btw I do think that eventually HA would've ended up on her Barb's bad side too as soon as she showed some backbone).

Barb also knew that someone like Madi would have a very clear perspective on life and likely wasn't going to move to LA. Again, that would've meant a loss of control for Barb.

It's just an incredibly toxic dynamic either way. Peter will need to realize that he must stop his Mother's control whether he's with Madi or not. I hope that Madi's mother is there with her and that maybe she'll show Peter how a loving mother behaves when you respect your children. All JMO.

Barb is horrible! I wish Madi's parents were there.

Hannah Ann looked visibly angry while waiting backstage. I thought her comment about being left in the dark that final week (and not being able to make a good decision accordingly) was on point.

I was genuinely shocked by Barb's "fail [in order] to succeed" comment. IMO there comes a point where you just have to let go of a situation, keep your mouth closed, and let a loved one make their own choices.

Having said that, I do think there was likely something to her other comment that a lot more happened at MTP that didn't make it to the final edit. It wasn't just that they thought that Madi's a bad fit for Peter, they also developed a serious dislike for her. And it wasn't just Barb! I was watching his dad's expression, and it was clear that he doesn't like Madi any better than Barb does. I think this goes well beyond the fact that Madi showed up late (for whatever reason,) stated that she was not in love with their son, and that she wouldn't accept a proposal from him. If I were a parent in that situation my response might well be, "Well, alrighty then. Don't let the door hit you on the way out." I think something else went down as well.

Despite Barb's tirade, Madi kept it classy. I certainly wish Peter and Madi the best of luck. If it ends up not working out, at least they gave it a try.

It would have been best for Peter and Madi if his parents would have stayed home.  They really hurt Peter even more than Madi.  The only good is the ratings the producers think they will get.  I hope that Madi and Peter have a great love. At least band together and help each other heal from this crazy show and what they were put through.

OMG his mom had a B! look on her face right away! Rude!

Anyone else on West Coast watching??

Amethyst wrote:I think this goes well beyond the fact that Madi showed up late (for whatever reason,) stated that she was not in love with their son, and that she wouldn't accept a proposal from him. If I were a parent in that situation my response might well be, "Well, alrighty then. Don't let the door hit you on the way out." I think something else went down as well.

IMO I think the explanation that Barb is completely irrational and blew the situation out of complete proportion makes much more sense. What is so awful that Madison could have done that Barb is not mentioning but also somehow justifies her being degraded and scolded on live television in front of a studio audience?

Also I struggle to believe that Madison verbatim went: "No I do not love Peter. No I will not accept a proposal." There is clearly nuance and rationale there that Barb is choosing to ignore to fit her narrative. JMO.

11minny wrote:Is there anyone else as stunned as I am about what we saw tonight?  It has been 45 minutes and I still can't believe it.

I went to bed, couldn't sleep because I absolutely could not believe a mother could do that to her son, who she said she loved dearly. She ran the bus over him time after time. Run Peter Run. Your mother should be ashamed of herself.

I hope Madi understands that if she stays with Peter, there will be lifelong issues with his nutso family. These things rarely resolve nicely. Imagine Barb as your children’s grandmother!!! 🤮