Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #11

appiah01 wrote:You know for all the talk of Hannah being a queen, I would love to tell her that in a situation like this, the best response would have been to adjust her crown, put on a smile, and say that she's confident in who she is and what she brings to the table and that nothing has changed from last week- Tyler and she can date whoever they want, including each other if they choose. Nothing and I mean nothing is more compelling than a woman who is confident in herself and unfazed.

If Hannah reads this board, she needs to pm you and beg you to do her pr. Love the way you worded that!

But then you have others who are hypothesizing that Hannah should have tried harder to show Tyler she really needs/wants him, especially after the Frc.  She can't win, I guess. Jmo

Btw, I may be in the minority here, but i doubt Sunday was Tyler's first date since Greece. I could be wrong if course, but just my gut feeling. Jmo

@Billysmom Oh, it's definitely not Tyler's first date since Greece. It's none of these guys' first dates since the show is done airing. I'm sure Tyler was dating on the down low and was not packing any PDA to avoid spoil the ending of the show. It's just that the show is over now, so he shouldn't have to hide or feel guilty about dating others.

@appiah01 The problem is Hannah hasn't developed the true confidence you described yet. She can fake it, but then she cracks quickly because it's not real. She's all talk. The woman was obsessed with Luke and Jed a few short months ago, that tells you right there what she thinks of herself. And true confidence is not developed in a couple months no matter what she says. When watching her videos, ig posts, interviews, it's just very obvious to me that she's just wearing the pageant smile and is severely struggling on this inside (not just about tyler, but about everything). She needs to sit in a therapist's office and that's no shade, but my honest thoughts. She might have had an entertaining season but I'm not sure how good it was for her mentally or emotionally. She needs to at least do something positive to deal like Tyler did with his running and diving into abcfoodtours. Hannah seems to just be sitting around in LA and going to BN stuff and meetings. That stuff doesn't help her get better, mentally. JMO

I am worried about the toll the season took on Hannah, and now about the possibility she might be comparing herself to a supermodel.... But I trust that, having come out of anxiety/depression in the past, she is in tune with her own feelings and smart enough to seek out whatever she needs to be whole. Yes, Tyler was smart to get into running etc.; I'm hoping she gets dwts, by herself, and that it too serves as an empowering experience. Jmo

Summerfun1980 wrote:@appiah01 The problem is Hannah hasn't developed the true confidence you described yet.  She can fake it, but then she cracks quickly because it's not real. She's all talk. The woman was obsessed with Luke and Jed a few short months ago, that tells you right there what she thinks of herself.  And true confidence is not developed in a couple months no matter what she says.  When watching her videos, ig posts, interviews, it's just very obvious to me that she's just wearing the pageant smile and is severely struggling on this inside (not just about tyler, but about everything). She needs to sit in a therapist's office and that's no shade, but my honest thoughts.  She might have had an entertaining season but I'm not sure how good it was for her mentally or emotionally.  She needs to at least do something positive to deal like Tyler did with his running and diving into abcfoodtours.  Hannah seems to just be sitting around in LA and going to BN stuff and meetings.  That stuff doesn't help her get better, mentally. JMO

I agree- I just had a lot of experience faking it at her age and never letting the veneer crack [which is why I am doing so much self work now to be more authentic and vulnerable a la my guru, Brene Brown]. Being 24 ain't easy and trying to figure out what you feel about life, love, God, religion- all while in the public eye, in a disorienting place like Los Angeles away from the only home she's known of Alabama- while being called a queen on one hand and a sl*t on the other, when she previously had only 2 relationships and had kissed 5 men...well, she's in quite a state. She's got a ton of new fake friends and now her beauty is being polled against a rich supermodel. Bless her whole heart. I know she wants to take advantage of this unexpected platform but I'm not sure she really even knows what that means. Honestly, what do we really know about Hannah? What does she care about? What are her passions and the causes she cares about.. apart from trying to be in a relationship seemingly at all costs?

I think her talking point during the pageants was mental health, iirc...

Very empathetic post, though, appiah. I've enjoyed reading your thoughts.

Apparently ABC Food Tours is headed to Santa Monica, Ca this Friday according to Tyler’s IG story. Looks like he’s headed west

Cocoasneeze wrote:I'm so over this "be respectful" narrative. Hannah was whole engaged to Jed. She dumped Tyler. He had to move on. He's the one who had to wait until AFTR to start openly living his life. Was he supposed to put his life on hold for Hannah, or what? And he should have given her more than two days?! What does that even mean, except putting his life on hold. Imho she's coming from a self centred place, all about her, imho still with the attitude, that she's the bachelorette. Honestly, I've never before seen a lead with with such an entitled attitude toward their F2 (or F3, according to CH). Jmho.

She is such an entitled brat imo Like get over your self She's right there at the top with MeAndi when it comes to entitlement and been self centered, she just covers it with the "pageant face" imo Sis grow the f#$% up and leave Tyler alone, he owes you Nada

I do think that Matt owes Hannah some kind of apology. I also hope that Tyler gives Hannah her bag back. I am well aware that Hannah dumped Tyler -- I honestly think that she is dealing with it the best that she can. If I were in her position, I would hate to continually be asked about Tyler and anyone that he's dating. She's human. I hope that Tyler realizes this and is understanding as well. All JMO.

If Tyler is in LA this Friday, I fully expect pics of him leaving Hannah's house on Saturday morning. I can't wait to laugh about it!

Summerfun1980 wrote:@appiah01 The problem is Hannah hasn't developed the true confidence you described yet.  She can fake it, but then she cracks quickly because it's not real. She's all talk. The woman was obsessed with Luke and Jed a few short months ago, that tells you right there what she thinks of herself.  And true confidence is not developed in a couple months no matter what she says.  When watching her videos, ig posts, interviews, it's just very obvious to me that she's just wearing the pageant smile and is severely struggling on this inside (not just about tyler, but about everything). She needs to sit in a therapist's office and that's no shade, but my honest thoughts.  She might have had an entertaining season but I'm not sure how good it was for her mentally or emotionally.  She needs to at least do something positive to deal like Tyler did with his running and diving into abcfoodtours.  Hannah seems to just be sitting around in LA and going to BN stuff and meetings.  That stuff doesn't help her get better, mentally. JMO

Yes, yes, yes! This. It's almost word for word what I was thinking. It's about the law of attraction... what you put out, you get back. If you seek drama and dysfunction, that's what you'll get. And... she spent her whole season chasing drama with Luke and then Jed. I don't think she understands how to be with someone like Tyler.