Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #11

The hurt, the salt, the tears! And they are not even in a relationship

sosleepy wrote:Being Gigi’s puppet for however long until she gets bored won’t bring anything of substance or happiness to his life either. Pretty sure.

He had it all right there at his fingertips ... wow.

Hannah already dropped him once. She could do it again for the next southern, tobacco chewing, country singer that shows her attention. Gigi can at least open a new world to him while using him and help his bruised ego a little bit. JMO

IMO Tyler’s radio silence during the GH camp’s calculated press releases - tagging Hannah in each, and Matt throwing shade at her (never took down his stories) - where is the support he talked about in his last post, during this?

I feel the only questions the media are asking her are related to Tyler and GH (again their press releases tagging her unnecessarily). She’s being supportive as she said she would by answering them all. She is now basically saying IMO “thank you - next please...Happy to answer questions about my personal journey and you can ask Tyler and Gigi about their relationship.” In an earlier post above it was mentioned it’s Hannah’s choice, she doesn’t need to answer media questions about Tyler - well this is her choosing to tell the media she is no longer answering “Tyler” related questions, move on media in IMO.

My point being they can both be supportive of one another without having to answer to the masses. Now it’s time for BN to give the BIP cast their deserved attention.

I say just let them live their life. There is too much judgment here. If Tyler wants to see Gigi or whoever thats on him. He is single and so is Hannah. I just don't want to judge what they're thinking, cause we don't know where their head space is at. This is just my opinion.

Hawaii Girl wrote:I will never understand how Hannah, of all leads, ended up on this unbelievable pedestal in which the opinions of everyone surrounding her are shaped by how much they worship her. Like Tyler has gone from Real Life Nicholas Sparks Character to The Ultimate F*ckboy in 24 hours because he… went on a couple of dates with someone else? Sheesh. Hannah herself said that they’re both exploring their options AND that their “sleepover” was the same as their FSD and they just talked a lot. And yes I’m taking her words at face value since, you know, she was there and I wasn’t. None of Tyler, Gigi, or Hannah are fictional characters who are being written for us to “ship”. They’re real people, and we do not know them. Like I’m not trying to police anyone’s opinions, but I think some deep breaths and perspective are needed here. JMO.

Exactly!

In every interview, Tyler and Hannah say they are friends. Even in his HB post, nowhere did Tyler claim he loves her. Hannah is not a victim! She dumped him first! I will forever remember Rachel said she once asked Bryan if she had not chosen him first, would he take her back? Bryan’s answer is NO. IMO, not trying to be a sexist, but men generally have bigger ego and pride than women. If the situation was reversed, Hannah would be hailed Queen of women empowerment!

Also, if you read the board or sm, you’d think Tyler just proposed to Gigi two days after he spent a night at Hannah’s place. He had a drink then bowling with friends! Casual dating IMO. Not even a picture of them holding hands or kissing. I am so glad for Tyler that he’s not interested to be TB. Can you image the riot, the bashing the moment he sends the fan fav home and choose the villain?

Tyler had fun. Hannah had fun last night too. Two young people enjoy their life! Great!

All Jmo.

@Floridian1990 two “dates” and one Tyler was wearing a t shirt and jeans and the other was a group outing bowling. I can only imagine the outrage if they were spotted in a romantic setting somewhere just the two of them dressed up.

How many dates has Hannah had since she’s known Tyler?

I understand people don’t like Gigi’s press machine but Tyler made sure not to be spotted with her yesterday when she did her pap stroll. So idk what more you want from him. Her press is striking now because the finale just ended and they dropped the other press release during bachelor in paradise. Tyler’s hot now. They know what they’re doing. But not much Tyler can do about that. JMO

Cocoasneeze wrote:

sosleepy wrote:I’m absolutely floored Tyler gave up DWTS, possibly being future lead, Hannah and Bachelor super couple brand to basically be Kevin Federline or one of JLo’s faceless backup dancer exes.

He’s pissing off the very fan base that got him where he is. His popularity will decline and he will no longer be any use to Gigi. And where does that leave him? Opening bars and clubs with Matt. Biggest/fastest fall from grace in franchise history.

I'm wondering how did he give up on Hanna and being in a bachelor super couple  and being the next lead, at the same time?

Imho Tyler gave up on Hannah the moment she dumped him. Her putting him on a spot at the AFTR, imho was a huge turn off too. And tbh, the way Bach fans sometimes behave, imho it's smart to distance himself from that completely. If his popularity is tied to Hannah and Hannah alone, imho he's better off without it.

And to be quite frank, I'm so over these posts degrading Gigi. Imho She's not some evil puppet master here. For someone living in a public life, she's fairly down to earth, there aren't scandals to her name, she's been in one known long term relationship, and that lasted for many years. Hardly someone who only dates people to be in the spotlight. Jmho.

@Cocoasneeze
Thank you for the reality check. Gigi Hadid doesn’t need Tyler for anything unless she truly likes and wants to get to know him which I think is a good possibility because he is a jewel and unlike some people, she’s smart and experienced enough to know it. I think she’s fabulous and I applaud his decision to get to know her. She can teach him things about the business it may have taken him years to learn. She can raise his profile from F2 dumped in a dumpster fire to an established model. No brainer. Go Tyler!! All IMO.

IMO, this feels a little like Ariana Grande and Pete Davidson. (With Pete having a little more experience in the industry than Tyler.) I hope it doesn't end similarly for Tyler.

I have no idea why we are blaming G's PR people leaking info. How do we know this is being done directly and intentionally by her people? TYIA

I honestly believe people have way to much expectations for the 2 as individuals and together. I was a fan of them and was really hoping that they could build on something after the Jed break up. But I realized  even building a friendship is going t take time. So I went in to the finale with realistic expectations. A drink together to me is realistic. I do think they wanted to talk it just probably shouldn't be announced on the show or their IGs that it was happening. That to me is where the backlash starts. 

Maybe its me but I don't see Hannah is upset or sad about the situation in these interviews. I see her annoyed by the Tyler questions but I would be to. Everyone reads a lot into everything and I fully admit to doing that as well. Honestly a friendship would take time to build for anyone under these circumstances. So I am not sure what people are expecting from Tyler and Hannah. Their last convo before atfr she told him he loved someone else. Yes that someone else turned out to be a grade a jerk but still. From what Hannah is saying they talked things out and they both thought it was a good conversation but they left it as 2 single people. 

Right now they are both trying to move on with their life post show. I really want to start seeing Hannah away from the people that work on this show. Honestly go hang out with someone not in the bachelor universe. I think she needs that to really move on from everything thing that has happen since filming began and not just the Tyler stuff. Its been 6 weeks since she ended her engagement. She hasn't really been out of the bachelor bubble yet to know what Hannah really wants imo. 

This Tyler and Gigi stuff those sound like a pr thing. But there have been rumors he has been dating on the downlow when he got to NYC and was the spoiled f1. I seen pictures of him in the park hanging out with women (and no I don't mean the runs), people saw him at the movies on what looked to be a double date, there are rumors of other models not name Gigi. So he has been seeing what is out there for him. I do think he is casually dating and not making commitments to anyone. And I say good for him. Some of this was before the break up with Jed now. So after the talk with Hannah he simply went back doing what he was doing in NYC to begin with. Yes with a more high profile person so it makes news. But he isn't doing anything differently than what he was doing.

I think people set to high of an expectation on them and are reacting to them not doing what they want. They are just 2 people. I don't believe Tyler lead Hannah on. I think defending Hannah is something he felt was the right thing to do. Honestly hope they can still build some kind of friendship but right now that is going to be hard because what has happen during filming and the pressure on both of them. 

I will still be a fan of these 2 as individuals and I don't like how fans of the show have to tear one down to build one up. Probably repeating this a lot but for now let them live their lives and in time they will be able to define what they have outside the show. All that jumbled mess was jmho.

@GuardianAngel it’s kind of obvious, to me. Because her people do stuff like this. I’ve followed her over the years, less so recently because I grew bored with her. She’s known to call the paps in LA and provide news articles to sources like page six. And if you look at her pics from yesterday, she definitely did a little stroll for the paps. When Gigi wants to hide a relationship, she hides it. She doesn’t need to meet anyone at the soho house or a bowling alley. All the comments from sources in the articles sounds like generic or relationship lingo based on what I’ve seen in LA. JMO

I agree, it is easy for me to be judgmental with this show. But I think I come here to try as best as we outsiders are able to figure out how gullible I am.... Sometimes the pendulum swings from one side to the other till it eventually comes to an equilibrium where I finally realize none if these people is a saint and none a sinner, but they are all just trying to find their lives.

I will confess, though, to having a certain bias against certain lifestyles we are shown, and to that extent I am able to relate to some of the bias Hannah had to punch through to see the inner Tyler. She labored to punch her own way out of the pageant girl box, allowing us all to see her in all her mess. Did we get to see the real Tyler? That remains to be seen....  He certainly handled himself beautifully on the show, but this new phase of his life brings with it its own challenges, and for me the jury is still out. Not that he is eagerly awaiting my verdict, I realize