Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #8

In this world we will always have people living their faith differently. Luke lives his faith as the Bible says since it was written, not re-arranged because we are in 2019.

That is the core of argument between Luke and Hannah. Not that Luke is a Christian.

Jmo

Bachhh022 wrote:This is just crazy to me.

No one is against Luke because of his faith, i dont even see that many mad at him for his beliefs....he's fully allowed to be a born again virgin if he wants (Sean Lowe did it and no one was mad) the issue is that he was pushing his beliefs on Hannah. Even now he and his family act like shes "sinning" or a bad christian if she doesnt follow his beliefs to a T.

I couldn't agree with you more.

I honestly have an issue with how Fox and Friends handled this whole interview. There are multiple sides of the story here. They only presented one.

IMO there are varying degrees of Christianity. I am a Christian, however, I do not attend church and haven't for many years. But my beliefs are still within me and always will be. I don't project my beliefs to everyone else and I don't appreciate people trying to project their beliefs on me. Luke can believe how he wants and he can live with those beliefs. Just don't bully everyone to believe the same way.

@Sharnee What episode is that? TIA!

Tyler really, really hates Luke P.

Am I crazy or should LukeP and his family just go quietly into the sunset?!? Fighting his edit publicly at this point will only make the haters hate more.

And it's on him if he went through the entire process of applying to be on the show without knowing more about it.

The subtweeting is so cheesy but I can’t help but love it He’s really clever with this one and it’s nice to see the continuous support for Hannah. Hannah Hannah Hannah how could you have been so blind?

As a Christian, this really saddens me that he and family are trying to gloss over his obvious personality defects and act as though he is being persecuted for his beliefs. Those defects are what caused the problems we were shown, not because he was a "righteous man." Go quietly into your prayer corner Luke, grow up and wise up.

BlueTone wrote:As a Christian, this really saddens me that he and family are trying to gloss over his obvious personality defects and act as though he is being persecuted for his beliefs. Those defects are what caused the problems we were shown, not because he was a "righteous man." Go quietly into your prayer corner Luke, grow up and wise up.

Agree. The irony in all of this is why did Luke even go on a TV show in the first place...let alone The Bachelor? Do we know how he got on the show?

luvstx wrote:Am I crazy or should LukeP and his family just go quietly into the sunset?!?  Fighting his edit publicly at this point will only make the haters hate more.

And it's on him if he went through the entire process of applying to be on the show without knowing more about it.

And, IMO, validate that he really might just be exactly how the edit portrayed him.

BlueTone wrote:As a Christian, this really saddens me that he and family are trying to gloss over his obvious personality defects and act as though he is being persecuted for his beliefs. Those defects are what caused the problems we were shown, not because he was a "righteous man." Go quietly into your prayer corner Luke, grow up and wise up.

Same. And, the martyrdom of Luke and persecution of Hannah is really @#$%-ing me off.

The reason people don't like Luke has nothing to with his religion. It has nothing to do with him wanting to be abstinent before marriage. It has everything to do with how he behaved, the words he used. The lying. The pride. The arrogance. The disrespect. The lack of self-awareness.

He's definitely riding a wave of support from "persecuted" Christian warriors right now which really frustrates me. Just because someone is a Christian doesn't give them a free pass. I hope the MTA puts Luke back in place. Not with the guys bashing him, but just Luke being Luke - showing the world he is an arrogant, insolent, jerk who thinks he has no faults.

And I hope Hannah and Chris Harrison frame her relationship with Luke as a toxic one, and highlight the issues point by point. How Luke behaved with Hannah was not okay.

If Luke is such a good christian why did he just sit there when she told him to leave?  He said if she had sex with some of the men he would have to remove himself.  She admitted it and he still didn't want to leave. Then he has the nerve to insert himself in the rc after she made it clear she didn't want him there.  That is not christian like that's insane.

nannymargie wrote:If Luke is such a good christian why did he just sit there when she told him to leave?  He said if she had sex with some of the men he would have to remove himself.  She admitted it and he still didn't want to leave. Then he has the nerve to insert himself in the rc after she made it clear she didn't want him there.  That is not christian like that's insane.

My only criticism of Hannah during that FS dinner conversation was when Luke offered up his ultimatum "He'd leave if she had sex..." Hannah should've just told him to go. No other explanation or conversation needed. And Luke would've gained a few points if he stuck to his principles and just left.

The problem is, Luke never does what he says. Luke says one thing, backtracks, lies, and twists/turns the conversation on the other person. I am still "befumbled" by what they see in each other. And even more amazed that he comes back at the FS. I get TPTB were probably in his ear most of the season -- but for this, after Hannah telling him she had sex and practically throwing him the limo, I can't fathom how he thought this was a good idea. It's really not right. At. All.