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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
avacaroline wrote:More thoughts and speculation. Because it’s just impossible to understand how she chose NotTyler.
I’ve gone back and watched all the time between Hannah and both Tyler and Jed. Tyler’s attention to her and his eye contact and body language literally took my breath away. The way he searches for her in a room and how he looks at her......his feelings for her are palpable. However, Hannah doesn’t seem to meet his intensity. Although she’s insanely attracted to him and can feel the chemistry, she doesn’t know what to do with it sometimes. She often turns her head away from him in I guess might be shyness....as though she doesn’t trust that he would really be that in to her? Like it’s almost all TOO much for her. With Jed I feel nothing from him. He’s a contestant trying to say and do the right things to move on to the next week. In fact, he seems very uncomfortable around her. For Hannah, I feel like Jed is what she’s always known. She recognizes her feelings when she’s around him so it’s.... safe. She knows what to do with it so she can fall in to her role with that relationship very easily.
I speculate that all of the Luke drama took up an incredible amount of time and energy so once she was finally able to get past that relationship, she was virtually out of time. After watching the sit down with Chris Harrison that was filmed after hometowns, I believe that Luke was still her F1. His was the last FS date so for things to blow up at that point, it doesn’t give her a lot of time to get caught up with the other relationships. I think Hannah panicked and went in to “perfect Hannah” mode. “The show must go on!” She has said herself that she often tried to take over production. That’s Stage Hannah for sure! Jed was the known and Tyler was the unknown. I don’t think that Hannah can yet recognize something as good and pure as what Tyler could offer her. I would even bet that if she would watch back (instead of sleep through the episodes) she would be shocked to see the chemistry they had. It’s all very tragic to me.
Anyway, those are my random thoughts to add. All speculation and my opinion. I’m not even sure I want to watch and see how it all ends. I’m just kind of not even in to it anymore. Ugh. How disappointing.
What you said is so real and kind of what I was thinking too. I watched everything back again. And while I do see her attraction to Jed more clearly now, her attraction to Tyler is different. With Jed Hannah is in control, and with Tyler she is not and it scares her In all my years watching this show, and that''s pretty much all of them, Tyler and Hannah's chemistry is off the charts. Go back and watch their dancing part of their 1-1 in slo-mo, the eye contact and the intensity is insane! I don't think Hannah, that is always in control, knew how to handle that. Which is sad because it is so Noah and Allie.
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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
@alwayscooking @avacaroline I have to say you ladies have done a great synopsis of what we have seen so far. IMO the rest of the season will be a dumpster fire and Hannah best be prepared for the SM uproar that IMO will ensue.
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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
alwayscooking wrote:avacaroline wrote:More thoughts and speculation. Because it’s just impossible to understand how she chose NotTyler.
I’ve gone back and watched all the time between Hannah and both Tyler and Jed. Tyler’s attention to her and his eye contact and body language literally took my breath away. The way he searches for her in a room and how he looks at her......his feelings for her are palpable. However, Hannah doesn’t seem to meet his intensity. Although she’s insanely attracted to him and can feel the chemistry, she doesn’t know what to do with it sometimes. She often turns her head away from him in I guess might be shyness....as though she doesn’t trust that he would really be that in to her? Like it’s almost all TOO much for her. With Jed I feel nothing from him. He’s a contestant trying to say and do the right things to move on to the next week. In fact, he seems very uncomfortable around her. For Hannah, I feel like Jed is what she’s always known. She recognizes her feelings when she’s around him so it’s.... safe. She knows what to do with it so she can fall in to her role with that relationship very easily.
I speculate that all of the Luke drama took up an incredible amount of time and energy so once she was finally able to get past that relationship, she was virtually out of time. After watching the sit down with Chris Harrison that was filmed after hometowns, I believe that Luke was still her F1. His was the last FS date so for things to blow up at that point, it doesn’t give her a lot of time to get caught up with the other relationships. I think Hannah panicked and went in to “perfect Hannah” mode. “The show must go on!” She has said herself that she often tried to take over production. That’s Stage Hannah for sure! Jed was the known and Tyler was the unknown. I don’t think that Hannah can yet recognize something as good and pure as what Tyler could offer her. I would even bet that if she would watch back (instead of sleep through the episodes) she would be shocked to see the chemistry they had. It’s all very tragic to me.
Anyway, those are my random thoughts to add. All speculation and my opinion. I’m not even sure I want to watch and see how it all ends. I’m just kind of not even in to it anymore. Ugh. How disappointing.
What you said is so real and kind of what I was thinking too. I watched everything back again. And while I do see her attraction to Jed more clearly now, her attraction to Tyler is different. With Jed Hannah is in control, and with Tyler she is not and it scares her In all my years watching this show, and that''s pretty much all of them, Tyler and Hannah's chemistry is off the charts. Go back and watch their dancing part of their 1-1 in slo-mo, the eye contact and the intensity is insane! I don't think Hannah, that is always in control, knew how to handle that. Which is sad because it is so Noah and Allie.
Yes! 100% agree with you! I’ve never ever witnessed chemistry like that. Watching him with her literally takes my breath away. She just didn’t know what to do with it.
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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
mercieme wrote:@alwayscooking @avacaroline I have to say you ladies have done a great synopsis of what we have seen so far. IMO the rest of the season will be a dumpster fire and Hannah best be prepared for the SM uproar that IMO will ensue.
My only hope is that Jed does comes clean with his gf before the FRC. And if he does, and Hannah still wants him, I'm cool with her decision, (not happy with it) but at least she had all the info out in the open to make her decision, though he should have been more timely in his confession. But that's for Hannah to decide. And if she knew fully about all of his bs and still made the decision to choose him, that's on her and I hope she's happy. If she did choose Jed knowing full well of all of his past, then I'm actually happy she didn't choose Tyler. I'm saying this because of Hannah's crappy dating history of always needing to be the fixer or the caregiver, and Tyler is not that kind of dude and deserves more. He deserves a strong bad azz woman.
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Do you think there will in fact be SM uproar at the end of the season, based solely on Haley's coming forward at this juncture? I'm actually thinking that story dropped at this point to take the edge off it as the ATFR gets closer. I'm thinking there will have to be revelation of some concrete evidence of post FRC groping et al for there to be a huge backlash...? I think many of us who are just turned off by Jed will simply not watch...? Jmo
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It’s so interesting to note that this show has a lot of footage and what they’ve decided to hear is the story they want to tell. With the number of great guys this season, is anyone surprised that on night one they decided to spend time on Hannah talking to Scott about him having a girlfriend? And ad nauseam about Luke P.
Hannah might be a glutton for punishment and TPTB knew what was coming!
Hannah might be a glutton for punishment and TPTB knew what was coming!
The truth is rarely pure and never simple ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Billysmom wrote:Do you think there will in fact be SM uproar at the end of the season, based solely on Haley's coming forward at this juncture? I'm actually thinking that story dropped at this point to take the edge off it as the ATFR gets closer. I'm thinking there will have to be revelation of some concrete evidence of post FRC groping et al for there to be a huge backlash...? I think many of us who are just turned off by Jed will simply not watch...? Jmo
I don't know I'm torn on this.... one point being, I think they put all the Luke drama out there in the promo because there is more major stuff to come, and that would only be Jed. The story coming out in People reduces the shock/drama and already gives people an opinion on Jed, and then the producers can't control the story/narrative.
On the other hand, I don't know if Jed does come clean on the show given his tweet about Scott "sucking" over girlfriend drama night one. He wouldn't say that, at least I hope not, if he had just gone through the same thing.
If Hannah keeps Jed, whether he spills during filming or after I think Hannah is screwed either way. If she keeps him I don't think people will understand the contradicting opinion between Scott's behavior and Jed's Jed's behavior IMO is worse because he had an opportunity to come clean and didn't and then still goes on to question Hannah's decision making with Luke. "knowing the person you are, how can you keep someone like Luke", man oh man his comments annoy me!
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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
If I were Jed, I’d feel very, VERY insecure watching Tyler and Hannah on screen. Like this is probably likely why he isn’t watching. Cause Tyler + Luke aka the best kisser in the house who was supposed to be F1, and yikes on bikes, talk about luke warm, default F1.
Because I agree. I’ve watched pretty much every season, and Tyler and Hannah have some of the most natural, hottest, mutual chemistry I’ve ever seen. Like it’s insane for this tv show. I don’t know how she turned that away, I truly don’t. But agree, maybe just not being totally in control, because where she leads everyone else, Tyler takes control with her, and it’s a far more mutual give and take. And maybe that scared her. I also think that this insane connection plus the fact that Tyler just wasn’t her normal type scared the crap out of this 24 year old child. What she had with Tyler was real, adult, passionate, potentially crazy kind of love. To be with this, and accept it, she’d have to move out of her comfort zone. And that probably really scared her. She’s still basically a kid, fresh out of college, so maybe this freaked her out, and she defaulted to what knows. To something she had more control in. To a situation where moving to Nashville is less scary, in a situation she felt like she could steer.
I think she’s nuts, but her life...
JMO.
Because I agree. I’ve watched pretty much every season, and Tyler and Hannah have some of the most natural, hottest, mutual chemistry I’ve ever seen. Like it’s insane for this tv show. I don’t know how she turned that away, I truly don’t. But agree, maybe just not being totally in control, because where she leads everyone else, Tyler takes control with her, and it’s a far more mutual give and take. And maybe that scared her. I also think that this insane connection plus the fact that Tyler just wasn’t her normal type scared the crap out of this 24 year old child. What she had with Tyler was real, adult, passionate, potentially crazy kind of love. To be with this, and accept it, she’d have to move out of her comfort zone. And that probably really scared her. She’s still basically a kid, fresh out of college, so maybe this freaked her out, and she defaulted to what knows. To something she had more control in. To a situation where moving to Nashville is less scary, in a situation she felt like she could steer.
I think she’s nuts, but her life...
JMO.
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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
avacaroline wrote:alwayscooking wrote:avacaroline wrote:More thoughts and speculation. Because it’s just impossible to understand how she chose NotTyler.
I’ve gone back and watched all the time between Hannah and both Tyler and Jed. Tyler’s attention to her and his eye contact and body language literally took my breath away. The way he searches for her in a room and how he looks at her......his feelings for her are palpable. However, Hannah doesn’t seem to meet his intensity. Although she’s insanely attracted to him and can feel the chemistry, she doesn’t know what to do with it sometimes. She often turns her head away from him in I guess might be shyness....as though she doesn’t trust that he would really be that in to her? Like it’s almost all TOO much for her. With Jed I feel nothing from him. He’s a contestant trying to say and do the right things to move on to the next week. In fact, he seems very uncomfortable around her. For Hannah, I feel like Jed is what she’s always known. She recognizes her feelings when she’s around him so it’s.... safe. She knows what to do with it so she can fall in to her role with that relationship very easily.
I speculate that all of the Luke drama took up an incredible amount of time and energy so once she was finally able to get past that relationship, she was virtually out of time. After watching the sit down with Chris Harrison that was filmed after hometowns, I believe that Luke was still her F1. His was the last FS date so for things to blow up at that point, it doesn’t give her a lot of time to get caught up with the other relationships. I think Hannah panicked and went in to “perfect Hannah” mode. “The show must go on!” She has said herself that she often tried to take over production. That’s Stage Hannah for sure! Jed was the known and Tyler was the unknown. I don’t think that Hannah can yet recognize something as good and pure as what Tyler could offer her. I would even bet that if she would watch back (instead of sleep through the episodes) she would be shocked to see the chemistry they had. It’s all very tragic to me.
Anyway, those are my random thoughts to add. All speculation and my opinion. I’m not even sure I want to watch and see how it all ends. I’m just kind of not even in to it anymore. Ugh. How disappointing.
What you said is so real and kind of what I was thinking too. I watched everything back again. And while I do see her attraction to Jed more clearly now, her attraction to Tyler is different. With Jed Hannah is in control, and with Tyler she is not and it scares her In all my years watching this show, and that''s pretty much all of them, Tyler and Hannah's chemistry is off the charts. Go back and watch their dancing part of their 1-1 in slo-mo, the eye contact and the intensity is insane! I don't think Hannah, that is always in control, knew how to handle that. Which is sad because it is so Noah and Allie.
Yes! 100% agree with you! I’ve never ever witnessed chemistry like that. Watching him with her literally takes my breath away. She just didn’t know what to do with it.
Such a good point about how they relate to each other, and complete each other!. Even watching the interview with Hannah and Chris Harrison, he was shaking his head and nodding yes, when she talked about Tyler. Seriously, how can a smart girl like her not see the forest for the trees? Someone like Tyler has many layers, his humor and way with people reminds me so of my Dad, and is emotionally intelligent enough to know what is going on in her head. And Jed well, Big Hat No Cattle as they say, and just as narcissistic as Luke.
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Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
It actually makes me mad, when I think about it. That Jed’s deceitful ways basically stole from her what she could have had with Tyler. He sucks for that. JMO.
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If anyone has the time maybe a night one revisit to see where and who the camera pans on when Hannah got rid of Scott., to see the guys reactions. Was Jed shown?
Might’ve been a full screen the way these contestants are these days.
Might’ve been a full screen the way these contestants are these days.
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Idlemess wrote:If anyone has the time maybe a night one revisit to see where and who the camera pans on when Hannah got rid of Scott., to see the guys reactions. Was Jed shown?
Might’ve been a full screen the way these contestants are these days.
I did a full recap of that, I went through the whole episode and made SC's of every time the camera panned to Jed... let me go find it
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