Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - Episodes #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Bill's date now...I still haven't seen Amy. His dog is adorable, it all starts well but how can he just say Amy is someone he met at the park. Cannot he said that they are good friends and then explain what happened. I know I have said before that there are my people who remain great friends with their exes (usually when the relationship was short and they dated when they were young), but that doesn't mean you take them to a show to have their approval in order for you to date a girl! That is ridiculous, disrespectful and unnecessary. His parents were probably overseas but imo  his siblings probably don't want Ali in their family and perhaps they told Bill about all the rumours about Ali -which only worsened while he was filming- and convinced him to get himself eliminated, so IMO introducing his ex to Ali and taking her to her ex's place was Bill's way to make sure he doesn't win.

Also, Ali should know that the families probably know already about what happened between Grant and her so she should stop pretending she doesn't know why the family isn't there or why they are harsh to her.

Sundy wrote:Oh and Charlie said in passing ‘I know who is left and it’s not going to end well’ and ‘she is going to make the same mistakes’

That's his ego talking. Strange how he is fine with Taite but not Bill or Todd. Makes me think he and Taite were like frat bros who'd be willing to bang the same chick and laugh about it like Bobette posted.

I do NOT understand how Taite is still close with Charlie and supporting him like he has in IG stories and things. How can he win and be like that if he's with Ali? It makes zero sense

Enough wrote:So Charlie has now limit the number of response on his IG. He knew he will get hell

He's had his comments on his IG limited for weeks now. What a loser.

Okay, as usual the producers  have exaggerated things! Bill and Amy went on two dates! Two! Hahaha, how does that make someone an ex-girlfriend! Even Ali is over the top with it. That is not an ex at all! That is crazy to think! I guess Ali considers going on two dates with a guy a 'relationship'....oh, of course she does, she is already in love with Taite after one date!        Anyway, In spite of it this girl was very aggressive so she may still have feelings for Bill. Admittedly, Amy made valid questions but she was too intense and she obviously dislikes Ali. I think Ali should be upset but not because Bill went on two dates with Amy but because there was no need for him to introduce her to this particular girl. The only thing that can justify Amy's presence is that she and his friend told him to be cautious about Ali for what they learnt while he was away,  and they convinced him to get out of the situation and that was Bill's way to deal with it instead of just walking out our declining a rose during a rose ceremony.

To be honest, this date was very unpleasant to see....now Charlie's date is about to start.

Charlie reason for not to introduce Ali to his family:

The actual reason was because my grandmother is really sick, she has terminal cancer, and the night before I received a phone call to say that my whole family had to rush up to Newcastle because she was critical. So yeah, basically I had the option to replace my family with friends for that night and I didn't really think that was right because I'd wanted her to meet my actual family. In the real world I would have just cancelled the date that day.

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/reality-tv/the-bachelorette-australia/charlie-newling-leaves-bachelorette-2018-52312

Okay, here is what I think of Charlie's first part of his date: It was great, yet it made clear to me the reasons why Charlie seems like a dangerous man for a woman who wants a healthy relationship with a man. IMO Charlie is the type of guy who can take you to an amazing date one day and who the next day can me your day seem like hell. This is a guy who the longer you see the more he hurts you I can spot a guy like him from miles away...now the second part of the date is starting... second part which ends there

Charlie is dangerous. He will own you if you are in a relationship with him. Also he will be a controlling freak because you can't disagree with him.

Enough wrote:Charlie reason for not to introduce Ali to his family:

The actual reason was because my grandmother is really sick, she has terminal cancer, and the night before I received a phone call to say that my whole family had to rush up to Newcastle because she was critical. So yeah, basically I had the option to replace my family with friends for that night and I didn't really think that was right because I'd wanted her to meet my actual family. In the real world I would have just cancelled the date that day.

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/reality-tv/the-bachelorette-australia/charlie-newling-leaves-bachelorette-2018-52312

And if he had of said that instead of the fd up mind games it may have been a different story. He chose his bed.... bet Nick Cummins is feeling pretty happy now. No longer the most hated man in Oz

Okay, I don't like Charlie but he has made a valid point. I truly think that after the guys went home and spent  some time alone they learnt all those extra details about Ali in LA and some of the guys just didn't feel that they really wanted her anymore. Has this ever happened before? During Georgia's season there was an uncomfortable situation. I am sure that Courtney didn't want to introduce Georgia to his parents because he wasn't in love with her and it was also obvious that his family didn't like Georgia at all, but Georgia didn't have all the baggage that Ali does have. Also, was it during Sam F's season that Ali only met Alex's family...I remember the videos, but he was British so his excuse was that his family wasn't around but he still didn't introduce Sam to his friends, did he? Flo introduced Matty to his friends as well. I just think that the families didn't really like Ali...the nicest one in the end seemed Todd's family. All JMO - The Rose ceremony is about to start now.

Wow, that was intense....the rose ceremony. Ali knew already Charlie wasn't going to be his F1 and she feels stronger about Bill but somehow I felt that she wanted to eliminate Bill today because she was hurt so she wanted for Charlie to fight for her...she was still going to eliminate Charlie if not as top 4 as top 3. I also think that Charlie was partially honest...but I think Charlie was trying to present himself as a good match for the past female contestants and even for The Bachelor.

As I said earlier, what a steaming pile of horse dung that episode was. Todd is lovely, and his sister put in a worthy performance that will assure TPTB that she will give good TV at MTP next year, but blind Freddy can see she’s not going to choose him.
 Having said that, Taite’s sister was also an excellent b!tch, however as Taite is not, and was never going to be the Bachelor next year it doesn’t matter. Ali wants him so much that he could have jumped on the table, taken a dump there and she would have been delighted with it.
Bills parents were probably always going to be overseas at the time it was filmed, but I must say that his siblings displayed excellent judgement in not appearing on the show. Amy possibly still has feelings for Bill that she’s trying to cover up by being “mates”, her questioning was OTT, and Ali really had her back up, and Bill would have definitely gone, if not for.....
Charlie. Oh Charlie. Did you not realise what show you were on? Did you think that if you threw your little hissy fit that Ali would end the show 2 eps early so she could be exclusive with you? IMO, Charlie saw the writing on the wall. He knew he wasn’t going to be F1, so he threw a tantrum, he mansplained, and hopefully gave the women on Australia a good warning not to date him. Ali dealt with him well, and I’m glad he’s gone.
Seriously, what an anticlimactic final week this is going to be! No suspense at all, even for the general public. Bill must go at F3 after tonight’s performance, and no matter how thick they lay Todd on, there can be no other choice but Taite for F1. Which is good, because I don’t get a good vibe off him, and I didn’t really want Ali to pick someone I liked.

Enough wrote:Charlie reason for not to introduce Ali to his family:

The actual reason was because my grandmother is really sick, she has terminal cancer, and the night before I received a phone call to say that my whole family had to rush up to Newcastle because she was critical. So yeah, basically I had the option to replace my family with friends for that night and I didn't really think that was right because I'd wanted her to meet my actual family. In the real world I would have just cancelled the date that day.

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/reality-tv/the-bachelorette-australia/charlie-newling-leaves-bachelorette-2018-52312

I don't believe that was the reason, he could have acted more normally and told that to Ali in a nice way and it would have been much better. What is his excuse for not disclosing the fact that he has a kid to Ali? This guy is dangerous, he makes ridiculous excuses for his conduct. He only respects his beliefs. I know the show is edited, we all know but there are things that cannot be edited. I think Dasha will regret this later but hey, some women have an ability to enter into dysfunctional relationships and to them that becomes the norm...those are the same women who go and claim that they are no good guys out there, those are the women who never take responsibilities for their choices. I can understand a woman picking a bad guy once even twice, perhaps even thrice if she started dating during her teen year....but someone who consistently makes the wrong choices? That is a complete different story.