Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - SM Media #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Bobette wrote:

Popcorn For All wrote: The problem I see with Ali is that it feels as if she only lived to work for her looks and that is why she ends up looking so odd :S

I agree @Popcorn For All and then we have her saying things like this:

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... completely contradicting everything I see when I look at her which is IMO a complete focus on the physical/superficial.

She said she did her boobs to please a guy. She would do so to fill her lips too. I think she was always the pretty blonde of the family and friends and she always got the superficial attention.

I do not know if she is smart or not intellectually. Maybe she is, maybe she is not. Most probably she is also looking for a fit guy who is into muscles and fitness and maybe she did not come across guys with the full package.

She wants what everyone wants: to be loved regardless of what we look like... reality is that when we are young, it is more superficial and look matters.

I have no doubt that she wants love and not lust. But look is what attract people, then it is up to us to make a selection.

Ali falls in love/lust almost immediately. She does not have the capacity to distinct a good guy from a bad guy. She lives in lalaland and then all of a sudden, she fell from the tree and cry river because of her own fault. If she is blind from start, she cannot expect to find a good guy or by luck.

I think she wants a good guy with all the romance around him but at the end of the day, she think he will bore her so IMO she sticks to what she is used to.... dreaming for perfect prince charming.

she needs therapy. and I mean it in a nice way. It is not normal to fall in love in minutes.

Popcorn For All wrote:

HEA wrote:I find it interesting that Charlie was not part of the BBQ though... and Bill who is supposed to be a really bad boy, to be invited with Dan and Taite. .

Hello @HEA, I am confused by your statement, why do you think Bill was portrayed as 'really bad boy'? IMO Bill wasn't supposed to be a 'really bad' boy, I completely disagree with your perception for I think the opposite is the case: the audience see that there is conflict between the really 'bad boy', Charlie, who little by little has revealed his true colours, and Charlie's victim: Bill, who tried by all means to avoid drama but did not succeed because Charlie, his bully, is delusional and has some small support which comes from his friend Paddy, Pete and even Taite!  The only reason why some people disliked Bill initially is because of what Charlie was saying of Bill, and because initially Charlie looked to many -never to me- like a good serious guy but now we have all seen what Charlie is, so now the support has moved from Charlie to Bill and rightly so.  All Bill has done is to try to avoid conflict with Charlie, but Charlie  is obsessed with Bill because initially Charlie saw Bill as his only true competition.  That is why, Bill, imo,  was never portrayed as  the 'really bad boy', which is what you believe. Finally, in the last episode we see how kind Bill was, when Dan, Paddy and Todd faced elimination, Bill looked at them and whispered: 'Good luck, guys'. The producers also want us to know that bill is nice and had many friends in the house and clearly Bill was not part of Charlie's clique: Taite, Paddy, Pete.  That is why what we will be seeing imo is that, out of the top 4, the bad guy: Charlie, will be kicked out, and Bill, his victim, will stay there, and deservingly so. All JMO

Charlie became a bad boy but at the beginning of the season, he was the protectof... helping ali to go thru her fears, having her back by ratting, etc

THEN it changed and from protector, he became a jealous guy.

Bill on episode 2 was rolling his eyes making fun of guys, stealing date...


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THEN on ITM, we started to see a guy who said things about Charlie that as viewers we all thought

so me too I totally disagree with your POV. I think the role switched: charlie was good became bad and bill was bad became good...which goes with the theme of the season: will ali pick a good guy.

At the beginning of the season it was this


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but at the end it was this although I am pretty sure that none of the guys were ''enemies''... probably annoyed to live in the same mansion for weeks. I am pretty sure that they all liked each other.

I also think that once they are back to their respective places, the relationship is very superficial and they joke with each other thru SM but they are not best buddies. They all shared an experience and this is the only thing they have if they are not living in the same area to move forward to real friendship. So for me the Charlie/Taite is moot. Yes they probably had fun together but I do not see them being besties in real life. However, they may both be fame whores and use each other, that, I think is very possible.


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So I was also sarcastic when I said that Charlie was not invited at the BBQ and Bill was because it seems that Charlie was the bad guy from the start and Bill was edited to look like a bad guy when in fact he never was.

I was not spoiled so my analysis is just from a regular viewer who just watched the show and did not read DM or SM

Didn't know that Todd want to be a police officer. It seems he is now training to be one. My opinion anyway from this story:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/entertainment/tv/bachelorettes-taite-and-todd-spill-on-hometown-visits/ar-BBPkEUj

But there is one thing that could stand in the way of a happy ever after: his career. For Todd, becoming a police officer is, for the time being, an important priority.

"Our timelines don't match up perfectly," he says. "But in terms of the new career, I could be settled in that within 18 months. It would be a little bit of wait for her, but that's what relationships are about – compromise."

If this true, sorry ladies, I can't see him being the next Bachelor. He can't take the time off

Enough wrote:Didn't know that Todd want to be a police officer.  It seems he is now training to be one. My opinion anyway from this story:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/entertainment/tv/bachelorettes-taite-and-todd-spill-on-hometown-visits/ar-BBPkEUj

But there is one thing that could stand in the way of a happy ever after: his career. For Todd, becoming a police officer is, for the time being, an important priority.

"Our timelines don't match up perfectly," he says. "But in terms of the new career, I could be settled in that within 18 months. It would be a little bit of wait for her, but that's what relationships are about – compromise."

If this true, sorry ladies, I can't see him being the next Bachelor. He can't take the time off

A disaster for us, but society will be blessed. We need cops who are truly good people like Todd!

Get in line to be arrested girls

Just like Fireman Cam who have to rescue chicks

Enough wrote:Didn't know that Todd want to be a police officer.  It seems he is now training to be one. My opinion anyway from this story:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/entertainment/tv/bachelorettes-taite-and-todd-spill-on-hometown-visits/ar-BBPkEUj

But there is one thing that could stand in the way of a happy ever after: his career. For Todd, becoming a police officer is, for the time being, an important priority.

"Our timelines don't match up perfectly," he says. "But in terms of the new career, I could be settled in that within 18 months. It would be a little bit of wait for her, but that's what relationships are about – compromise."

If this true, sorry ladies, I can't see him being the next Bachelor. He can't take the time off

I'm not sure Todd is Bachelor material IMO.  If he is still mulling over career choices and is indecisive about that, how can he be prepared to make a decision about a partner/soulmate/love of your life etc.  I don't know if that would resonate with a lot of girls.  I think he is too young and hasn't had enough life experience yet.  BTW, nothing wrong in taking your time over career choices.

sprout wrote:Get in line to be arrested girls

BRB... doing a crime.

Well, I find both very mature. One says the truth which is more time to know if they are a true match and the other to make sure to have a steady job so the future is smooth and compromising is definitely key in a couple.

I liked those answers.

I won't be able to be much around today, dear ladies, but I am sure you are going to do a terrific sleuthing and will have fun here, especially the star sleuths: @allaboutlove @bobette @sundy and all the new sleuths, like myself. Have fun today and I am leaving lots of popcorn for you to enjoy ;)  Oh, I cannot find the popcorn icon so perhaps one of the moderators or our administrator wants to add it here...in the meantime I live you some cocktails and roses! Have a stupendous time sleuthing and speculating what comes next  

Of course he wants to protect and serve  Just like Cam. What wonderful men! Wish the world had more like them 

I just realized that article only wrote about Taite and Todd and their HTDs. They didn't even bother with Charlie or Bill because they know they're both going home soon  

Bill's ex will be on his HTD (wonder if there is something still there like how Rob and his ex Carly were watching episodes together and she said she still has feelings for him). Charlie sent home next. Is Charlie the one whose family is not there for HTDs? Any media articles about that?