Bachelorette Russia - Olga Buzova - Episodes - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

And about the “war” between Valja and Sasha, that confirms what I was feeling, reading and my comments already. Walja seems to me like a guy who has principles and is polite and respectful. I loved his gift for her...not gonna spoil for others now.

@Sprite More answers to some of your questions.

After the ceremony they all had no idea if Sasha stayed or not because the producers hid him for three days in a hotel room. So after that he appeared in front of the guys on the bike. The men weren´t surprised at all and they reacted rather cool. They made some jokes about him like "oh look our pizza boy is coming" and that was it. Later they asked Sasha what happened on the ceremony, he told him what happened and that Olga was crying. In that moment Denis stood up and said "I don`t want to hear that cry story any longer because it feels not right. It´s not ok to make her cry she should cry only happy tears."
Valja said in his ITM about Sasha: "Oh everything he is saying is just such a bla bla bla it`s like air non existent."

Marina stopped the competition because Evgeny broke already his third ax and Denis broke his as well. And there were no axes left anymore. So Denis started to chop the wood with his hands and Marina said we need to stop it´s against the rules. So they were standing there and were discussing what to do. They needed to chop the wood for 15 minutes but they did it only for three minutes. And big Sasha said that it´s the problem of the guys who broke their ax and that the others should continue to chop it. Valja, Denis and Evgeny said that it´s not fair and that Olga then should decide with whom she wants to go on a date. Marina had the final word and she said she will ask Olga to choose someone for a date and that Olga can choose anyone of them.
Later the guys discussed Sasha`s like they thought not fair suggestion to continue with the competition without the guys which ax broke. They said that he should be the one who be quiet because he basically stole a date last week by doing nothing. So that´s how Big Evgeny ended on the date with Olga. She choose him because she wanted to know where they are standing and if something will evolve like it did with Denis.

Astrobach wrote:@natik Thanks for all the great info again.
l Have watched the 4th and have of course many questions and here are some of them...

@ 40:00 Question about what was said with Timothy : at one point Evgeny$ talks to T and he alluded to something money, or millionaire, finances etc. which Walja picks up in An ITM and choose to seal his lips, like he knows something but is choosing to stay silent.

Later in when Olga is in the room with the men, Denis takes her outside and somehow, Walja decides to go and interrupt their private time and gets her to come back inside....? Why?

She also gets to sit with Sasha ( in front of the fireplace) and he tries to get her close to her, they have a hug but what else is their conversation?

At the end when she is talking to the men and she asks a question to Walja and he replies ‘Denis’ what is that and what’s Denis and Olga say ...?
And you mentioned the IG likes from Sasha, did it come up at the end of the 4th episode or later? I saw that Denis has a IG POST WITH Grinev today.... wonder why?

Evgeny was bragging about his money and asked Timofey if money is an issue for Olga. He meant if a man is rich or not. Timofey said something like oh guys come one nowadays it´s not difficult to ear money if you are a clever businessmen. And Evgeny answered that he is already rich and pointed out to Valja and mentioned that Valja was in the past working as a server. That is why he chose to sail his lips on his ITM because he thought it`s not worth the talk because it is a stupid situation.

It´s simple because they didn´t wanted to give Denis more time to talk to her. Valja is a good guy but he has a habit to overdoing it with his principles. At times it doesn´t seem sincere but more strategical so he can look good in the eyes of the others. If you know what I mean.

Olga asked Valja who out of the guys (except him) likes her the most, she asked his opinion and Valja answered it is Denis.

I am gonna translate their conversation but she said to him also that he needs to man up because she saw that the other men are not respecting him. They are not taking him serious. And that she doesn´t like that he can´t stand up for himself.
That´s actually a paradox because Denis is melting like ice in front of the other men when Olga is in the room but the men are still respecting him. They are seeing him like a buddy a real man. So it shows that Denis is capable to balance it. With the guys he is their man, their buddy but with Olga he is a man in love who is doing maybe silly things but that is ok because he is falling for her. So he is doing what a man in that situation will do for a woman and the other men understand it and accept it.

She mentioned the IG likes during the ceremony when she called Sasha to come to her.

Denis IG post has nothing to do with it. It was just fun from Denis. Regarding the dynamic between the men now. There are basically two groups who are agains Valja and a little group who is supporting Valja. And Denis is in between those group dynamics because he is buddy with everyone.

Thanks dear @natik!

Wait, 2 groups about Valja? I thought, there would be about Sasha? Some are against Valja and others ok. What about Grinev???

@Sprite Ok where did I left of?!

Marina said that Olga was not there because she feared to distract the guys but I think she couldn`t make it because of her schedule.

They asked Timofey about what type of a guy she prefers and what qualities in a man are important for her. He answered that loyalty is the absolute number one quality for her in a man. He said that Olga is very conservative and old fashioned in a relationship and that she is absolute loyal when she is in a relationship she never cheated on her partners.
Valja going by the ITM`s of the other guys acted different when they had a talk with Timofey. The other men said that he was more friendly and talk active with him what is not typical for him when he is alone with the guys. And they didn`t showed us what her ex said to her about the guys. Maybe it was too obvious and they decided to let it on the cutting floor. I don`t know.

She explained them that she sent Big Evgeny home and told them what happened and they understood it and weren`t as shocked as they should have been. Maybe they were even relieved because I can see them thinking that Big Evgeny could have been a strong competitor for them.

Evgeny$$ came of too strong. He was basically in her face and she tried to keep him at distance.

Those wine glasses were more symbolic like a tribute to Toscana region.

Yes he caught her after the ceremony and gave her the flowers. It was clearly unplanned and they didn´t wanted to show us what they were talking about. They showed us only a split second of that conversation but we couldn´t hear anything.

You know it´s already a running joke that Denis is ripping every flower he sees on the fields

Oh that Valja and Sergej conversation was an interesting one. I am gonna translate it word for word. So it will come for sure and you will know what was discussed there. They didn´t spoke about Denis. It was more like a war declaration from Valja.

Astrobach wrote:Thanks dear @natik!

Wait, 2 groups about Valja? I thought, there would be about Sasha? Some are against Valja and others ok. What about Grinev???

You are welcome lady!

Something happened and I don`t know what but it made some of the guys turn against Valja. So for example the bald Sasha, Sasha blue eyes, Sergej the host and I think Evgeny$$ are not on good terms with Valja. And Valja only respects Denis, the big Evgeny and the twins.
Evgeny the big one, the twins and Denis are really good friends but in general Denis is on good terms with everyone.
Olga mentioned in episode four that Big Evgeny told her that he is friends with Denis.
On another note big Evgeny wrote his "goodbye" post on IG:



"I don`t regret anything!!! It´s life - it happens! I sincerely wish you happiness! To be around HIM...the one with whom you are happy...you are worthy of it. And HE too...and let it finally be two half`s in one heart. And remember, if what, I am always here for you as a friend."

And Olga didn´t said in the episode anything bad about him. In her ITM she said that he is a great, charming, smart and interesting man but she thinks that he is not her person and she is not his. And that she wishes him only the best and happiness.

Source:
https://www.instagram.com/pesennikov/

Oh by the way....you are welcome ladies

Credit: @ThisisloveLB

Thanks again @natik

I can see and really enjoy the camaraderie that is developing with the guys. And Walja has always been a little on his own, not mixing in as much, more reserved. Partly more uptight, partly maybe strategic, also I think there is some military background maybe that plays in and cause some frictions and tension between them? Like they had different rankings or role that clash.  Maybe I am stretching it...?
As always, it’s very entertaining and enjoyable to watch unfold.


Oh la la!

Episode 4 pics:











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Thank you @Natik. It is very interesting. Keep it coming.

I am not surprised that Denis is friends with everyone. I can tell that the others don't seem to begrudge him his time with Olga and he even seems to be the guy that smooths things over when the others start going at it. I thought that he ran after again once the rose/wine ceremony was over. He is a very attentive guy and seems to be in full on wooing mode.

@natik quick question about the music on that episode.
One, on the date with Evgeny, he puts on one of her song and they both sing it... which one is it and what are the lyrics about? Then the little serenade with 2 guitar players in the countryside, do you know what that Russian song is? It sounded like a melancholic ballad, in Russian...
I also notice now the different pieces of music that goes on with different characters or when it’s romantic or dramatic. Very good scoring so far.
Again, thanks!

Sprite wrote:Thank you @Natik. It is very interesting. Keep it coming.

I am not surprised that Denis is friends with everyone. I can tell that the others don't seem to begrudge him his time with Olga and he even seems to be the guy that smooths things over when the others start going at it. I thought that he ran after again once the rose/wine ceremony was over. He is a very attentive guy and seems to be in full on wooing mode.

You described it on point that is his nature. He is by far the the most liked one by the viewers because he is pure regarding TV and showbiz. The viewers are feeling that his intentions are sincere. They seem to relate with him.