Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - Screencaps - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

@Sundy snap! I forgot about Sasha/F1 and his painting 2nd SD. Wow they really are giving Todd some F1-like dates then (not to mention that heart emoji!) 


@Bobette I thought the airboat was light blue and similar to the one @Sundy posted. I think the tone of the SC is diluted so makes the boat more white but could be wrong 

AllAboutLove wrote:These SCs are together - man in blue shirt. Ali wearing ear plugs (those airboats are loud on the wetlands)





Whose hand is this?  


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Possible this wildlands for wetland safari or something? Could be a regular date or FD or LCD.

Sundy wrote:Like this. https://www.wildlands.com.au

AllAboutLove wrote:I wonder if this is not a SD then maybe sketching him in the semi-nude due to paper and pencils? It's a bit odd though if she is sketching him only and not both sketching each other?

If it's a GD though it could be something else? I noticed Ali was looking at someone else and then at Todd (maybe my eyes missed it). I recall that Sam Frost's season on GD with Richie they had mud on each other and Richie got SQT which was in the hot tub so it may be a similar activity but minus the mud and sketching GD or something? 

 

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@AllAboutLove I've got it

Check out the rectangular windows.  This is the inside portion of his single date where she picks him up in a sportscar, IMO.  






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27 JULY 2018 SYDNEY AUSTRALIA
Bachelorette Ali Oetjen pictured on a solo date with a suitor at a Mosman residence with sweeping views of Sydney Harbour.

AllAboutLove wrote:Could Curzon Hall be a location for a GD or date? What about Todd with Ali in her dress - looks like a wedding dress and Curzon Hall has wedding events


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Wondering where this fits it... Currently going through each contestant's SCs to try piece together when they may occur...

This isn't manicured enough to be Curzon Hall IMO and there's a lot of wild bushland in the background.  Has the feel of a final date and the trees do have an NT feel to them but Todd would be sweating buckets wearing a suit in that heat so IDK.  

I wrote a long post in Todd's thread and lost it but trying to figure out whether this is a first SD or 2nd SD (or SQT).

Filming started June 27..... Matrix has this date as July 27.... That's a whole month later which is a long time. Only conclusion I have is:
- it's a 2nd SD and Todd gets a first SD earlier on
- it's a 1st SD and like Matty J who got his 1st SD in Ep 6 (and 2nd SD in ep 8). If it's a first SD then it is likely Todd gets SQT earlier on like Matty J did (he won the trapeze GD on ep 3).

 
27 JULY 2018 SYDNEY AUSTRALIA WWW.MATRIXPICTURES.COM.AU 
Bachelorette Ali Oetjen pictured on a solo date with a suitor at a Mosman residence with sweeping views of Sydney Harbour. 

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Check out the rectangular windows.  This is the inside portion of his single date where she picks him up in a sportscar, IMO.  

@Bobette Awesome sleuthing! Wow so likely later part of the date? Feels like a 1st SD, possibly 2nd SD?

AllAboutLove wrote:

Check out the rectangular windows.  This is the inside portion of his single date where she picks him up in a sportscar, IMO.  

@Bobette Awesome sleuthing! Wow so likely later part of the date? Feels like a 1st SD, possibly 2nd SD?

Yes that's what I'm thinking.  No wonder she's got such a smug look on her face if she's just been ogling him half naked.  

1st SD or 2nd SD is the question.  IMO it's obvious the producers wanted Todd to go far but IMO just as obvious he's not her usual dark/masculine type so quite possible he gets a Matty J "late run" edit once she went through all the guys more her type.

But we have so many other screencaps of him (fencing etc) that I'm inclined to think he might get two SDs?

This isn't manicured enough to be Curzon Hall IMO and there's a lot of wild bushland in the background.  Has the feel of a final date and the trees do have an NT feel to them but Todd would be sweating buckets wearing a suit in that heat so IDK.  no idea

For the s/cap of Todd and Ali in the wedding dress you said final date so F3 date? Not sure it would be a F3 date usually those aren't that formal but it could be. It's seems too formal a bit for a LCD (last chance date that F2s get). 

Other option could be it's earlier in the season? First date before the Mosman residence date/sketching and dressing up or maybe after that? I remember MattJ dressed up with G for his 2nd SD so it could be that? I could see them doing that for his first date or SQT if they want to highlight the prince charming aspect/marriage and then get more serious with future dates?  

Where does the fencing s/cap come in then? Maybe they're just not showing the kissing ones earlier and they go at it early on too (can't blame her )


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Boat in the top end seems to have a blue tinge in front right corner yes?

Yes sorry @AllAboutLove think I got my FD LCD acronyms mixed up.  I think Todd's suit rules out it being in the NT anyway.

I'm actually wondering if it might be on the grounds of the mansion?  Just been looking at some pics of the residence (Nelly's Farm https://nellysfarm.com/) and it does have thick bushland all around it with some trees low to the ground like in the pic.  



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There's an IG video of the property here



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Still no idea where the fencing fits though.  

Sundy wrote:Boat in the top end seems to have a blue tinge in front right corner yes?

It looks white to me but as @AllAboutLove says the colour might be washed out in the footage.  For me the shape has been the hardest thing to try to match - I'm finding a lot of airboats with square noses but not many with the tapered nose ("boat nose" not really a technical maritime term but you know what I mean ).  Also the fewer number of seats seems unusual - most of them have 6-8 seats.  And finally that concave bit at the front where it dips down is a different shape to the ones I'm finding.



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If the FRC was in the NT, Ali and Todd kissing in the water could be LCD? There are lots of waterholes and waterfalls up there, and they have the greenish look to them.

Dirty Street Pie wrote:If the FRC was in the NT, Ali and Todd kissing in the water could be LCD? There are lots of waterholes and waterfalls up there, and they have the greenish look to them.

Yes that's what I'm thinking too @Dirty Street Pie - I can't see where else it would fit otherwise.  Also the level of, shall we say, "intimacy" in the waterfall clip implies they've had a bit of practice leading up to it IMO.   Dem kisses are hot.