Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - Screencaps - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Todd's Sportscar date was filmed July 27 so it was filmed 3 days after the Ep6 GD/July 24 so it has to be in either Ep7 or Ep 8. 

IA the fencing and Cinderella SCs are more romantic but not sure if the timeline fits better with that or with the sportscar date? The fencing SC kissing is full on so not sure if it is part of Cinderella date or something else.  

Todd has a LOT of SCs still so there has to be a lot of him for Eps7-9 before HTDs/Ep10. Could be Todd has multiple moments (SD, SQT) in next week episodes which I am all for  


ETA: Season Preview SCs of Todd (more upthread already sleuthed and below)
Cinderella SCs at night

 
Fencing SCs - speculated upthread to be a SD, FD, or SQT (time of day unlikely to be HTD as it is at sunset).

Hugging SC - speculated to be HTD or FD but could be a SD (Ali does the jump-hug on SD with Taite)

my scs tenplay.com


See below for Sportscar date SCs and upthread SCs for waterfall and kissing sleuthed for finale (F2) Last Chance Date in Northern Territories

Based on the preview and the fact that Rob’s last SC are accounted for and Ali has red lips and the huge earrings and is crying at a rose ceremony I think Rob gets eliminated on Wednesday...

Oooh good catch @brownravens   Just watched the episode and definitely Rob's SCs are complete in Ep7.

Posting some SCs of the Ep7 preview. Ali says "TBH I'm not impressed with Robert" and Osher narrates saying as a favorite begins to fade. 



Ali's earrings matching with season preview SCs upthread (posted below)

Charlie is being obsessed/stage 10 clinger. Ali tells him "she's got this"...already seeing a decline in their relationship




my SCs tenplay.com 

IA then that it's likely Rob is eliminated (unless no one is). The only other contestants are Dan, Daniel, and Paddy who have no SCs from the season preview. Other than Taite and Todd (sleuthed to be final 2), Charlie and Bill still have SCs so they're likely in F4 (makes sense as SB had these four ahead of Rob in odds favorites).

Preview for Ep7 SCs: (Osher says "next time" on the Bachelorette so I assume the SCs are only about Ep7)

Rob and Ali = SCs above look like at the mansion so could be a short one on one time during the GD (he puts a sweater on?) or does Rob get a 2nd SD or something else?  

GD = looks like all the guys are on the date (Bill and Dan seen quickly). SCs the guys are looking at Ali and Todd together. Taite's face   It is ALL about Todd on this GD. Osher narrating and talking about a new frontrunner/contender (as we called it from the beginning  ) and Todd is shown and Ali looks smitten. Looks like a photoshoot of some sort and the SC of Taite in the jungle outfit could they match with this GD?






ETA: Season Preview SC of Taite - could he be in this outfit for this GD considering he is barechested in SC above or something else? 

my scs tenplay.com

SCs for Ep7 continued... 


SD/SQT?  The focus is on Todd on GD and based on the clothes being different to GD, he either gets SQT and/or SD.

SD - Todd is due for a SD considering he hasn't had one yet and the Ep7 tv guide says romantic single date. Considering the outfit he is wearing in the SCs below, the setting seems more like SQT or the later part of a SD. 

Outfits 
- Don't match any SCs in preview. Based on the filming schedule, the sports car/disrobe could be in this episode so perhaps they wear different clothes so maybe change later in the day into this? *Edit - see post below for pics from Sports car date)

 


my scs tenplay.com

Ep7 CP - different outfits from above

Todd is wearing a ROSE on his jacket which means he got a rose before the RC (from a date or SQT). 

It could be he has a date/sqt right before the RC (I remember Lee had the same thing and came back to the CP right after his date ended) if he wore similar and had a Cinderella date or just wearing it before the RC as they do.

Sidnote - Todd in motion during this moment is super sexy    The man oozes sex appeal in a non-alpha way and can be vulnerable and so sweet too. Don't think the show has ever had a contestant like him before



my scs tenplay.com

I don’t believe Ali’s shirt in the above couch cap is a match for her shirt in the racing car?  Is that what we are trying to establish?  If it’s the same date?

Sundy wrote:I don’t believe Ali’s shirt in the above couch cap is a match for her shirt in the racing car?  Is that what we are trying to establish?  If it’s the same date?

None of the clothes from Ep 7 preview of Todd or Ali match any of the SCs from the season preview. That's why I'm not sure how it fits with any of the SC: sports car date or Cinderella, etc (fencing they'd get changed so hard to know).

- We know the sports car date was filmed 3 days after Ep6 RC filmed. Usually episodes are 2-4 days of filming. So by elimination = it is likely sports car SD is in Ep7 and the latest it can be is Ep8.

 



SC tenplay.com source bts pics

- Todd in light color pants and dark shirt for his Sportscar date.
Later part of date sleuthed by @Bobette to be indoors at Mosman residence due to matching windows (unless the windows match and for something else definitely seems like it may be part of it). Ali in a tank and Todd out his clothes speculated by @Sundy to possibly be painting. Could be sketching or something else. 

- If any of the SCs (Sports car date/Cinderella/Fencing) are part of this date they'd have to have changed into the clothes after the couch part. Otherwise it's totally different and Todd has the couch time and sports date next week and possibly another date/sqt.

Could the kissing on the couch be SQT after the group photo shoot date? Their clothes could be different as they’d changed out of their costumes. And how many eps do we have until hometowns?

Dirty Street Pie wrote:Could the kissing on the couch be SQT after the group photo shoot date? Their clothes could be different as they’d changed out of their costumes. And how many eps do we have until hometowns?

IA that's one of the options for sure and SQT after the GD. Makes the most sense   

The issue is if Todd gets SQT after the photoshoot GD then does that mean he gets a SD too in the same ep7? It's definitely possible but I don't think it's happened before. So trying to figure out who gets SD in Ep7 if it is not Todd. His Sportscar date has to be in ep7 or 8 because of the filming date so if it is Ep 8 that makes sense it's then and the other SCs (fencing maybe FD, Cinderella part of FD?) 

HTDs are in Ep10 so three episodes left until HTDs. Likely that Ep8 & 9 are 2nd SDs.

Bobette wrote:Just noticing Ali's hair with Todd - it seems to be held back with more than one hair band whereas in the airboating SCs it looks more like a normal single-band ponytail.  

Also I'm thinking airboating would require open, flat water, different to waterfall terrain.  So I'm thinking it could be Taite on the airboat but Todd's waterfall is also in the NT?

Making Todd F2 and leaving Rob in F3, IMO.  I think if Rob were F2 we'd have more SCs of him in varied different locations but all the ones we have of him are urban.








Source: Tenplay season preview

ETA:

AllAboutLove wrote:
Todd is from Perth so the water s/cap could be HTD in Perth considering the color of water and similar to Richie's HTD. It's more hot and heavy though so if not HTD then definitely more FD/F3 or LCD/F2    

My thinking with that is I'd expect them to be focusing more on family/friends and I think Geraldton is beachy so they'd have to go WAY out of his hometown to find a waterfall and I don't see why they'd bother?

I was thinking Todd and Ali's date was somewhere in Katherine...perhaps it could have been at Nitmiluk National Park/ Katherine Gorge. Please see this link and tell me what you think. I feel that the waterfall that appears behind Ali and Todd looks a bit like this one...they have to be very close to the fall and it looks like people can get quite close to the fall in Nitmiluk. Sorry, I don't know how to insert images but perhaps someone can help me? I think the falls are called Jim Jim Falls.

http://www.jimjimfalls.com/how-to-get-to-southern-rockhole.htm

https://www.australia.com/en-ie/places/nt/katherine.html

@Vogue, the waterfall was sleuthed a couple of weeks ago to be Berry Springs.  Upthread here.

Agent99 wrote:

Maybe this?  It doesn't look nearly as glamorous though in the hard light of day Mostly I thought the horizontal rock layers was the same.

https://www.australias.guide/nt/attraction-tour/berry-springs-nature-park/