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Post by stuckinsc Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:49 am

It is nice and sweet that Arie is crushing on Lauren. And had he chosen her everyone would gush. He ruined that by picking Becca instead. Molly got past it and perhaps Lauren will too, but this love story is less gush worthy to me because of Arie and his actions. JMO.
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Post by Chgohighlife Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:52 am

mindless wrote:
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BKay wrote:

No, that isn't what I was trying to say, so I'll try to clarify. In the dating scenarios that Arie's exes provided publicly, Arie was not committed to them and had not implied to them that he was. They hoped he would commit and they invested in a relationship that carried no promises. This is where the fault becomes the woman's, imo. We need to protect ourselves and our emotions first and foremost. Just because a man likes me and enjoys our sex doesn't mean he is in love, so if he gets tired of it and moves on, that doesn't make him a cheater. It makes me a dolt for being too easy to get, and for not being aware of his signals that I guarantee you were there if I had really wanted to know how he felt.

I agree @BKay, 100%. Women have got to stop attributing their own sentiments to men and being gullible and easy to use and cowardly about communication. Arie is no choirboy but he seems fairly straightforward and honest. He sleeps with you and hangs out with you for a year. He never tells you he loves you because HE DOESNT. Neon sign; you’re not invited to be his date at his brother’s wedding. She graduated college, took a gamble, followed Arie to Arizona for his convenient access. She lost.simple as that.  If she had sat him down month three or at any point, I’m pretty sure he would have been honest about his feelings. You can’t trick a man into loving you and you can’t hang around till you grow on him like a fungus. Especially not a man with Arie’s experience. 

No one owes you more respect than you show yourself and loving a man who does not love you never ends well. That’s the unvarnished truth. We all have to understand that and protect our hearts and our spirits. I do not feel sorry for women who lack the courage to look out for themselves.

He may not have told Sydney he loved her, but according to her he introduced her to everyone as his girlfriend, spent on average 4 nights a week with her, spent holidays with her, celebrated their anniversary etc. That is more than just casual dating IMO and doesn't mean he can still go around screwing whoever behind her back and it's somehow her fault for not asking the right questions. Most guys will drop a "clingy" and "controlling" girlfriend in a hot second and make it seem like it's all their fault, so young women are conditioned into acting like the cool girl and going with the flow. She did apparently question him at times about certain things like him never posting pics of her on IG or his relationship with Courtney and he just gave BS excuses. That is not honesty. Even their breakup was triggered by him lying to her about going somewhere with Courtney. Seems the moment she started questioning his lies and giving him attitude, he was out. Which is his prerogative of course, but I thought it was telling that they apparently had a great relationship while she was being easy-going and not really questioning him, and as soon as she did, he dropped her like a hot potato out of the blue. You can say he just realised it wasn't working out, but then when you look at his actions with Becca, it starts to seem like a pattern. He was sneaking Becca off to Arizona and introducing her to his friends practically right after the engagement, yet was done with her a month or so later. Maybe she questioned him as well and he didn't like it. I can see how he'd think Lauren would be easier to handle, if what we've seen of them together so far is anything to go by. I hope she's found her voice by now and asks him some tough questions. All JMOAA.

@mindless,
If your point is Arie is a slimeball, I certainly agree. I’m actually more flustered that this child graduated college and moved her butt to Arie’s town to become his convenience. She’s 23 years old and IMO not smart enough to play games with a 36 year old player. She has no idea what went on. There’s a reason Arie doesn’t date women his age. He’s not into being tied down and/or committed IMO and theoretically a woman with more experience would see that, sooner. I’m betting Becca saw some behaviors not worth quitting her job with a great company and moving across country for. Also, while claiming to be settling into a life as a realtor, it appears to me he’s no longer able to get good sponsorship racing cars so now he’s running all over racing pick up trucks. speechless 

I just can’t say it enough. I wish he had made Bekah M. his F1. She would have durn near killed him by shattering his heart into a zillion pieces and prancing off with a gorgeous 25 year old with money. But alas, like most predators, he ran from the one he could not handle.
Now, we have to see what kind of ring ABC buys him to put through Lauren’s nose. He will propose to her too I’m sure, for the freebie.   JMO

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Post by Mommyof2 Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:56 am

Yep. He made a big mistake. He chose the wrong girl in the end and he will have to deal with the backlash when all is said and done. I'll be curious to see why he let Lauren go at F2. Is it because she wasn't ready for a proposal, ala friend zone for six months?
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Post by Mommyof2 Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:57 am

Lauren is 26. She's hardly a child. laugh out loud
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Post by Maddy Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:29 am

GuardianAngel wrote:Sharleen IMHO is the best recapper, totally unbiased. I tend to always agree with her. She is the only one I enjoy reading, compared to others I ignore, or skim through.
For me Sharleen is the best recapper, I don't read anybody else. I often agree with her, not always, but this season I am with her so far.
and here is the last part:
Sharleen wrote: Finally, as Lauren confides in a producer about how strongly she feels for Arie (which really makes me buy their connection, by the way), there's a rare shot of an ITM (in this case, Tia's) in the background...
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Post by Lucas15 Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:15 am

Maddy wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:Sharleen IMHO is the best recapper, totally unbiased. I tend to always agree with her. She is the only one I enjoy reading, compared to others I ignore, or skim through.
For me Sharleen is the best recapper, I don't read anybody else. I often agree with her, not always, but this season I am with her so far.
and here is the last part:
Sharleen wrote: Finally, as Lauren confides in a producer about how strongly she feels for Arie (which really makes me buy their connection, by the way), there's a rare shot of an ITM (in this case, Tia's) in the background...

I have to admit that Lauren won me over a bit with that slightly unusual footage of her talking to a producer. As I listened to the whole dialog with closed captioning on so I could match exact words it sort of brought into better focus for me that she really cares for Arie a lot more than she's has let on to him. She finds her emotions getting away on her and knows that little things that shouldn't bother her get her p****d off. She also admits that in spite of her known trust issues and 6 month friend zone barrier, she went on the show to have a chance to meet someone she would otherwise never have been able to meet (unless of course she stalked Arie on IG like Sydney did ... [/end snark]) She also said that Arie is her type and she's terrified that he will pick someone else. I sort of wonder just what it would be like to meet someone you wanted to meet and really is "your type" in the context of this show.

So she opened up about her concerns to someone she thought was a friend which brings me back to something Jason once said: "The producers are not your friends; they will pretend to be your friends". Regardless of what anyone might think about Arie's trustworthiness, IMO the producers put Arie to shame in the arena of un-trustworthy and Lauren played right into their hands. IMO this is gonna get used against her.

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Post by Guest Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:14 am

Chgohighlife wrote: Also, while claiming to be settling into a life as a realtor, it appears to me he’s no longer able to get good sponsorship racing cars so now he’s running all over racing pick up trucks. speechless 

He's been racing trucks for 5 years now. The series he is in was started in 2013 by Robby Gordon (who was at the demo derby date) and Arie has been a driver from day 1. I laid it all out in another thread.

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4641p876-bachelor-22-arie-luyendyk-jr-sm-media-sleuthing-spoilers-3#1280590

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4641p876-bachelor-22-arie-luyendyk-jr-sm-media-sleuthing-spoilers-3#1280596

IMO, he does not have the talent his father did which is why he is not racing in a premiere series. Also, he has never raced in the premiere series, only once did he participate in the Indy 500 (he finished 28th after equipment failure). The only way for him to get his racing fix is to race in something like the stadium super trucks. He can't make a living in racing so he has to have something else, i.e. real estate.

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Post by GuardianAngel Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:33 pm

Lucas15 wrote: snipped..
So she opened up about her concerns to someone she thought was a friend which brings me back to something Jason once said: "The producers are not your friends; they will pretend to be your friends". Regardless of what anyone might think about Arie's trustworthiness, IMO the producers put Arie to shame in the arena of un-trustworthy and Lauren played right into their hands. IMO this is gonna get used against her.

I couldn't agree more.

He is IMO obviously chasing her. Usually sleuthing proves whom ever the leads chases is the one they want. He eventually went after her but it's the process in getting there that is the mystery.


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Post by MVMom39forever Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:36 pm

Such a mess ... I just got spoiled and actually am glad. I thought that Lauren was kind of a stiff gal with limited personality. Will be a bit more sympathetic watching these upcoming episodes knowing that she is going to have to deal with a whole lot of messy if she indeed is switched from F2 to F1 at the ATFR.

I was actually hoping she'd be the F1 so that my other favorites (Tia, Bekah, Becca and Kendall in particular) would continue on with the franchise either as 'Ette or BIP or some other show. IMO, Lauren does not have the charisma or personality to continue on Americas' TV screens, which is definitely not a bad thing IRL.

I hope Arie really really loves her like Jason loved MOlly and doesn't return to his Peter Pan ways a month later.
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Post by GuardianAngel Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:55 pm

For those who were unspoiled, a look back when we first got SM of their date on Oct 14/17.


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Source- RS. He also tweeted out two videos

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Post by sanlee088 Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:58 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:For those who were unspoiled, a look back when we first got SM of their date on Oct 14/17.


https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4532-lauren-burnham-sleuthing-spoilers
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Source- RS. He also tweeted out two videos

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Oh look (the second video), proof that she said more than just wow on their date. I wasn’t here for the early sleuthing so thanks GA!
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:03 pm

havadrpepper wrote:
Chgohighlife wrote: Also, while claiming to be settling into a life as a realtor, it appears to me he’s no longer able to get good sponsorship racing cars so now he’s running all over racing pick up trucks. speechless 

He's been racing trucks for 5 years now.  The series he is in was started in 2013 by Robby Gordon (who was at the demo derby date) and Arie has been a driver from day 1.  I laid it all out in another thread.

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4641p876-bachelor-22-arie-luyendyk-jr-sm-media-sleuthing-spoilers-3#1280590

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4641p876-bachelor-22-arie-luyendyk-jr-sm-media-sleuthing-spoilers-3#1280596

IMO, he does not have the talent his father did which is why he is not racing in a premiere series.  Also, he has never raced in the premiere series, only once did he participate in the Indy 500 (he finished 28th after equipment failure).  The only way for him to get his racing fix is to race in something like the stadium super trucks.  He can't make a living in racing so he has to have something else, i.e. real estate.


I like watching truck racing. But agree , he doesn’t have the racing talent his dad did and gets his racing fix with trucks.

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