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Post by SugarAndSpice Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:49 am

Alright folks, after tonights SD with Sophie and Luke, Lukes odds/max loss is starting to look more like a winner. Stand by for intruders though!

Current odds from Sportsbet with max loss accounted for are:
Luke $2.00, max loss $25.00
Jarrod $5.50, max loss $112.50
James $9.00, max loss $200
Apollo $7.50, max loss $162.50

For comparison, after ep3 Laura SD
Laura $1.50, maxloss $25

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Post by Bobette Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:45 pm

SugarAndSpice wrote:Alright folks, after tonights SD with Sophie and Luke, Lukes odds/max loss is starting to look more like a winner. Stand by for intruders though!

Current odds from Sportsbet with max loss accounted for are:
Luke $2.00, max loss $25.00
Jarrod $5.50, max loss $112.50
James $9.00, max loss $200
Apollo $7.50, max loss $162.50

For comparison, after ep3 Laura SD
Laura $1.50, maxloss $25


Thanks @SugarAndSpice. I think Stu might come in around second or third best odds but I can't see anyone knocking Luke off that top spot. Last night's episode convinced me he's F1 but JMO.
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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:51 pm

I haven't had a chance to watch yet but not surprised at all by Luke's odds. To me, the only pattern that still holds true for this show is Ep3 SD which Luke got and which I speculated/sleuthed back in June that he had Ep3 SD and as such would likely be the F1 based on that alone. That's always been *the* F1 indicator for BetteAU to me so unless Luke self-eliminates or Stu comes in with crazy F1-like odds (I highly doubt either one happening at this point), I will stick with Luke for F1 based on Ep3 SD F1-pattern-stat alone and see Sportsbet as supporting that stat pattern Bachelorette Australia - Season 3 - Sophie Monk - Betting Info - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - Page 13 4256136633
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Post by Emayem Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:49 pm

Interesting article with sportsbet claiming that they never know reality tv results. Channel 10 and Warner Bros declined to comment however.

http://tvtonight.com.au/2017/09/can-crew-gamble-online-in-reality-tv-outcomes.html

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Post by Bobette Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:51 pm

Emayem wrote:Interesting article with sportsbet claiming that they never know reality tv results. Channel 10 and Warner Bros declined to comment however.

http://tvtonight.com.au/2017/09/can-crew-gamble-online-in-reality-tv-outcomes.html

hehehe  rofl  cantstopl That's hilarious!!!  

When it comes to Bach/ette they TOTALLY know, IMO.

As for TPTB declining to comment, as the saying goes:
"Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies".
Your silence says it all, Channel 10.
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Post by Bobette Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:00 pm

Emayem wrote:Interesting article with sportsbet claiming that they never know reality tv results. Channel 10 and Warner Bros declined to comment however.

http://tvtonight.com.au/2017/09/can-crew-gamble-online-in-reality-tv-outcomes.html

Full article text:

Can crew gamble online in Reality TV outcomes?

If you are a die-hard fan of Reality TV you can put your money where your finger is and wager a bet on who will win your favourite show. If you’re lucky you might enjoy a small win.

But if you work in Reality Television and you have helped film shows, then your chance of winning increases significantly.

With a few notable exceptions, most Reality TV is not Live, often filmed months in advance. Even in the case of “dual endings” filmed crew know who finalists are. So is it fair that they can win money, and more to the point, are staff given any directives about whether they can or can’t bet on shows they have worked on?

TV Tonight put that question to 3 networks:

Seven Network which produces My Kitchen Rules and House Rules internally said, “We have confidentiality and workplace obligations in place in relation to the production of our television programmes.”

Nine Network said, “There is no formal policy about it.”

Network TEN declined to comment.

Often episodes are delivered relatively late to networks and, to keep their content under wraps sometimes only a handful of staff are given access. But production company crews can be far larger.

ITV Studios Australia who produce I’m A Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, The Voice, Hell’s Kitchen Australia & Cannonball, said, “ITV is aware that some of the reality and entertainment programs it produces are capable of being wagered on. For the majority of those programs, such as The Voice Australia, the voting outcome is revealed Live and can change throughout broadcast. The result is kept strictly confidential, is known by only a small number of key personnel and is subject to internal controls. This can include external audit, as is the case for The Voice Australia. For all of our programs, our staff are subject to policies concerning conflicts of interest and the misuse of confidential information. The identity of the winner or outcome from a series is confidential information. We remind all ITV personnel that such information cannot be disclosed (including publication on social media) and can only be used for the purpose of performing their duties (not for online betting, which would be a clear misuse of confidential company information).”

Warner Bros Television (The Bachelor / The Bachelorette) declined to comment.

Endemol Shine Australia (Australian Survivor, MasterChef Australia, Australian Ninja Warrior, Married at First Sight, Australia’s Next Top Model, The Wall) declined to comment.

And what about betting companies? Are they leaving themselves open to abuse by insiders who may exploit the outcome?

A spokesperson from SportsBet, which has accepted bids on the Academy Awards, Eurovision, The Bachelor & Australian Survivor said it often receives requests for TV show betting.

“All our betting markets on pre-recorded shows come with a disclaimer that the show is pre-recorded and the result may or may not be known in advance.

“Novelty betting is for entertainment purposes and does not allow for large betting stakes associated with sports and racing events.

“Sportsbet is never aware of the result and has seen recently shows where our favourite who was the best backed be beaten (Masterchef, Hell’s Kitchen).”

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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:35 pm

Emayem wrote:Interesting article with sportsbet claiming that they never know reality tv results. Channel 10 and Warner Bros declined to comment however.

http://tvtonight.com.au/2017/09/can-crew-gamble-online-in-reality-tv-outcomes.html
Rolling Eyes The word "know" is just semantics on their part imo and is used to mean that they don't "know" with video footage of the FRC and what airs on TV at the finale (even then though, I think Sportsbet may "know"). Just like Sportsbet, I don't buy when other contestants say they don't "know" who wins... to me, that is just semantics for them saying "look, photos can be photoshopped, rumors can be false etc, so until the finale airs, no one outside of the people there truly "know" who wins"... Yeah right. One thing this show has proven since last year and this year is that a LOT (100s imo) of people know who wins even if they don't "know".

As for Sportsbet, the numbers (esp. max loss) tell me they "know" the endings more often than not.
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Post by Bobette Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:25 am

Adding these for reference pre-intruders: Odds 04/10 5:30 AEST

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Post by SugarAndSpice Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:26 am

Here's hoping the odds get a shake up after tonight!
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Post by SugarAndSpice Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:28 am

Intruders have entered the Bachelorette, and Sportsbets books! And what a shake up!!

Current odds from Sportsbet with max loss accounted for are:
Luke $2.00, max loss $25.00
Jarrod $10.00, max loss $225
James $6.00, max loss $125
Apollo $6.50, max loss $137.50
Stu $4.00, max loss $15

ETA: 10 minutes later - Stu $3.50, max loss $12.50 ...
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Post by Sundy Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:36 am

SugarAndSpice wrote:Intruders have entered the Bachelorette, and Sportsbets books! And what a shake up!!

Current odds from Sportsbet with max loss accounted for are:
Luke $2.00, max loss $25.00
Jarrod $10.00, max loss $225
James $6.00, max loss $125
Apollo $6.50, max loss $137.50
Stu $4.00, max loss $15

ETA: 10 minutes later - Stu $3.50, max loss $12.50 ...

Interesting they must have dofferent odds depending where you are. This is what I get

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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:37 am

Those max losses for Stu got me 2pop
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