BACHELOR 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - Screencaps - **SPOILERS** - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

^AC, you might be right. But, I think that things are reversed possibly.

Could it be that they start inland in Cusco and the FSDs are there? We can only easily identify Macchu Pichu girl, who we think is likely Lauren, though some think it's Kendall. We don't have any more caps of these dates nor do we know hotels.

Then, the F3-F2 RC takes place at Tacama with Arie in his grey suit without a tie.




bug's caps

And then the LCDs happen on the coast with the FRC at Tacama. That would explain him walking over sand dunes in his FRC suit.

AC's cap SC









bug's caps

Though the VO make it seem like the boyfriend returns at the FRC, I think it will proceed normally. I do think that events leading up to it, most likely in Cusco in light of studying the map, will mimic, possibly, Des' season in that he let go of someone that he didn't want to lose.

If my "reverse" theory works, then Kendall would be in the F2, and we'd be guessing the F1 still since we can only really ID Lauren in Cusco and Kendall in Huacachina Sand Dunes. Both of these women are in Cusco but we still don't have the third. We may only have one, actually, if Macchu Picchu girl is proven to be Kendall.

What do you ladies think?

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^ hmmm, @grace8136, didn't you locate this cap (blue suit) to be at Cusco Marriott?
It's confusing if it is because we see Arie in the blue suit at the dunes AND hotel in Cusco. Plus, we see Arie in blue suit fidgeting with the ring...wherever that is.

(grace8136 SC)
Otherwise, @veg_out, you might be unto something-

Thanks, AC. I adjusted my post to put the suit caps together. It doesn't make much sense for Arie to get dressed for his FRC in Cusco, travel 500 miles to walk sand dunes, and then go to wherever to propose unless the FRC is somewhere on the coast. Even still, it just seems strange. It's broad daylight in those pictures, so it's likely before his FRC. Or it's on another day when production took a break. Or we have things out of order.

If I remember correctly, when Frank left Ali, she was so devastated that they had a delay, I think. I can't remember Des' production schedule though I could go look. If something weird goes down, then Arie--and TPTB for that matter--might need a day to collect themselves and the show. Enter Random Walk Along Sand Dune. Now I'm rather confused

veg_out wrote:^AC, you might be right. But, I think that things are reversed possibly.

Could it be that they start inland in Cusco and the FSDs are there? We can only easily identify Macchu Pichu girl, who we think is likely Lauren, though some think it's Kendall. We don't have any more caps of these dates nor do we know hotels.

Then, the F3-F2 RC takes place at Tacama with Arie in his grey suit without a tie.




bug's caps

And then the LCDs happen on the coast with the FRC at Tacama. That would explain him walking over sand dunes in his FRC suit.

AC's cap SC

grace8136 wrote:
JW Marriott El Convento Cusco in Peru. It was converted from an old convent.

My cap source

FRC caps:






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Epi 7 Prevew SCs are up

Happy Sleuthing!  

Thanks LB! Was there anything new in the preview they showed during The Good Doctor?

Based on hair length, I think this is Becca on a FD. Peru-sand dunes

Cropped, lightened from LB S/C source

episode 7
1:1 Becca
1:1 Lauren (again)
1:1 Seinne
3:1 Kendall, Bekah, Tia (No caps for Jacqueline at this location, those crying caps must not end well for her)

Has anyone who got a 1:1, 2 weeks in a row not ended up being the F1? Bekah told Arie she felt jealous of Lauren. Also, she was so shocked when Becca got the rose over Chelsea. Becca, herself seemed shocked. So at that point in time, at least some of the girls didn't see Becca as the front runner.


My cap source

Is this the same fabric/sofa? I can't see the cording/welt on the edge, but that gold pillow may match too. :



LB S/C source

The only copy of another preview that's been posted is from Dreamers.



I haven't made SCs.  Feel free to grab whatever y'all need.  If we get a better quality or something different Ill bring it over.

@grace8136 Those couches do seem to match IMO...and the wall colour looks similar. 

I wonder where that was...LCD? parents? Any ideas? Have we seen anything like that anywhere?

Sprite wrote:@grace8136 Those couches do seem to match IMO...and the wall colour looks similar. 

I wonder where that was...LCD? parents? Any ideas? Have we seen anything like that anywhere?

I can't see any reason for her to be crying like that (full on bawling sound heard in the preview) with the parents. LCD in Cusco would be a more normal size hotel room, FD- maybe, but that doesn't really look like a fantasy suite either. I'm trying to find that tent in the cap above. I'm wondering if they spent the night in one of those luxury type tents and if so that rules out FD too. It looks most like a safe house condo to me, so I think it supports your Mesnick theory.

The edit is showing a problem to resolve with Lauren, not Becca though. IDK, maybe they are showing us that he should have picked Lauren. I remember feeling that in Chris Soules season, that the edit pointed us to who he wanted to pick or should have picked, not who he did. Becca from his season had the obstacles to overcome, not Whitney. The obstacle is different here, but the edit may be similar. If not for Lauren's practically non-existent limo entrance and now these 2 caps, I'd think she was F1. She's the only one I see him chasing now, but maybe Becca's date next week will change that.

@ladybug82 thanks for the preview!!

grace8136 wrote:

Sprite wrote:@grace8136 Those couches do seem to match IMO...and the wall colour looks similar. 

I wonder where that was...LCD? parents? Any ideas? Have we seen anything like that anywhere?

I can't see any reason for her to be crying like that (full on bawling sound heard in the preview) with the parents. LCD in Cusco would be a more normal size hotel room, FD- maybe, but that doesn't really look like a fantasy suite either. I'm trying to find that tent in the cap above. I'm wondering if they spent the night in one of those luxury type tents and if so that rules out FD too. It looks most like a safe house condo to me, so I think it supports your Mesnick theory.

The edit is showing a problem to resolve with Lauren, not Becca though. IDK, maybe they are showing us that he should have picked Lauren. I remember feeling that in Chris Soules season, that the edit pointed us to who he wanted to pick or should have picked, not who he did. Becca from his season had the obstacles to overcome, not Whitney. The obstacle is different here, but the edit may be similar. If not for Lauren's practically non-existent limo entrance and now these 2 caps, I'd think she was F1. She's the only one I see him chasing now, but maybe Becca's date next week will change that.

@ladybug82 thanks for the preview!!

I think this is spot on and seems likely.

grace8136 wrote:

Sprite wrote:@grace8136 Those couches do seem to match IMO...and the wall colour looks similar. 

I wonder where that was...LCD? parents? Any ideas? Have we seen anything like that anywhere?

I can't see any reason for her to be crying like that with the parents. LCD in Cusco would be a more normal size hotel room, FD- maybe, but that doesn't really look like a fantasy suite either. I'm trying to find that tent in the cap above. I'm wondering if they spent the night in one of those luxury type tents and if so that rules out FD too. It looks most like a safe house condo to me, so I think it supports your Mesnick theory.

The edit is showing a problem to resolve with Lauren, not Becca though. IDK, maybe they are showing us that he should have picked Lauren. I remember feeling that in Chris Soules season, that the edit pointed us to who he wanted to pick or should have picked, not who he did. Becca from his season had the obstacles to overcome, not Whitney. The obstacle is different here, but the edit may be similar. If not for Lauren's practically non-existent limo entrance and now these 2 caps, I'd think she was F1. She's the only one I see him chasing now. but maybe Becca's date next week will change that.

@ladybug82 thanks for the preview!!

You are right. It doesn't look like a fantasy suite, but it could still be at her parents house IMO. What if her father was one of those that confronted Arie and got her all upset?

Safe house condo? Now I hadn't thought of that. Have we ever seen one of those filmed for the show? I guess it could be since they are always trying to push things. Maybe showing what leads up to the switcheroo....if there is one....and that does seem to be more and more likely.

Sprite wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

Sprite wrote:@grace8136 Those couches do seem to match IMO...and the wall colour looks similar. 

I wonder where that was...LCD? parents? Any ideas? Have we seen anything like that anywhere?

I can't see any reason for her to be crying like that with the parents. LCD in Cusco would be a more normal size hotel room, FD- maybe, but that doesn't really look like a fantasy suite either. I'm trying to find that tent in the cap above. I'm wondering if they spent the night in one of those luxury type tents and if so that rules out FD too. It looks most like a safe house condo to me, so I think it supports your Mesnick theory.

The edit is showing a problem to resolve with Lauren, not Becca though. IDK, maybe they are showing us that he should have picked Lauren. I remember feeling that in Chris Soules season, that the edit pointed us to who he wanted to pick or should have picked, not who he did. Becca from his season had the obstacles to overcome, not Whitney. The obstacle is different here, but the edit may be similar. If not for Lauren's practically non-existent limo entrance and now these 2 caps, I'd think she was F1. She's the only one I see him chasing now. but maybe Becca's date next week will change that.

@ladybug82 thanks for the preview!!

You are right. It doesn't look like a fantasy suite, but it could still be at her parents house IMO. What if her father was one of those that confronted Arie and got her all upset?

Safe house condo? Now I hadn't thought of that. Have we ever seen one of those filmed for the show? I guess it could be since they are always trying to push things. Maybe showing what leads up to the switcheroo....if there is one....and that does seem to be more and more likely.

@Sprite
By process of elimination on the locations, I thought it might be after the show finished. I wouldn't put it past TPTB to film the break up. I can't come up with another reason for why Becca would be crying so hard. I considered that the boyfriend could be her ex and she's upset about that, but since Arie is sitting there alone, it seems she's upset with him and ran off to cry. He could be breaking up with her at their LCD, but the lead usually goes to the F2's hotel room and that room is too big. It's definitely not his room at the Marrott. I'm going to look a little more for the room, but even the style seems off for what I've seen in Cusco thus far.

Her father died, so I think that's about one of the other girls. She's doesn't seem like an overly emotional person to me, so I don't see her hysterically crying over something else that would happen on the show.

There's a chance TPTB are trying to make it seem like something it's not though. We see her upset, but don't actually see her crying, we can only hear her and I'm not 100% positive it's Becca crying. Did you think it sounded like her? If she's not crying that hard, it could be about something more minor.

@grace8136 Good observations. Yes, I could just see them filming a break up....but that would mean that it has already happened....before the AFTR since it is too early to film that. That would be a first so I could see them wanting to film it. Arie would be even more of a puppet than I thought, if that were true and he went along with it.

I thought it was Becca as well, but like you, I'm not 100% sure. They could certainly edit it to make it seem like something it wasn't. How much family does she have? Maybe it is another male relative...brother, uncle, etc that confronted Arie and she is upset by that? 

I don't know what to think. I just don't see him that invested in anyone to bother to flip, but then I'm finding him incredibly dull. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure the edit is showing a Mesnick coming, so the final should definitely be interesting.