Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 10 FRC - Aug 7 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

sfrank wrote:

sdmom wrote:

Rachelsseason wrote:Did they show Rachel telling Bryan on their FSD that she was in love with him? I didn't see it, but I was doing a bunch of other stuff whilst watching. I only ask because that is what they mention in this interview.
https://youtu.be/lLxPN39Rwrk

Thanks for the link!
She told Bryan, and not peter, she was in love with him on FSD. I guess off camera?
No settling st all, imo.

Wow, Rachel telling Bryan that she was in love with him in FS is a gamechanger, IMO.  He got the validation. It explains a lot.
I can understand now why he was able to watch the scenes with Peter. I think they will be ok.  

I just finished watching this.
I rarely watch this stuff.
IMO I thought it was good.
I did not see Rachel being angry. I saw her being strong and direct. Why is the strong woman always wrong and victimized? Why is the strong women labeled as attacking? The only daggers that I saw coming out were from Peter's own eyes. JMO If looks could kill.
The behavior Peter showed last night was the same behavior pre-show attributed to him to a tee. Unable to commit, manipulative.
I never agree with RS but he hinted the same. Something's rotten in the state of Denmark me thinks. JMO
I can't wait for the chit to hit the fan if he takes the next lead.

sfrank wrote:

sdmom wrote:

Rachelsseason wrote:Did they show Rachel telling Bryan on their FSD that she was in love with him? I didn't see it, but I was doing a bunch of other stuff whilst watching. I only ask because that is what they mention in this interview.
https://youtu.be/lLxPN39Rwrk

Thanks for the link!
She told Bryan, and not peter, she was in love with him on FSD. I guess off camera?
No settling st all, imo.

Wow, Rachel telling Bryan that she was in love with him in FS is a gamechanger, IMO.  He got the validation. It explains a lot.
I can understand now why he was able to watch the scenes with Peter. I think they will be ok.  

This vid says it all. Rachel was direct and straightforward. Like it or not, that's how she is feeling, 6 minutes out of an 8 minutes vid was all about Peter and this was just one of the few I watched today. I give her credit for not flying off the handle.

About Rachel not wanting any of her guys on the next season. She was asked that question when there were still the F3 remaining. She couldn't very well have mentioned any of those guys. Based on previous season's of sleuthing, we always look at who the ette' is promoting, since she has now recently mentioned Alex, I wouldn't be surprised if he's in the mix.

Bryan is cool as a cucumber. His maturity shines through. He speaks well, and IMHO he is very genuine in his feelings for Rachel.

@kashthediva I agree. I don't think she's been angry at all, and the double standards have been irking me. I mean what is she supposed to say there asking her and she answers.

@Kashathediva I agree, Kasha! I was expecting much worse from what people were saying, but I just see a woman who finally realized that she was being played and is frustrated that others don't see that. Kaitlyn making fun of Nick's ring toss was being cruel and petty. Rachel saying that Peter would always manipulate her into having a push and pull relationship, where he would give her just enough to keep her on the hook, but never fully commit? That he didn't belong on a show that requires you to take a leap of faith and fall? That's just being completely honest. I've said the same many times. I don't see why she should be expected to be kind and gracious towards him and forced to lie when he hasn't the done the same for her and her fiancé. The double standard for both of them is so strange to me...like Rachel said, Peter can do no wrong!

And, I never agree with RS either, but he's actually been right on the money this season. He recognized that Eric is a stand-up guy, Dean has been lost for years and it's affected his relationships, and that Bryan has done nothing to deserve the Josh comparisons. He also said that he was told before the AFR that Peter was "Non-committal,” “Emotional,” “Manipulative,” and a “Basket Case". Yup, sounds about right to me. IMO.

Can we really blame Peter for not being ready to propose to someone after only knowing them a couple months? Actually it’s 2.5 months to be more accurate. I think it’s totally normal not to feel ready. And let’s be honest here, the majority of the couples that get engaged end up breaking up after the show (myself included!). I respect his decision to want to save his only first shot at proposing to someone for when he feels it in his bones. Honestly, looking back, I’m kind of disappointed that I got engaged on the show. I knew I didn’t know the guy I picked in the end well enough, but I decided to accept the proposal anyway. And it kind of bums me out that Kevin’s proposal to me wasn’t the only time I said yes to someone. Does that make sense?

Then he needs to stay his butt off this show. It's the same time frame. "If" and that's a big if he's offered the gig then he should turn it down or else he's the hypocrite.

I don't remember Kait making fun of Nick's ring toss but then again it's been 2 years since all her post-show interviews and she moved past Nick and is happily engaged so I hope Rachel can do the same! jmo.

Rachel can't have it both ways, imo. If she told Bryan ily then it shouldn't have mattered if Peter was willing to propose. She was playing him and yes the lead does that but this wasn't necessary if Eric was perfectly willing to propose. She seemed like she was mad that Peter wasn't there all the while knowing she wanted Bryan. So either that's the case or she really was torn. JMO

I'm still in disagreement that Peter didn't have feelings for Rachel or that it was all about being lead. He could have played it much better if that's all it was, imo.

Even though Rachel has made it perfectly CLEAR that she told Bryan she was in love with him during the FS overnight, Peter's fans will STILL insist that it was Peter she was in love with.   It is mind-boggling actually that so many women buy in to what
Peter is selling.      Rachel also made it clear that it was her intent to break it off with Peter that evening, before she even
got to his room.   I guess I'm at a loss that fans would rather insinuate she is a liar, in denial, and was in love with Peter all along, as opposed to seeing the obvious, and beautiful love story that she and Bryan shared.   Such a waste.  

No one is blaming anyone for not being able to do the show by the shows rules.
I don't do DWTS. I don't do America Ninja. I don't do Survivor. I don't do TAR. There are personal reasons for it. Call me crazy.
Not everyone is able to date for 10 weeks-12 weeks and make a lifetime commitment without thinking of it as a "sacrifice". It's crazy. IMO
Same with Peter. If you are PETiocre then don't do The Bachelor. If you have commitment issues don't do TB.

Let me also add ~ am I mistaken... at the F3 RC didn't Rachel make a comment that she hoped they ALL got what they 
came here for.  IMO, implying Peter wanting TB gig?   I know I got online right away, to see if anyone else picked up on it,
but at the time, I didn't see anyone else reference what I felt was a very significant statement.

albean99 wrote:Rachel can't have it both ways, imo. If she told Bryan ily then it shouldn't have mattered if Peter was willing to propose. She was playing him and yes the lead does that but this wasn't necessary if Eric was perfectly willing to propose. She seemed like she was mad that Peter wasn't there all the while knowing she wanted Bryan. So either that's the case or she really was torn. JMO

I'm still in disagreement that Peter didn't have feelings for Rachel or that it was all about being lead. He could have played it much better if that's all it was, imo.

I'm not sure how Peter manipulated her if she went into the LCD ready to break up with him. She should have immediately been honest and upfront that she already told Bryan that she was in love with him. You're right....she can't have it both ways. JMO.

Rachel wouldn't be the first lead to rewrite history once they pick someone. I never believe them when they say it was always their f1 from early on. To me it just makes Rachel look worse if she really did tell Bryan she loved him in the FS.