Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - ScreenCaps - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - Discussion #2

But wasn't it sleuthed that she is walking to and from Peter's hotel?  Is the FS suite in Peter's hotel as well?  This could be possible too right?:  Rachel and Peter do the FS, so she can ask her long list of questions. The next day, she has the FD with Bryan. Then she has a day to think before the F3 RC, she goes to see Peter the night before to get it straight one more time and that's when all the crying takes place.  I still find it odd that she doesn't cut him right then, but waits until the F3 RC.  

The most straightforward I guess is that the chapel date is Peter's LCD, and all the crying with Peter also upsets Bryan, who is feeling unloved. So she then has to explain to Bryan and that's why he tells her he has given it his all, after he feels she may choose Peter. But ultimately, she lets Peter go before the FRC, and Bryan is the only one at the FRC at that point.  I just don't like this because she gave Peter way too many chances, and this makes Bryan seem default, same as Chris Soules' season. I hate that so much!

SFoster wrote:But wasn't it sleuthed that she is walking to and from Peter's hotel?  Is the FS suite in Peter's hotel as well?  This could be possible too right?:  Rachel and Peter do the FS, so she can ask her long list of questions. The next day, she has the FD with Bryan. Then she has a day to think before the F3 RC, she goes to see Peter the night before to get it straight one more time and that's when all the crying takes place.  I still find it odd that she doesn't cut him right then, but waits until the F3 RC.  

The most straightforward I guess is that the chapel date is Peter's LCD, and all the crying with Peter also upsets Bryan, who is feeling unloved. So she then has to explain to Bryan and that's why he tells her he has given it her all, after he feels she may choose Peter. But ultimately, she lets Peter go before the FRC, and Bryan is the only one at the FRC at that point.  I just don't like this because she gave Peter way too many chances, and this makes Bryan seem default, same as Chris Soules' season. I hate that so much!

You know what I'm thinking she doesn't eliminate anyone at the F3 RC. I just got through watching her "WYATR" interview and she said that everyone will see she took her time. I read the episode description for Monday's show and it focus on the three remaining men. Taking three men to final has definitely never happen. Like I keep saying, it's strange to take a F3 RC to the finale but that would explain why.

SFoster wrote:But wasn't it sleuthed that she is walking to and from Peter's hotel?  Is the FS suite in Peter's hotel as well?  This could be possible too right?:  Rachel and Peter do the FS, so she can ask her long list of questions. The next day, she has the FD with Bryan. Then she has a day to think before the F3 RC, she goes to see Peter the night before to get it straight one more time and that's when all the crying takes place.  I still find it odd that she doesn't cut him right then, but waits until the F3 RC.  

The most straightforward I guess is that the chapel date is Peter's LCD, and all the crying with Peter also upsets Bryan, who is feeling unloved. So she then has to explain to Bryan and that's why he tells her he has given it his all, after he feels she may choose Peter. But ultimately, she lets Peter go before the FRC, and Bryan is the only one at the FRC at that point.  I just don't like this because she gave Peter way too many chances, and this makes Bryan seem default, same as Chris Soules' season. I hate that so much!

IMO the walking to and from Peter's hotel room will take place during the last episode during the LCD portion. The FS will not be at that hotel, the Posada, but will be at the same hotel that Eric had his at, the Hotel Viura, where Rachel is staying at. This will also be where Bryan eventually will have his at, the hotel Viura.

@pbmax wow, that is something that never occurred to me! That would be a first!

Maybe so! I can see it actually, maybe that is her way of giving Peter another chance, without cutting either of the two who are surely going to propose. I mean, she has her two guys who will propose, I say dump Peter. This just makes Eric and Bryan feel like she wants Peter big time, because Eric and Bryan both know that Peter is not ready to propose, remember their discussion during Peter's MTP? And Eric wonders what is his protocol for continuing to move forward? And then Peter, goes NO I didn't ask her parents for a blessing (like no way in hell, that was hilarious), I just asked them if I could continue to date their daughter. (that has to be the funniest thing he has said all season!!) That seems so unfair to me. She has given Peter so many chances, and I don't even see what is so great about him. ugh

@pbmax, not making a cut from F3 to F2 would certainly be "something that's never been done before." Isn't that what she's said several times in interviews?

@Kashathediva - Thanks! I didn't think Peter's FS would be in his hotel, and we see her walking to and from his hotel.

I also think that since the hotel Viura is about 3 hours from San Vicente de la Sonsierra where the FRC will take place, Rachel will move camp closer to the vicinity of San Vicente de la Sonsierra following FD so will be on the look out for a new hotel in the previews. Currently the hotel Posada is 3 hours(Peter's hotel) away to the north east and Bryan's hotel Agustino is about 15 minutes due north west slightly.  Sorry guys I did not figure out where Eric is in relation because I really do think he is going F3, even though I do truly like him. I do I really do.

SFoster wrote:But wasn't it sleuthed that she is walking to and from Peter's hotel?  Is the FS suite in Peter's hotel as well?  This could be possible too right?:  Rachel and Peter do the FS, so she can ask her long list of questions. The next day, she has the FD with Bryan. Then she has a day to think before the F3 RC, she goes to see Peter the night before to get it straight one more time and that's when all the crying takes place.  I still find it odd that she doesn't cut him right then, but waits until the F3 RC.  

The most straightforward I guess is that the chapel date is Peter's LCD, and all the crying with Peter also upsets Bryan, who is feeling unloved. So she then has to explain to Bryan and that's why he tells her he has given it her all, after he feels she may choose Peter. But ultimately, she lets Peter go before the FRC, and Bryan is the only one at the FRC at that point.  I just don't like this because she gave Peter way too many chances, and this makes Bryan seem default, same as Chris Soules' season. I hate that so much!

yes it was sleuted she came in and out... but not WHEN, except at night.
we see her 3 times with no make up: umbrella, yellow/white wall and PI... and I think the same grey cardigan and necklade

I think we do mix up both dates and that is what confuse us

Eric: F3 date

Peter: winery, stomping grapes
peter: 2 glasses of wine + wine (which for me goes logically with the night portion of the winery.
peter: chapel.... which could be the same day of the winery OR fantasy last date
peter: crying on the floor

bryan: winery
bryan: air balloon
bryan: 2 glasses + champagne (which could be also the same night of the winery date
bryan: upset

rachel: coming in and out of peter's hotel (umbrella, night, raining, no make up)
rachel: PI grey sweater, no make up talking about how harder it was to let X go (was it eric or was it peter?)
rachel: crying with a white/yellowish with her shadow, no make up (shadows like peter's room... see SC I shared)

F3 ceremony where she clearly say she does not want a boybriend.

Rachel also mentioned that something happened that was never done before.


those are what we know. CMIIAW
so all 3 dates ended with a fantasy key. That she spent the night with Peter is yet to be seen as well as Bryan. Eric we know (at  least crew made a good job to make us believe it).
if she let go of eric and peter at F3, the crying bucket does not fit. so he stayed somehow

the logical scenario is that the same night of the ceremony she decided to let go peter and it turned into a drama. he was already staying in the fantasy suite. to set up wine and glasses from crew was easy. So no date. and the chapel was part of the winery (since eric got the monastary on top of the hill and bryan will have the other monastary on top of the hill, it is logical to say that peter got a church or something similar as well).

so peter was let go, following day, exhausted, she visited bryan... same setting, easy to bring champagne. explain that she is doubting blah blah blah (I strongly believe that peter will have a change of mind and tell her that he cares but is not in love.. therefore her love for bryan will be questioned and doubted)

that is the only scenario that makes sense to me.....

I can't shake the fact that they took the F3 RC to the finale. There is a sc of Eric and Rachel hugging behind a cracked big door, I thought it might be her saying goodbye at the F3 RC because Eric has on a blue jacket but Rachel doesn't have on the red outfit and I can't place it anywhere else. There's also a sc of just Rachel face with tears and it looks to me to be the same as the F3 RC because of the makeup and hair but you can tell it's inside.

Eric's hotel is pretty far away from the other 3- in San Sebastian, north on the water and close to the border of France. His FD was further west  but also close to the ocean.

pbmax wrote:I can't shake the fact that they took the F3 RC to the finale. There is a sc of Eric and Rachel hugging behind a cracked big door, I thought it might be her saying goodbye at the F3 RC because Eric has on a blue jacket but Rachel doesn't have on the red outfit and I can't place it anywhere else. There's also a sc of just Rachel face with tears and it looks to me to be the same as the F3 RC because of the makeup and hair but you can tell it's inside.

I was told it was in the 3-1 in switzerland

Was the sc of Eric and Rachel hugging after she let Adam go? They stand there and hug for quite a while, and that scene is at the beginning of the preview for the rest of the season.