Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 9 - July 24 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Amethyst wrote:

djogbenyuie wrote:She loves his confidence, his good heart, the fact that he is focused on their relationship and accept her with her flaws. The fact that he is strong for both of them in the process....
The second 1o1 is full of why she is invested in Bryan, plus the convo with his mother

I hope (for Rachel's sake) that he has a good heart, but I'm not convinced of it as you are. Time will tell.

Amethyst wrote:Given that the lead will almost never pick whom I would pick anyway, this is what I look for --

1. That the lead picks a good, decent person. Given my reservations about Bryan, in this case I just hope that Rachel is seeing lots of good qualities in him that have somehow eluded me as a viewer.

2. That there is a love story. I think we have seen that here, give or take. I am going to hope for Rachel's sake that Bryan has been completely sincere with her.

3. And mostly, that I understand WHY the lead chose as s/he did, especially for the F4, and most especially for the F1. Sometimes I totally get it (i.e. Ben H.'s picks) and sometimes not. While I haven't always understood her decisions, Rachel, I think, has made it very clear about what she finds attractive in Bryan. She likes his looks, and finds him sexy. They are very companionable. They have fun together. She *loves* that fact that he is very ardent and assertive in his approach to her. She loves the fact that he very much wants her and is all in.

HEA wrote:

djogbenyuie wrote:That last GiF :shocked!:
Just like when she was reaching for their first kiss.
Sorry but I don't buy that he was falling for her.
Nothing wrong with that but it's just sad when viewers (including some bach nation people) say they are having true love and Rachel will screw up because of engagement issue.

agree.
this is exactly what he did ALL SEASON.
this guy was never into her. that is my conclusion from day1.
as a woman, seeing this makes me cringe SO much . oh dear
a kiss............ she asked for a kiss goodbye and he still stand away from her waiting for her to make a move??????? gezzzzzzzzzzzz

djogbenyuie wrote:

Amethyst wrote:

djogbenyuie wrote:She loves his confidence, his good heart, the fact that he is focused on their relationship and accept her with her flaws. The fact that he is strong for both of them in the process....
The second 1o1 is full of why she is invested in Bryan, plus the convo with his mother

I hope(for Rachel's sake) that he has a good heart, but I'm not convinced of it as you are. Time will tell.

Those were Rachel words and I believe her since I don't know the guy and never will.
The only thing I can relate to as a viewer and that give me the sense that he is sincere is that he always act on what he says. For me actions matching words are a good indication that those words are not just lines.
All in all I also hope they nake it and imo they have a better chance at making it than she has with Eric or Peter.
And it has not to do with the guys themselves (dont know them) but them and Rach together (from what I see in my

Rolly wrote:

HEA wrote:

djogbenyuie wrote:That last GiF :shocked!:
Just like when she was reaching for their first kiss.
Sorry but I don't buy that he was falling for her.
Nothing wrong with that but it's just sad when viewers (including some bach nation people) say they are having true love and Rachel will screw up because of engagement issue.

agree.
this is exactly what he did ALL SEASON.
this guy was never into her. that is my conclusion from day1.
as a woman, seeing this makes me cringe SO much . oh dear
a kiss............ she asked for a kiss goodbye and he still stand away from her waiting for her to make a move??????? gezzzzzzzzzzzz

Gosh do we just look at these clips and see what we want to see? I mean all of us.....I see this like their first 1:1 with his arms wrapped behind her back seems to me like he's pulling her in close. They both seem into each other and I love the way he looks at her. Maybe everyone just has their own preferences for showing love and affection. Peter to me is soft and sensual.... I don't like a tongue crammed down my throat with every kiss. Maybe bc Peter is more reserved when he shows affection it's more meaningful. JMO.

When there are scenes that don't fully make sense I remind myself that we see so little of the conversations they have. Like the comments Peter made about leaning in when they were kissing each other or him saying he kind of thought so when Rachel said she was falling in love too. I just felt like we were missing a part of the conversation that would help explain where the comments came from. JMO.

Does anyone remember what episode it was the Rachel said Bryan sees and accepts her flaws? That made me scratch my head at the time, because we saw nothing like that up until that point. She also said she's never been with someone that makes her feel like he's all in. If anyone remembers when these things happened, that would be great. I recall she was crying and emotional in those talking heads, and it didn't match up to what was happening in the scenes. I'd like to watch it again and see if those are from her back and forth struggle with the two guys in the finale.

pbmax wrote:

Amethyst wrote:Given that the lead will almost never pick whom I would pick anyway, this is what I look for --

1. That the lead picks a good, decent person. Given my reservations about Bryan, in this case I just hope that Rachel is seeing lots of good qualities in him that have somehow eluded me as a viewer.

2. That there is a love story. I think we have seen that here, give or take. I am going to hope for Rachel's sake that Bryan has been completely sincere with her.

3. And mostly, that I understand WHY the lead chose as s/he did, especially for the F4, and most especially for the F1. Sometimes I totally get it (i.e. Ben H.'s picks) and sometimes not. While I haven't always understood her decisions, Rachel, I think, has made it very clear about what she finds attractive in Bryan. She likes his looks, and finds him sexy. They are very companionable. They have fun together. She *loves* that fact that he is very ardent and assertive in his approach to her. She loves the fact that he very much wants her and is all in.

I know we all see different things on this show and I try to look pass their sneaky editing, but if you look at his face, his eyes, to me you see more of the person.  I see a genuine,  sweet,  caring person with good qualities. Especially during the MTP, I believe I saw a person I really like. If Rachel wants a oval ring and that's what she gets. ..I'm just so jealous of her, you go blessed girl. Everybody got flaws and a past and if we go by that then no one is gonna make, we all are doom. There are no perfect relationships or marriages out there.

Ilovepeter wrote:Does anyone remember what episode it was the Rachel said Bryan sees and accepts her flaws? That made me scratch my head at the time, because we saw nothing like that up until that point. She also said she's never been with someone that makes her feel like he's all in. If anyone remembers when these things happened, that would be great. I recall she was crying and emotional in those talking heads, and it didn't match up to what was happening in the scenes.  I'd like to watch it again and see if those are from her back and forth struggle with the two guys in the finale.

I believe she was very tempted by Peter otherwise she wouldn't have been such a mess at the end. She's isn't desperate for money, so I also don't believe that she tried to pull an engagement out of both of her F2s for the bonus. I don't believe she knew it was Bryan from the first night. JMO.

I have accepted that Rachel has chosen Bryan and I'm genuinely happy for her because she is so happy. But I am deeply disappointed that she's blabbed to everyone, including this board, that she's with Bryan. Why would she tell her little Bachelor friends, all of whom are dying to be on TV and have the biggest chance of a slipping up? I'm not impressed with her ability to keep up the confidentiality portion of her contract given what she does for a living. JMO