Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

emusha wrote:@julychild I really appreciated both their courage to admit that to each other and Rachel's appreciation of it...she was positively giddy at seeing that he works to be self-aware... I really loved how that sets the stage for two imperfect people who need to work on themselves to do well in their relationship...I found the implicit admission of imperfection vulnerable, endearing and a foundation for something so deep and mature like we've never seen on this show before (a show fully focused on infatuation love imo)

So we'll said. Watching their date was like watching two adults on a date imo. Two freaking grownups with such a special connection to boot imo.

I loved their adorable gap teeth talk too and Rachel softly saying it adds "character" to her. She's such a different girl with Peter and it's so fun to watch this whole other side emerge.

@Alanna I think people feel as though their was no chemistry simply because the realism (at least on Peter's behalf) was such a departure from what this show usually shows. This is real life in a reality TV show. All JMO

@Alanna so true it's one of the most adult and real convos we've heard during a dinner on this show -- totally reminds me of JAsh

Mia_Leoni wrote:If two accomplished, seemingly put-together people admit to going to relationship therapy, IMO that is the perfect endorsement for relationship therapy.

And if they end with a successful relationship?! What an awesome public plug.

I also went to see a therapist to help get over a relationship and my only regret is that I waited so long. Talking about it with someone who is professionally trained to help is so much different than a friend saying the things you expect friends to say about your ex. I mean supportive friends are great but they can't be expected to have the same tools as an expert. (In my case it REALLY didn't help my friends were saying things like "You will get back together, you two are meant to be." GAAAAAAAAAH. Don't say that to a friend even if you think it's true, it makes letting go harder.)

There was a nice call out to the show on HuffPo about this issue:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-bachelorette-peter-rachel-therapy-talk-ftw_us_592d96b8e4b053f2d2ae618d?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

I am really enjoying Rachel as the lead guys. I was not a big fan of hers during TB, and even less after Nick's season ended. But I have been pleasantly surprised! She is totally bad azz & great at relating to the guys, plus how strongly she commands a room!
Great chemistry with Peter! Peter's voice is beyond sexy!!! He has this gentle & calm aura to him that I like tons, plus he says so much with his eyes. If he is 1F I'd be very happy for Rachel.
Agree with so many about Kenny... such a gentle big bear, so sweet and so caring!!
Dean is very dreamy and I need to see more of him to have a better opinion. Good kisser
Bryan is gorgeous but a bit too aggressive for me. As a true blue Latina girl, I can assure you that not all Latino men kiss like that! haha!! I do like his maturity and how established he is... I am sure he will be considered for TB
Never liked Demario... from the ATFR show and the first epi, something I did not like him... "Who is this?" was a "plop" moment for me!! Fell out of my chair, pretty much!
Lucas needs to go STAT, and so does drummer boy!! Can't stand either.
Love Josiah... really do! I would love for him as the next TB, there is a good story behind him. He is a total package for me.
Loved seeing my faves Ashton & Mila (Jared is on cloud 9 at his mentioned by them, haha!!)
K Abdul Jamar!! Awww what a star he was and is! Really loved seeing him on this episode!! Greatness!!
I saw other great looking & nice guys on this group date, but did not know who they were? Have to go & check the contestants thread!!
Eric is too young to me, do not like him much...

I can't believe the sad news about Michael Nance! I always liked him and followed him since his season May he Rest In Paradise xo

see2love wrote:I think Bryan is what Rachel had in her as her ideal guy( older, has successful career, chemistry, banter and he is also a take charge kinda guy which she had repeatedly said attracts her hence the sweep ff the feet kiss). I think Peter is the nice surprise she wasnt expecting to fall for, afterall he is a laid back guy. CH said Rachel likes to plan things and be in control and it must have been familiar to like Bryan and go with all the feelings he was evoking in her as her ideal guy.
But I think every time she spends with Peter pulls her from Bryan. She said it was a struggle and she kept going back and forth but she fell in love with her man just as America will. She must have had no control and given up control to allow her feelings for Peter to take over. A voice over "i am justgoing to let myself fall" must be when she realised she wasnt going to try to control anything anymore.
I believe she is really into Bryan right now and also Peter. I cant wait to see how it all plays out and isnt that what she wants us all to see? Watch how it all plays out she says.....IMO

well said, I believe it too!

Hello there, now that I go back and look at the Ellen episode...Rachel says that the guy initiated the kiss but Peter did not initiate the kiss so obviously she is talking about Bryan. IMO

@Jmack pretty sure that Peter actually initiated the kiss by pulling her to him (check his hands on her back and her hands moving abruptly from his forearm to his upper arm as he pulls her in to him)
I do think she's referring to the kiss with Bryan though cos she described it as "unexpected" that means that the kiss itself was something she was not at all anticipating which imo doesn't make sense with peter and the fact that  she'd just giving him a rose and it would be natural to kiss after giving the rose.

Hey y'all, coming over to the spoiled side. Rachel and Peter had one of the best 1:1 dates ever. It was a glitzed up real life date. Many cities have Barkfests and the whole thing felt like watching two real people on a date. No fake adrenaline or anything else to forge a connection, just two people who are getting to know each other and liking what they see. I personally enjoyed Peter giving her sweet touches without sucking her face off too soon. I see a sweet passion and a genuine like that can grow. I like Bryan too, but he is all hot swagger, two great men treating all of this completely differently. I am excited to see these live stories grow. I said this with Andi, but a strong relationship with F2 and the lead still picking F1 to me means that the person chose what they really wanted, because they had to give up something great to have it. All JMO.

@stuckinsc Welcome to the dark side check the other threads out especially the fan and the Peter thread but then again Peter is now on his #3 thread. You have a lot of reading to do.

Hi @stuckinsc Welcome! Though, I gotta say that I really enjoyed reading your (and your fellow unsullied's) thoughts and sleuthing over on the unspoiled side And I agree with what you've said. Their 1-on-1 was the best that I've seen in the history of the franchise--from their topics of conversation to the ease and chemistry that flowed between them. I'm truly excited to see how it all plays out onscreen because I do enjoy the show more when the lead struggles to choose between their F2. And in this case, there's a really interesting narrative arcs being set up between Bryan and Peter--they are two such different personalities! I noticed that when Peter got his date card, the camera kept closing in on Bryan's face. Can't wait to see it all unfold.

I am not much of a sleuther, so I wasn't adding much to the unspoiled side. The rest of the ladies are doing a fantastic job.