Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #5

GuardianAngel wrote:

Lara wrote:snipped..

Exactly...which is why Rachel is so different, IMO! She's been kind to everyone, including the less popular girls in the house, Vanessa's two best friends, and random crew members and extras on the group dates (who have posted in the Rose Buddies FB group and on IG about how incredibly kind and sweet she was). She has no use for those people, yet that doesn't change how she treats them. No one is saying Rachel is perfect, but I just haven't seen any firsthand accounts of people saying that Rachel treated them badly in any way. Whereas I've heard quite a few of them regarding Andi (and a certain ex-Bachelor, but that's neither here nor there). IMO.

Rachel hasn't been kind to everyone imo. Belittling someone's character and stating she is going on to better things, being caught on live IG story saying she did not like V, laughing, suttle shade towards Vanessa, not including V in congrat's to Nick, she's friends with a group of contestants who enjoyed posting on SM, yelling we love you Raven, and at the same time making fun of Nick's father crying, Alexis, fake crying making fun of him, posting a pic of him on tv while it was airing, posting a pic of a man's genitals over Nick's face with an arrow pointing to him, and more examples than I care to think about is not being kind to everyone. At the time it's like Rachel the popular high school girl, giving orders to her minions, all the while she was supporting them but mentioning how close she is to them.

Her squad is fawning all over her because IMO this gives them exposure. Lets see how loving and adoring they are when the next season starts.

Andi was adored by many of her fans. Andi also felt it was ok not to mince with words. IA that's a good trait to have, although there's a way to do it and and way not to do it. You don't have to knock people down to try and make yourself look good. Being rude and knocking people down IMO is not good thing and Rachel's 7, is it more now? have proven that's they way they roll.

Even after a brutal hockey game, bloody noses and stitches, they line up, shake hands, and wish the losing team well.

Sprite wrote:

realitytvfan11 wrote:@Coolangel @sprite Maybe I wasn't clear, but my point was that she is gracious to women who are not in her squad. Danielle M., Danielle L., Jaimi, Dominique, Taylor, Lacey, both Elizabeths aren't getting onto the show or getting Instagram sponsorships because of their association with Rachel, yet they do it anyways. That, IMO, speaks to them genuinely wanting to support Rachel because they genuinely like her as a person. Not to mention Corinne, who has a greater following than Rachel and doesn't need to attach herself to Rachel in order to be popular.

I'm not saying that some or all of them don't truly like her, but that doesn't mean their motives are all pure. I also keep in mind that none of those people was a threat to her on the show or crossed her.

I look at the overall picture. I know it may seem like I don't like Rachel, but that is not the case. She has many good points, but I am also aware of several things she has done...post show...that I didn't care for and those are the things that make me go hmmm. I will keep them in mind for the future to see if I am correct or incorrect in my evaluation of Rachel. Right now I'm still Switzerland.

Lara wrote:

Sprite wrote:

realitytvfan11 wrote:@Coolangel @sprite Maybe I wasn't clear, but my point was that she is gracious to women who are not in her squad. Danielle M., Danielle L., Jaimi, Dominique, Taylor, Lacey, both Elizabeths aren't getting onto the show or getting Instagram sponsorships because of their association with Rachel, yet they do it anyways. That, IMO, speaks to them genuinely wanting to support Rachel because they genuinely like her as a person. Not to mention Corinne, who has a greater following than Rachel and doesn't need to attach herself to Rachel in order to be popular.

I'm not saying that some or all of them don't truly like her, but that doesn't mean their motives are all pure. I also keep in mind that none of those people was a threat to her on the show or crossed her.

I look at the overall picture. I know it may seem like I don't like Rachel, but that is not the case. She has many good points, but I am also aware of several things she has done...post show...that I didn't care for and those are the things that make me go hmmm. I will keep them in mind for the future to see if I am correct or incorrect in my evaluation of Rachel. Right now I'm still Switzerland.

I don't see how Raven and Corinne weren't threats to her. Raven had already met Nick's parents at week 4, essentially confirming she was a frontrunner, and everyone has said that Corinne/Nick's connection was obvious in the house. And Mills has said that Kristina would have likely been the Bachelorette if Rachel wasn't, so there's another threat to her when it comes to being the Bachelorette and I'm sure she sensed that given her backstory and popularity in the house. Again, I remind people that the reason Raven said they were all team Rachel was because Rachel *wasn't* the typical competitive female they were used to and that she saw the beauty in all. She was surrounded by beautiful women, who were her competition, and she got along with everyone except one. And that one person had issues with many people. IMO.

mercieme wrote:@Dare2b... love your post because it articulates the wonderful back & forth that takes place season after season on the forum IMO. The last TB is beloved by many on this forum IMO & any criticism by non-admirers are met with justification as to how the criticisms are un-warranted (within the rules of course).  Now we have a case where the current Bette is also beloved by many & the cycle continues....just par for the course on the forum IMHO. And I say this as someone that has nothing against any of these contestants; the banter is all good though because it's boring IMO if we all see or feel the same way

umngirl wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

umngirl wrote:I don't know if anyone else loves numbers and stats as much as me, but this is great.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-bachelorette/

I started reading it but it made my brain hurt

Lol. It's definitely a lot. I hope they do a bunch of statistical analysis on this season. #NerdAlert

reason wrote:@Carine Thanks she look hot and sexy.

@Lara the one she would not get along with was the one who was carrying stories behind her back to the lead.  Everyone else that was there said when they had problems she comfort them, and saw the beauty in everyone and acknowledge it. When she gave Raven the compliment in that video it speaks volumes why they love her to me IMHO You could visible see Raven starting to tear up.  She acknowledges them for who they are, which sometimes are rear to find in people. IMHO